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2004-07-05 by adolphamster
I have written about this previously; I must be doing something wrong. I've followed Paul Roark's very carefully but keep getting only sepia toned prints. I'm using Paint Shop with a 1280 printer. Without the curve corrections I get a very good black print. I wonder if anyone else has had this problem - and if it was corrected, I'd appreciate knowing how.
2004-07-05 by Paul Roark
The curves are not compatible with Paint Shop. Photoshop Picture Window are the only programs I know of that can directly use the curves. Photoshop Elements can us the curves if they are first put onto an adjustment layer. At one point someone on the list did figure out a way to use the curves in Paint Shop, but since I didn't have the program, I don't remember what was done. Paul www.PaulRoark.com For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see: http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ ___________________________________
-----Original Message----- From: adolphamster [mailto:dolph@...] Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 9:00 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] MIS Eboni inks and UT80 curves I have written about this previously; I must be doing something wrong. I've followed Paul Roark's very carefully but keep getting only sepia toned prints. I'm using Paint Shop with a 1280 printer. Without the curve corrections I get a very good black print. I wonder if anyone else has had this problem - and if it was corrected, I'd appreciate knowing how. Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
2004-07-06 by adolphamster
Paul, Thanks for your response. You must be kept very busy answering emails - do you ever get a chance to "do your own work"? I've seen some of your images on your web page and am very impressed. Re your response: I seem to be able to get the curves working in PSP there is a "converter" that allows me to do that. At least clicking on the appropriate curve in the "Curves" window does something - and FWIW - I get essentially the same results when I use Picture Window. I'd be pleased to send you a copy of my "purge" printout if you send me your mailing address. Alternatively, you can mail me at: A. B. Amster 1418 Sydnor Ave Ridgecrest, CA 93555 I suppose it's always possible there was a bad batch of inks in the cartridges. Thanks again. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > The curves are not compatible with Paint Shop. Photoshop Picture Window are > the only programs I know of that can directly use the curves. Photoshop > Elements can us the curves if they are first put onto an adjustment layer. > At one point someone on the list did figure out a way to use the curves in > Paint Shop, but since I didn't have the program, I don't remember what was > done. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see: > http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ > > ___________________________________ > > -----Original Message----- > From: adolphamster [mailto:dolph@m...] > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 9:00 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] MIS Eboni inks and UT80 curves > > I have written about this previously; I must be doing something wrong. > I've followed Paul Roark's very carefully but keep getting only sepia
> toned prints. I'm using Paint Shop with a 1280 printer. Without the > curve corrections I get a very good black print. I wonder if anyone > else has had this problem - and if it was corrected, I'd appreciate > knowing how. > > > >
2004-07-06 by Paul Roark
I'll send some scans of UT2 purge patterns off list, and that should be enough to let you tell whether the inks are right. However, be sure you are using the right curves. In past e-mails you've said you are using UT2 inks. The "Subject" line of the e-mail suggests you are using the UT80 curves. Those are for the UT1 inkset and will now work with the UT2 inkset. The curves you want all begin with, "UT2 ..." Paul www.PaulRoark.com For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see: http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ _____________________________________
-----Original Message----- From: adolphamster [mailto:dolph@...] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 7:39 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] MIS Eboni inks and UT80 curves Paul, Thanks for your response. You must be kept very busy answering emails - do you ever get a chance to "do your own work"? I've seen some of your images on your web page and am very impressed. Re your response: I seem to be able to get the curves working in PSP there is a "converter" that allows me to do that. At least clicking on the appropriate curve in the "Curves" window does something - and FWIW - I get essentially the same results when I use Picture Window. I'd be pleased to send you a copy of my "purge" printout if you send me your mailing address. Alternatively, you can mail me at: A. B. Amster 1418 Sydnor Ave Ridgecrest, CA 93555 I suppose it's always possible there was a bad batch of inks in the cartridges. Thanks again. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > The curves are not compatible with Paint Shop. Photoshop Picture Window are > the only programs I know of that can directly use the curves. Photoshop > Elements can us the curves if they are first put onto an adjustment layer. > At one point someone on the list did figure out a way to use the curves in > Paint Shop, but since I didn't have the program, I don't remember what was > done. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see: > http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ > > ___________________________________ > > -----Original Message----- > From: adolphamster [mailto:dolph@m...] > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 9:00 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] MIS Eboni inks and UT80 curves > > I have written about this previously; I must be doing something wrong. > I've followed Paul Roark's very carefully but keep getting only sepia > toned prints. I'm using Paint Shop with a 1280 printer. Without the > curve corrections I get a very good black print. I wonder if anyone > else has had this problem - and if it was corrected, I'd appreciate > knowing how. > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links