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2004-07-16 by borgida
Hello I am interesed in possibly using the PremierArt Print Shield Spray. I use Photorag and William Turner paper with the MIS UT2 inks. Is the PremierArt Print Shield spray used with the Photorag and William Turner Inks? When do you apply the spray to the paper - before or after printing? Does the spray provide a higher DMAX or is the spray only used for greater archivability? Thanks for all responses in advance. Regards Ross
2004-07-16 by Steve Kale
Ross You will find that the spray will reduce dMax on Matt papers (and shift the other steps as well). Paul Roark as recommended using Lascaux Fixative on matt papers rather than PremierArt Print Shield/Lyson Print Guard (same product). It does not affect dMax to a significant degree. I just got some but have noticed that it doesn¹t seem to provide the same degree of protection as Lyson Print Guard but I have not tested this extensively yet. You spray once the print is dry. Regards Steve
From: "borgida" <borgida@...> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:07:32 -0000 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] PremierArt Print Shield Spray Hello I am interesed in possibly using the PremierArt Print Shield Spray. I use Photorag and William Turner paper with the MIS UT2 inks. Is the PremierArt Print Shield spray used with the Photorag and William Turner Inks? When do you apply the spray to the paper - before or after printing? Does the spray provide a higher DMAX or is the spray only used for greater archivability? Thanks for all responses in advance. Regards Ross Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1293g00t4/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=g roups/S=1705019182:HM/EXP=1090080573/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http://com panion.yahoo.com> Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ * * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Uns ubscribe> * * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-07-16 by john dean
I have used the Premier Art spray since it became available and the Lyson Printguard for years before that with identical results. Wilhelm has only formally tested the Premier Art spray which is why everyone uses it now. I spray all the Hahnemuhle rag papers because they have a tendency to skuff badly in the blacks. Actually all inkjet papers can do this but Hahnemuhle because of the surface coating are the worst for this, but in my opinion the best in color saturation and d-max and great permanence factors. . These two sprays don't effect the surface appearance at all from my observations. This puts them in a class all by themselves. They do softent the gloss of Premium Glossy papers a slight amount but this also reduces the bronzing effect of the pigment inks on glossy media. I spray the prints after they have hardended overnight but often have had to spray them much soon with no problems at all. The one exception is with any RC paper like Premium Luster which will fog if you spray it too soon. Gases are released from these rc media so you need to wait 12-24 hours before spraying them.I had this happen once with p luster quickly sprayed. These are non-yellowing sprays and Wilhelm Ins. has shown them to improve image stability in the realm of doubling the permanence of most media. I like them for the permance protection, the coating aganst scuffing and scratching, and the moisture and pollution protection. These sprays are also perfect for portfolios where the prints are being handled regularly. john --- borgida <borgida@...> wrote: > Hello > > I am interesed in possibly using the PremierArt > Print Shield Spray. > I use Photorag and William Turner paper with the MIS > UT2 inks. Is > the PremierArt Print Shield spray used with the > Photorag and William > Turner Inks? When do you apply the spray to the > paper - before or > after printing? Does the spray provide a higher > DMAX or is the spray > only used for greater archivability? > > Thanks for all responses in advance. > > Regards > Ross > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
2004-07-16 by Ross Borgida
Hi Steve Where can I purchase the Lascaux Fixative? Thanks Ross Steve Kale <stevekale@...> wrote: Ross You will find that the spray will reduce dMax on Matt papers (and shift the other steps as well). Paul Roark as recommended using Lascaux Fixative on matt papers rather than PremierArt Print Shield/Lyson Print Guard (same product). It does not affect dMax to a significant degree. I just got some but have noticed that it doesn�t seem to provide the same degree of protection as Lyson Print Guard but I have not tested this extensively yet. You spray once the print is dry. Regards Steve
From: "borgida" <borgida@...> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:07:32 -0000 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] PremierArt Print Shield Spray Hello I am interesed in possibly using the PremierArt Print Shield Spray. I use Photorag and William Turner paper with the MIS UT2 inks. Is the PremierArt Print Shield spray used with the Photorag and William Turner Inks? When do you apply the spray to the paper - before or after printing? Does the spray provide a higher DMAX or is the spray only used for greater archivability? Thanks for all responses in advance. Regards Ross Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. 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2004-07-16 by Steve Kale
I live in the UK and so I am not going to be much help on that one.
> From: Ross Borgida <borgida@...> > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 11:43:19 -0700 (PDT) > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] PremierArt Print Shield Spray > > Hi Steve > > Where can I purchase the Lascaux Fixative? > > Thanks > Ross
2004-07-16 by John Vitollo
Ross Borgida wrote: > Where can I purchase the Lascaux Fixative? I did a Google search: http://www.jerrysartarama.com/art-supply/catalogs/0047147000000 http://www.dickblick.com/zz217/14/products.asp?param=0&ig_id=4138 http://www.dakotapastels.com/index_fixatives_tools.shtml