Digital BW, The Print

What printers are people using for BO printers?  What printers don't 
work.

I just started experimenting with promising results on an Epson 7600 
(using the Ultrachrome Matte black on Epson-Enhanced-Matte and 
Hanamuhle German Etching paper.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lancscott" 
<lancscott@y...> wrote:
> 
> What printers are people using for BO printers?  What printers 
don't 
> work.

Hello Lancscott,

>What printers are people using for BO printers?  What printers
>don't work.

Any Epson printer except the 800 will probably work.  The best results
will come from newer models with 4 picoliter or smaller droplet size
with variable droplet capability.  In addition, the new 4000 has a
superior dither pattern which produces the best BO prints I've seen
yet.  There is a possibility the the small C64 _may_ have this good
dither pattern but that has not been confirmed yet.  

Many BO users prefer the Eboni black ink from MIS, so I'd also
recommend getting a model for which Eboni cartridges are available
(check with MIS for that information).

Another thing to look for is whether the model can handle the real
thick paper stock that many of the better fine art papers use.  For
example, the 2200 has a rear feeder that can accept very thick stock
that some other models can't handle.

I'm not certain, but am pretty sure that Canon and HP printers do not
produce as good results as the Epsons.

Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
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Clayton Jones wrote:
>Hello Lancscott,
>
> >What printers are people using for BO printers?  What printers
> >don't work.
>
>Any Epson printer except the 800 will probably work.  The best results
>will come from newer models with 4 picoliter or smaller droplet size
>with variable droplet capability.  In addition, the new 4000 has a
>superior dither pattern which produces the best BO prints I've seen
>yet.  There is a possibility the the small C64 _may_ have this good
>dither pattern but that has not been confirmed yet.

Clayton, so that you don't buy the wrong printer, the other printer is the 
C84, not C64.

-Don

Hello Don,

>Clayton, so that you don't buy the wrong printer, the other printer 
>is the C84, not C64.

OOPS!!!  Sorry about that.  Somehow I got 64 stuck up there in the
gray stuff.  Thanks for the correction.


Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

FWIW, I don't have a 4000 and so haven't seen its dither pattern, but I do 
have a C84 (incredible bang for the buck) and printed a bunch of BO prints 
with it using both the Epson OEM black cart that came with it, and with EZ 
Eboni.  While the BO results are nice, they're smoother with the EZ inks 
firing on all four nozzles.  And the BO dither in large smooth areas looked 
almost exactly the same as I got printing BO on my old 860 with Epson ink 
(same images printed at the same sizes - I was doing some comparison 
testing of inks and papers.)

Cheers,
Kip

At 7/19/2004 06:38 PM +0000, you wrote:

>Hello Don,
>
> >Clayton, so that you don't buy the wrong printer, the other printer is 
> the C84, not C64.
>
>OOPS!!!  Sorry about that.  Somehow I got 64 stuck up there in the gray 
>stuff.  Thanks for the correction.
>
>Regards,
>Clayton

Hello Kip,

>I do have a C84 (incredible bang for the buck) and printed a bunch 
>of BO prints...the BO dither in large smooth areas looked 
>almost exactly the same as I got printing BO on my old 860 

Well, that doesn't sound good.  I was hoping it would be like the
4000.  The 4000 dither pattern does make a difference.  I wonder if
drivers for existing printers could be reprogrammed to use that
pattern...

Thanks for the info.


Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm