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7600 roll paper gimp

2004-09-22 by James Haney

I am having problems printing to my 7600 with QTR.

Even though I have roll paper loaded, when I print the printer prompts 
me to "Load Sheet Paper".

Anyone ever encounter this before and have a solution?

I tricked the printer into thinking that it has sheet paper loaded by 
loading roll paper, then switching the paper source to "Sheet" but the 
printer won't cut the roll and when a file is done printing the printer 
proceeds to eject the entire roll. I have to unplug the printer to stop 
it.

Any tips?

James Haney

Re: 7600 roll paper gimp

2004-09-22 by Tyler Boley

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, James Haney
<jhaney@l...> wrote:
...
> I tricked the printer into thinking that it has sheet paper loaded by 
> loading roll paper, then switching the paper source to "Sheet" but the 
> printer won't cut the roll and when a file is done printing the printer 
> proceeds to eject the entire roll. I have to unplug the printer to stop 
> it.
> 
> Any tips?

When done printing image release paper lever, turn off printer, cut
off print, turn back on.
Tyler

Re: [Digital BW] Re: 7600 roll paper gimp

2004-09-22 by James Haney

I had a feeling the answer would be something like that!

Roy says that the new QTR 2.1 may provide a solution to the problem.

James
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On Sep 22, 2004, at 12:19 AM, Tyler Boley wrote:
>>
>
> When done printing image release paper lever, turn off printer, cut
> off print, turn back on.
> Tyler

Re: 7600 roll paper gimp

2004-09-22 by Michael B. Askew

You could pre-cut a sheet from the roll to the size you want.  Then 
it would eject only the sheet.


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, James Haney 
<jhaney@l...> wrote:
> I am having problems printing to my 7600 with QTR.
> 
> Even though I have roll paper loaded, when I print the printer 
prompts 
> me to "Load Sheet Paper".
> 
> Anyone ever encounter this before and have a solution?
> 
> I tricked the printer into thinking that it has sheet paper loaded 
by 
> loading roll paper, then switching the paper source to "Sheet" but 
the 
> printer won't cut the roll and when a file is done printing the 
printer 
> proceeds to eject the entire roll. I have to unplug the printer to 
stop 
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> it.
> 
> Any tips?
> 
> James Haney

Re: [Digital BW] Re: 7600 roll paper gimp

2004-09-22 by James Haney

Michael,

That's a good idea, a pain in the butt, however my best option unless 
QTR 2.1 works.

James
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On Sep 22, 2004, at 11:06 AM, Michael B. Askew wrote:

> You could pre-cut a sheet from the roll to the size you want.  Then
> it would eject only the sheet.

[Digital BW] Re: 7600 roll paper gimp

2004-09-22 by Tyler Boley

By the way, you don't want to use the cutter on the nice thick fine
art papers anyway. They dull the blade after only a few cuts. It was
designed for Epson's normal flimsy stuff.
Tyler

Can ultrasmooth be autocut in Epson 4000? (was: 7600 roll paper gimp)

2004-09-22 by Ron Hornbaker

> By the way, you don't want to use the cutter on the nice thick fine
> art papers anyway. They dull the blade after only a few cuts. It was
> designed for Epson's normal flimsy stuff.
> Tyler

I know that's the Epson party line, but can others confirm that
cutting a paper like Epson Ultrasmooth on a 17" roll with the 4000's
autocut mechanism will quickly wear out the blade? It seems to do a
great job on the few prints I've used it for, and cutting roll paper
by hand is such a hassle - straight edges are impossible.

Thanks,
Ron

RE: [Digital BW] Can ultrasmooth be autocut in Epson 4000? (was: 7600 roll paper gimp)

2004-09-22 by Paul Roark

Just to insert my 2 cents' worth regarding auto cutting --  

As noted, below, the Epson large-format roll paper cutters don't work well
on thick paper.  I use it to cut EEM on my 7500, but not my UltraSmooth roll
paper.

I really like that cutting feature for roll papers.  So, for that and other
reasons, a thick roll paper has some disadvantages.

The thought that PremierArt 205 might be a paper that has the UltraSmooth
coating and is more likely to be easily cut by my 7500 is one reason I
thought that paper deserved very close examination.  (Way lower cost also
figures in my calculations.)

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Hornbaker [mailto:ron@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:16 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Can ultrasmooth be autocut in Epson 4000? (was: 7600
roll paper gimp)

> By the way, you don't want to use the cutter on the nice thick fine
> art papers anyway. They dull the blade after only a few cuts. It was
> designed for Epson's normal flimsy stuff.
> Tyler

I know that's the Epson party line, but can others confirm that
cutting a paper like Epson Ultrasmooth on a 17" roll with the 4000's
autocut mechanism will quickly wear out the blade? It seems to do a
great job on the few prints I've used it for, and cutting roll paper
by hand is such a hassle - straight edges are impossible.

Thanks,
Ron




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Re: Can ultrasmooth be autocut in Epson 4000? (was: 7600 roll paper gimp)

2004-09-22 by Tyler Boley

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Ron Hornbaker"
<ron@b...> wrote:
> > By the way, you don't want to use the cutter on the nice thick fine
> > art papers anyway. They dull the blade after only a few cuts. It was
> > designed for Epson's normal flimsy stuff.
> > Tyler
> 
> I know that's the Epson party line...

I don't know about that, I'm certainly not a member.
I suppose you could just have a good supply of blades on hand and keep
changing them out, I agree it is convenient.
Tyler

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Can ultrasmooth be autocut in Epson 4000? (was: 7600 roll paper gimp)

2004-09-23 by The Wogster

On 22 Sep 2004 at 21:54, Tyler Boley wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Ron Hornbaker"
> <ron@b...> wrote:
> > > By the way, you don't want to use the cutter on the nice thick fine
> > > art papers anyway. They dull the blade after only a few cuts. It was
> > > designed for Epson's normal flimsy stuff.
> > > Tyler
> > 
> > I know that's the Epson party line...
> 
> I don't know about that, I'm certainly not a member.
> I suppose you could just have a good supply of blades on hand and keep
> changing them out, I agree it is convenient.

That's the question, can the blade easily be replaced, and how expensive is it?  If 
it's easy to replace, and farily cheap, it's part of the paper cost, if you save $25 on 
say 100 photos, and spend $5 on blades, who cares?  The other issue, is the blade 
a proprietory Epson part, or could you substitute another blade, that holds it's edge 
better. Can the blade be sharpened?  Take the blade to someone who specializes in 
industrial blades, and see if they have anything the same size and shape.....

W

auto roll cutting thick media

2004-09-23 by john dean

I have been printing large prints on my Ep. 10K on very thick 308 gsm and similar media 
for 3 years constantly, almost everyday, and have used the paper cutter for almost 
everything. My printer cuts Ultra-Smooth all the way through as well as Somerset Velvet, 
and scores the Hahnemuhle Papers nicely so all you have to do is tear them by hand for a 
clean smooth edge. After three years I just noticed that it isn't quite making it through 
Somerset anymore in the middle section without a little help from the sharp scissors I use. 
So, it is time for me to replace the blade. But. you know I've saved a lot of time these past 
3 years by using that internal blade on rag papers. 

Now.... whether this is the story with the 9600 and smaller prints I just don't know. It 
could well be that they are not as substantial in size or durability of the blade edge. I 
would ask Epson, but they will tell you to not use it on the rag media thicker than theirs 
anyway. But it was always my impression that all of their rag papers ( smooth fine art, 
somerset for Epson, ultra-smooth) we given a slightly thinner profile so that these paper 
cutters would work. 

Your right that it is a pain to remove the roll and take it over to the paper trimmer after 
each run. On my printer if the edge isn't totally straight it won't print and without scoring, 
the chances of cutting a perfect edge by hand are quite low. For awhile I had my 72" 
rototrim on the floor by the printer and that was a real pain. I guess you could set up a 
table in front of the printer with a big paper cutter on it and do it that way. I personally 
don't have room for doing that and I need my trimmer for other work all the time.

john.
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> > By the way, you don't want to use the cutter on the nice thick fine
> > art papers anyway. They dull the blade after only a few cuts. It was
> > designed for Epson's normal flimsy stuff.
> > Tyler
> 
> I know that's the Epson party line, but can others confirm that
> cutting a paper like Epson Ultrasmooth on a 17" roll with the 4000's
> autocut mechanism will quickly wear out the blade? It seems to do a
> great job on the few prints I've used it for, and cutting roll paper
> by hand is such a hassle - straight edges are impossible.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ron

Re: [Digital BW] auto roll cutting thick media

2004-09-23 by Carl Schofield

On the 4000 where the print head and cutter run together on the same 
rail, I'd worry more about strain on the drive motor when trying to cut 
heavy papers.
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On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 10:32  AM, john dean wrote:

> I have been printing large prints on my Ep. 10K on very thick 308 gsm 
> and similar media
> for 3 years constantly, almost everyday, and have used the paper 
> cutter for almost
> everything. My printer cuts Ultra-Smooth all the way through as well 
> as Somerset Velvet,
> and scores the Hahnemuhle Papers nicely so all you have to do is tear 
> them by hand for a
> clean smooth edge. After three years I just noticed that it isn't 
> quite making it through
> Somerset anymore in the middle section without a little help from the 
> sharp scissors I use.
> So, it is time for me to replace the blade. But. you know I've saved a 
> lot of time these past
> 3 years by using that internal blade on rag papers.
>
> Now.... whether this is the story with the 9600 and smaller prints I 
> just don't know. It
> could well be that they are not as substantial in size or durability 
> of the blade edge. I
> would ask Epson, but they will tell you to not use it on the rag media 
> thicker than theirs
> anyway. But it was always my impression that all of their rag papers ( 
> smooth fine art,
> somerset for Epson, ultra-smooth) we given a slightly thinner profile 
> so that these paper
> cutters would work.
>
> Your right that it is a pain to remove the roll and take it over to 
> the paper trimmer after
> each run. On my printer if the edge isn't totally straight it won't 
> print and without scoring,
> the chances of cutting a perfect edge by hand are quite low. For 
> awhile I had my 72"
> rototrim on the floor by the printer and that was a real pain. I guess 
> you could set up a
> table in front of the printer with a big paper cutter on it and do it 
> that way. I personally
> don't have room for doing that and I need my trimmer for other work 
> all the time.
>
> john.
>
>
>>> By the way, you don't want to use the cutter on the nice thick fine
>>> art papers anyway. They dull the blade after only a few cuts. It was
>>> designed for Epson's normal flimsy stuff.
>>> Tyler
>>
>> I know that's the Epson party line, but can others confirm that
>> cutting a paper like Epson Ultrasmooth on a 17" roll with the 4000's
>> autocut mechanism will quickly wear out the blade? It seems to do a
>> great job on the few prints I've used it for, and cutting roll paper
>> by hand is such a hassle - straight edges are impossible.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ron
>
>
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RE: [Digital BW] auto roll cutting thick media

2004-09-23 by Ron Hornbaker

Thanks for the real-world report, John. My 4000 cutter glides thru the
Ultrasmooth roll paper like it was butter, so I believe I'll be
continuing that and hoping for the best. If it dulls, I hope it will
gracefully fail and simply score the paper like your 10K with
Hahnemuhle.

-Ron
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: john dean [mailto:deanwork2003@...] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:33 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] auto roll cutting thick media
> 
> I have been printing large prints on my Ep. 10K on very thick 
> 308 gsm and similar media 
> for 3 years constantly, almost everyday, and have used the 
> paper cutter for almost 
> everything. My printer cuts Ultra-Smooth all the way through 
> as well as Somerset Velvet, 
> and scores the Hahnemuhle Papers nicely so all you have to do 
> is tear them by hand for a 
> clean smooth edge. After three years I just noticed that it 
> isn't quite making it through 
> Somerset anymore in the middle section without a little help 
> from the sharp scissors I use. 
> So, it is time for me to replace the blade. But. you know 
> I've saved a lot of time these past 
> 3 years by using that internal blade on rag papers. 
> 
> Now.... whether this is the story with the 9600 and smaller 
> prints I just don't know. It 
> could well be that they are not as substantial in size or 
> durability of the blade edge. I 
> would ask Epson, but they will tell you to not use it on the 
> rag media thicker than theirs 
> anyway. But it was always my impression that all of their rag 
> papers ( smooth fine art, 
> somerset for Epson, ultra-smooth) we given a slightly thinner 
> profile so that these paper 
> cutters would work. 
> 
> Your right that it is a pain to remove the roll and take it 
> over to the paper trimmer after 
> each run. On my printer if the edge isn't totally straight it 
> won't print and without scoring, 
> the chances of cutting a perfect edge by hand are quite low. 
> For awhile I had my 72" 
> rototrim on the floor by the printer and that was a real 
> pain. I guess you could set up a 
> table in front of the printer with a big paper cutter on it 
> and do it that way. I personally 
> don't have room for doing that and I need my trimmer for 
> other work all the time.
> 
> john.

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