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Hey,

I want to remove Cone's PiezoTone inks loaded on a 7600, to be replaced with Epson UC 
inks.  What is the best procedure to do this?

Thank you.

Shilesh

Hmm... Remove cartridges...straighten out some coat-hangers...roll 
some $50.00 bills on the end of the coat-hangers... swab the lines 
with the $50.00 bills... repeat as neccessary....

Hey, it worked for me!

Steve

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani" 
<shilesh.jani@s...> wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> I want to remove Cone's PiezoTone inks loaded on a 7600, to be 
replaced with Epson UC 

> inks.  What is the best procedure to do this?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Shilesh

Put in cleaning carts, you can get them from mediastreet.com. First
make sure your maintainance tank is nowhere near full. Do an init
fill. Let the printer sit that way for about 24 hours, doing a
cleaning cycle every few hours, and a couple of power cleanings thrown in.
Then put in the UC carts and do another init fill.
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani"
<shilesh.jani@s...> wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> I want to remove Cone's PiezoTone inks loaded on a 7600, to be
replaced with Epson UC 

> inks.  What is the best procedure to do this?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Shilesh

Init fill wastes allot of cleaning fluid/inks. You can save lots if you 
disconnect ink lines at dampers and draw the cleaning fluid/inks with a 
syringe. Then run a few KK2s until you get it to run clear. I would 
also change the dampers, there is sure to be some pigments stuck in 
filter screens.
Mark

On Jan 6, 2005, at 1:53 AM, Tyler Boley wrote:

>
>  Put in cleaning carts, you can get them from mediastreet.com. First
>  make sure your maintainance tank is nowhere near full. Do an init
>  fill. Let the printer sit that way for about 24 hours, doing a
>  cleaning cycle every few hours, and a couple of power cleanings 
> thrown in.
>  Then put in the UC carts and do another init fill.
>  Tyler
>
>  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani"
>  <shilesh.jani@s...> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hey,
>  >
>  > I want to remove Cone's PiezoTone inks loaded on a 7600, to be
>  replaced with Epson UC
>  > inks.� What is the best procedure to do this?
>  >
>  > Thank you.
>  >
>  > Shilesh
>
>
>
>
>
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--- Shilesh Jani <shilesh.jani@...>
wrote:


> I want to remove Cone's PiezoTone inks loaded on a
> 7600, to be replaced with Epson UC 
> inks.  What is the best procedure to do this?

Epson will gladly help you with this at no charge,
since it means you are going to be buying their inks
from now on.  When I did it with my 7600, they shipped
me the flushing carts on loan and talked me through
the process.  Then I returned the carts.  There is no
reason to buy flushing carts.

On 1/6/05 11:07 AM, "Joel Pickford" <joelpickford@...> wrote:

> Epson will gladly help you with this at no charge,

Even if it's out of warranty?

Thanks for the info.


Rick Murai

www.richardmurai.com
http://www.hawaii.edu/mjournal/text/issues/descriptions/cambodia04.html

Is this, at the same time, when they will blame all future ink related 
hardware problems on the third party inks and now "its not covered"? I 
would rather do the changeover on my own and claim in the future that 
there never was anything but genuine Epson inks in it.
Mark

On Jan 6, 2005, at 3:05 PM, R Murai wrote:

> On 1/6/05 11:07 AM, "Joel Pickford" <joelpickford@...> wrote:
>
>  > Epson will gladly help you with this at no charge,
>
>  Even if it's out of warranty?
>
>  Thanks for the info.
>
>
>  Rick Murai


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Epson had just done two head replacements, plus
replaced the dampers and caps all under warranty, in
spite of the fact that I was running Cone inks.  The
first Epson tech who came out even helped me try to
get the Cone inks up and running again!  When that
failed, and I decided to go back to UC, they shipped
me the flushing carts free.

> Is this, at the same time, when they will blame all
> future ink related 
> hardware problems on the third party inks and now
> "its not covered"? I 
> would rather do the changeover on my own and claim
> in the future that 
> there never was anything but genuine Epson inks in
> it.
> Mark

Yes, very true. But I have no experience with getting to the dampers
with a x600, seems a lot of disassembly is required, so didn't want to
steer in that direction personally.
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia
<mark@c...> wrote:
> Init fill wastes allot of cleaning fluid/inks. You can save lots if you 
> disconnect ink lines at dampers and draw the cleaning fluid/inks with a 
> syringe. Then run a few KK2s until you get it to run clear. I would 
> also change the dampers, there is sure to be some pigments stuck in 
> filter screens.
> Mark
> 
> On Jan 6, 2005, at 1:53 AM, Tyler Boley wrote:
> 
> >
> >  Put in cleaning carts, you can get them from mediastreet.com. First
> >  make sure your maintainance tank is nowhere near full. Do an init
> >  fill. Let the printer sit that way for about 24 hours, doing a
> >  cleaning cycle every few hours, and a couple of power cleanings 
> > thrown in.
> >  Then put in the UC carts and do another init fill.
> >  Tyler
> >
> >  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani"
> >  <shilesh.jani@s...> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Hey,
> >  >
> >  > I want to remove Cone's PiezoTone inks loaded on a 7600, to be
> >  replaced with Epson UC
> >  > inks.  What is the best procedure to do this?
> >  >
> >  > Thank you.
> >  >
> >  > Shilesh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other 
> > resources as they are often being updated.
> >
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from 
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"OWNER" 
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> > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE 
> > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE
PRINT 

> > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), 
> > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, 
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Must be a location (part of the world) thing. Every Epson and third 
party service company that has come in here has literally yelled to me 
about them NOT covering anything ink related because of third party 
inks, end of story. Where are you?
Mark


On Jan 6, 2005, at 3:31 PM, Joel Pickford wrote:

> Epson had just done two head replacements, plus
>  replaced the dampers and caps all under warranty, in
>  spite of the fact that I was running Cone inks.  The
>  first Epson tech who came out even helped me try to
>  get the Cone inks up and running again!  When that
>  failed, and I decided to go back to UC, they shipped
>  me the flushing carts free.
>


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> Must be a location (part of the world) thing. Every
> Epson and third 
> party service company that has come in here has
> literally yelled to me 
> about them NOT covering anything ink related because
> of third party 
> inks, end of story. Where are you?
> Mark

Central California.  The service guys were out of San
Jose.  The first guy who did the first head
replacement was really nice.  He had a terminal
disease and didn't seem to care about anything but
trying to do some good for the people whose machines
he was servicing.  The second guy they sent out for
the second head replacement was the hatchet man.  He
delivered an ultimatum of no more service if the
machine was running third party inks.

The first guy told me that he once did four head
relpacements for a Cone ink user (with whom I happened
to be acquainted).  When I told the second guy this,
he just repeated his ultimatum.

So you are saying when I need service to ask for the oldest, sickest 
technician they got?
:)
Mark

On Jan 6, 2005, at 4:21 PM, Joel Pickford wrote:

> > Must be a location (part of the world) thing. Every
>  > Epson and third
>  > party service company that has come in here has
>  > literally yelled to me
>  > about them NOT covering anything ink related because
>  > of third party
>  > inks, end of story. Where are you?
>  > Mark
>
>  Central California.  The service guys were out of San
>  Jose.  The first guy who did the first head
>  replacement was really nice.  He had a terminal
>  disease and didn't seem to care about anything but
>  trying to do some good for the people whose machines
>  he was servicing.  The second guy they sent out for
>  the second head replacement was the hatchet man.  He
>  delivered an ultimatum of no more service if the
>  machine was running third party inks.
>
>  The first guy told me that he once did four head
>  relpacements for a Cone ink user (with whom I happened
>  to be acquainted).  When I told the second guy this,
>  he just repeated his ultimatum.
>
>


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