Digital BW, The Print

Update,

Wanted to fill you in on the final outcome last night with my panorama printed 
out of Photoshop and qtr.

After I set up the qtr 2.2( new version) I was able to complete my project.

QTR functioned beautifully. My final print was 20"x170" ( 14 feet long) on 
William Turner rag. This is as large as Photoshop would let me go. It took 
several hours to complete. I lost count. I used the slower qtr setting. The file 
was sent to the 9600 at 170 dpi in greyscale 2.2. The resolution was just fine 
and the tonality was quite smooth. I normally use at least 240 dpi but this 
worked.

I tried the new version of PS CS2 and found no difference in its ability to 
handle larger files on my Mac. My final pixel count was 3400 pixels by 28900 
pixels = 32,300 total pixels I assume?

It was nice not having to  tile out of Illustrator and keep the control of qtr. But 
apparently for anything longer ( please no ) I would have to use Illustrator or 
buy Studio Print which I should have anyway.......

John

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
<deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> Update,
> 
> Wanted to fill you in on the final outcome last night with my panorama printed 
> out of Photoshop and qtr.
> 
> After I set up the qtr 2.2( new version) I was able to complete my project.
> 
> QTR functioned beautifully. My final print was 20"x170" ( 14 feet long) on 
> William Turner rag. This is as large as Photoshop would let me go. It took 
> several hours to complete. I lost count. I used the slower qtr setting. The file 
> was sent to the 9600 at 170 dpi in greyscale 2.2. The resolution was just fine 
> and the tonality was quite smooth. I normally use at least 240 dpi but this 
> worked.
> 
> I tried the new version of PS CS2 and found no difference in its ability to 
> handle larger files on my Mac. My final pixel count was 3400 pixels by 28900 
> pixels = 32,300 total pixels I assume?
> 
> It was nice not having to  tile out of Illustrator and keep the control of qtr. But 
> apparently for anything longer ( please no ) I would have to use Illustrator or 
> buy Studio Print which I should have anyway.......
> 
> John

The Photoshop limit was a real surprise to me.  Although PS CS can make
and edit files larger than 30000 pixels in width or height, you can't print them.
(The limit is for the width and height in pixels not the sum).   So you can
go as large as a 30000x30000 pixel image.  But once you step over to 30001
pixels you lose the Print command as well as a bunch of other functions.
No printing seems pretty drastic to me.   

But it does appear that you can save as a TIFF file, read it into Preview and
print from there.

BTW, from Epson literature it looks like the 7600/9600 are limited at 15meters
or about 49 feet.

Roy

But it does appear that you can save as a TIFF file, read it into Preview and
print from there.

BTW, from Epson literature it looks like the 7600/9600 are limited at 15meters
or about 49 feet.

Roy


Roy,

The limit must have to do with the data storage limits?

How to do you that, read into preview ? That is  new to me.

So your saying out of Photoshop we should be able to reach this length - (49 
feet ) in QTR? Now that would be something, althought it would probably take 
all day and all night to print on the finer settings.

John

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
<deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> But it does appear that you can save as a TIFF file, read it into Preview and
> print from there.
> 
> BTW, from Epson literature it looks like the 7600/9600 are limited at 15meters
> or about 49 feet.
> 
> Roy
> 
> 
> Roy,
> 
> The limit must have to do with the data storage limits?

I imagine the 15 meter limit is pretty arbitrary but that's what the Epson document
says.   Some of the older limits were caused by only having 16 bits for the
page length but the newer printers all have 32 bits for page length.  That would
give absurdly long prints so they probably just picked 15 meters.

> 
> How to do you that, read into preview ? That is  new to me.

Yes, you can save the huge TIFF from PS and read into Preview (Mac's generic viewer).
I didn't actually print but the Print command was enabled.

> 
> So your saying out of Photoshop we should be able to reach this length - (49 
> feet ) in QTR? Now that would be something, althought it would probably take 
> all day and all night to print on the finer settings.

Temp files could get humongous and might bring most machines to their knees.
So although 49 feet is theoretically possible it might not be practical.

Roy

> 
> John

Has anyone used Lyson's Darkroom Gloss 320gsm Media with piezo inks  
(Cone's)?
Mark

Mark Savoia wrote:

> Has anyone used Lyson's Darkroom Gloss 320gsm Media with piezo inks 
> (Cone's)?
> Mark
>
>
This paper is designed for dye inks. PiezoTones are pigment inks. What 
you'll get with PiezoTones on this paper is plenty of gloss differential 
and I suspect a poor Dmax also. Not a paper I would use with PiezoTones.
--
Bruce Watson

Mark,
I did try that and it definitely does not work. Not worth anyone going to the
trouble to find out....

antonis


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@c...> wrote:

> Has anyone used Lyson's Darkroom Gloss 320gsm Media with piezo inks  
> (Cone's)?
> Mark

Thanks for the heads up.
Mark

On Jul 6, 2005, at 6:19 PM, Antonis wrote:

> Mark,
> I did try that and it definitely does not work. Not worth anyone  
> going to the
> trouble to find out....
>
> antonis
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia  
> <mark@c...> wrote:
> > Has anyone used Lyson's Darkroom Gloss 320gsm Media with piezo inks
> > (Cone's)?
> > Mark
>
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Thanks for the info.
Mark

On Jul 6, 2005, at 4:59 PM, hogarth@...t wrote:

> Mark Savoia wrote:
>
> > Has anyone used Lyson's Darkroom Gloss 320gsm Media with piezo inks
> > (Cone's)?
> > Mark
> >
> >
> This paper is designed for dye inks. PiezoTones are pigment inks. What
> you'll get with PiezoTones on this paper is plenty of gloss  
> differential
> and I suspect a poor Dmax also. Not a paper I would use with  
> PiezoTones.
> --
> Bruce Watson
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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