Digital BW, The Print

>Sorry for the cross-post, really need some help,
though.

Hello list, 
 I just set up my NMC CIS on my 1270 w/ MIS Arch.
Color inks and noticed something strange right away..
My prints were coming out with a severe cyan
"overspray" to the left and top of my print's edge.

I printed some blocks of color to see the range of
this
effect. I've posted a scanned print here:
http://www.tronicart.com/inks/spray.html 

Most of the overspray occurred on purple, cyan and
blue
blocks. There also appears to be some magenta
overspray. It doesn't seem to happen on black blocks.

I've run several cleaning cycles to no avail. Nozzle
checks come up fine, as do alignment checks. I haven't
tried swapping out w/ an OEM cart, need to buy one.
Think the one I took out dried already?(since sat.).

I'm running this system on a PC w/ PhotoShop 6.
Problem
also shows up in PhotoShop 5.5.

I heard this discussed back in the summer, but don't
remember it ever getting resolved.(he just gave the
printer away)

Has this happened to anyone? Did you find a solution?

Thanks for your help!!
Daniel Perez

>note: My MIS VM CIS set on my 1280 is working without problem.

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Daniel,
This sounds like a problem I had a month or so back.  I had a cyan 
airbrush-like edge next to the top and left of each image about a 
1/4" wide.  I hope your solution is as simple as mine.  I had left 
the paper thickness switch under the cover of my 1270 on + for thick 
paper.  
Hap

> Hello list, 
>  I just set up my NMC CIS on my 1270 w/ MIS Arch.
> Color inks and noticed something strange right away..
> My prints were coming out with a severe cyan
> "overspray" to the left and top of my print's edge.
> 
> I printed some blocks of color to see the range of
> this
> effect. I've posted a scanned print here:
> http://www.tronicart.com/inks/spray.html 
> 
> Most of the overspray occurred on purple, cyan and
> blue
> blocks. There also appears to be some magenta
> overspray. It doesn't seem to happen on black blocks.
> 
> I've run several cleaning cycles to no avail. Nozzle
> checks come up fine, as do alignment checks. I haven't
> tried swapping out w/ an OEM cart, need to buy one.
> Think the one I took out dried already?(since sat.).
> 
> I'm running this system on a PC w/ PhotoShop 6.
> Problem
> also shows up in PhotoShop 5.5.
> 
> I heard this discussed back in the summer, but don't
> remember it ever getting resolved.(he just gave the
> printer away)
> 
> Has this happened to anyone? Did you find a solution?
> 
> Thanks for your help!!
> Daniel Perez
> 
> >note: My MIS VM CIS set on my 1280 is working without problem.
> 
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Okay, I contacted No More Carts and they said this was
the first case of overspray with MIS they had seen,
but confirmed that this was a problem with Color Piezo
inks(on 1270-2000's).  They also said this looked
worse than what they had seen before.

They suggested pulling the cart out and pushing it
back in VERY firmly.  Though I had tried that already,
I gave it a shot anyway.  I ran some cleaning cycles
and let it sit overnight for good measure.  

I printed some bars this morning and saw some *slight*
cyan overspray again, but far less than before.  I
then set the +/0 switch (paper thickness)to 0 (as Hap
suggested, thanks)and that seems to have done it! 
Very sharp, clean edges on EAM and was able to print a
clean profile target. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the
ink.

My question is, can I print on 260gsm Museo with the
+/0 switch set to 0?  Anyone tried this?

Thanks for all the help!
-daniel


--- hapm <hapm@...> wrote:
> Daniel,
> This sounds like a problem I had a month or so back.
>  I had a cyan 
> airbrush-like edge next to the top and left of each
> image about a 
> 1/4" wide.  I hope your solution is as simple as
> mine.  I had left 
> the paper thickness switch under the cover of my
> 1270 on + for thick 
> paper.  
> Hap
> 


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Yep I have - works OK on my main printer - not on the backup.

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Perez" <tronicart@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Cyan overspray (halo) on CIS<cross posted>


> Okay, I contacted No More Carts and they said this was
> the first case of overspray with MIS they had seen,
> but confirmed that this was a problem with Color Piezo
> inks(on 1270-2000's).  They also said this looked
> worse than what they had seen before.
>
> They suggested pulling the cart out and pushing it
> back in VERY firmly.  Though I had tried that already,
> I gave it a shot anyway.  I ran some cleaning cycles
> and let it sit overnight for good measure.
>
> I printed some bars this morning and saw some *slight*
> cyan overspray again, but far less than before.  I
> then set the +/0 switch (paper thickness)to 0 (as Hap
> suggested, thanks)and that seems to have done it!
> Very sharp, clean edges on EAM and was able to print a
> clean profile target. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the
> ink.
>
> My question is, can I print on 260gsm Museo with the
> +/0 switch set to 0?  Anyone tried this?
>
> Thanks for all the help!
> -daniel
>
>
> --- hapm <hapm@...> wrote:
> > Daniel,
> > This sounds like a problem I had a month or so back.
> >  I had a cyan
> > airbrush-like edge next to the top and left of each
> > image about a
> > 1/4" wide.  I hope your solution is as simple as
> > mine.  I had left
> > the paper thickness switch under the cover of my
> > 1270 on + for thick
> > paper.
> > Hap
> >
>
>
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>[snip] My [Daniel Perez's] question is, can I print on 260gsm Museo with the
>+/0 switch set to 0?  Anyone tried this? [snip]

I have inadvertently tried it both on a 900 and on an 1160 with 
Crane's 300-gsm/110-lb, about 11-mil,  cover stock, without incident. 
But I don't do it deliberately for fear the print head might 
accumulate damage not immediately apparent.

Sam

> My question is, can I print on 260gsm Museo with the
> +/0 switch set to 0?  Anyone tried this?
  forgot to add: on a 1280 or 1270?
thx,
 -daniel

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Sam, thanks for the info.  
I noticed I conveniently posted a follow up to my
message asking for info specifically on 1270 & 1280
printers right after you posted your experience with
an 1160(w/out acknowledging your comment). 
..just a coincidence. 
I was just narrowing down my question. I'm probably
being overly apologetic, but I don't want my message
to have come off as being rude ..I like this list too
much!
thanks again,
  -daniel


--- "Sam A. McCandless" <samcc@...> wrote:
> >[snip] My [Daniel Perez's] question is, can I print
> on 260gsm Museo with the
> >+/0 switch set to 0?  Anyone tried this? [snip]
> 
> I have inadvertently tried it both on a 900 and on
> an 1160 with 
> Crane's 300-gsm/110-lb, about 11-mil,  cover stock,
> without incident. 
> But I don't do it deliberately for fear the print
> head might 
> accumulate damage not immediately apparent.
> 
> Sam
> 
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