Digital BW, The Print

I have a 1280 with a CIS that I've been using for WN PiezoTones and the 
images are very nice but the machine is slow and I'm tired of dealing with the 
CIS.

I also have a 4000 and I'd like to switch to the K7 inkset on it. It sounds like, 
though, that there are no curves available for the 4000.  I can't justify afford a 
Gretag EyeOne spectrophotometer at this time. 

Does anyone know another way I could get a curve to use with PhotoRag? I 
called IJM and they said they don't do that.

Also, I read that these inks could be installed in the 4000 without flushing. Do 
you think it is feasible to use the printer for both color and K7 by simply 
switching out the carts and running a few prints to clear the lines?

Thanks,

Susan

PS-I've also posted this on  - Piezography3000

Go to ebay and look for an XRite 810 or similar
densitometer. Most of the "going out of business"
minilabs are selling such items at very very reduced
prices. You should be able to get one for 1/3 to 1/4
the price of an eye one.

Woody Spedden

--- susanfleck46227 <sfleck@...>
wrote:


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I have a 1280 with a CIS that I've been using for WN
PiezoTones and the 
images are very nice but the machine is slow and I'm
tired of dealing with the 
CIS.

I also have a 4000 and I'd like to switch to the K7
inkset on it. It sounds like, 
though, that there are no curves available for the
4000.  I can't justify afford a 
Gretag EyeOne spectrophotometer at this time. 

Does anyone know another way I could get a curve to
use with PhotoRag? I 
called IJM and they said they don't do that.

Also, I read that these inks could be installed in the
4000 without flushing. Do 
you think it is feasible to use the printer for both
color and K7 by simply 
switching out the carts and running a few prints to
clear the lines?

Thanks,

Susan

PS-I've also posted this on  - Piezography3000 




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MIS published a procedure for switching inksets on the 4000, but I  
don't know if it is applicable for UC to k7.  Should be OK if the UC/ 
k7 inks are compatible.  You could also just do purge prints until  
the lines/dampers have been flushed.  Does anyone know what the  
volume of ink is in the lines and dampers of the 4000?
http://www.inksupply.com/4000inkchange.cfm

On Aug 28, 2005, at 9:27 AM, susanfleck46227 wrote:

> I have a 1280 with a CIS that I've been using for WN PiezoTones and  
> the
> images are very nice but the machine is slow and I'm tired of  
> dealing with the
> CIS.
>
> I also have a 4000 and I'd like to switch to the K7 inkset on it.  
> It sounds like,
> though, that there are no curves available for the 4000.  I can't  
> justify afford a
> Gretag EyeOne spectrophotometer at this time.
>
> Does anyone know another way I could get a curve to use with  
> PhotoRag? I
> called IJM and they said they don't do that.
>
> Also, I read that these inks could be installed in the 4000 without  
> flushing. Do
> you think it is feasible to use the printer for both color and K7  
> by simply
> switching out the carts and running a few prints to clear the lines?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Susan



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Susan;

I don't know the exact volume of ink in the lines of that machine, 
but I measured the 7600 at about 20ml per damper/line. Even at half 
that, repeated switching would be time consuming and expensive. If 
you need to do both color and B&W your best choice might be to leave 
color inks (either UC or MIS equivalents with Eboni K) and run the 
B&W with QTR. There is a good selection of curves available for the 
4000, and you can make some pretty fair ones yourself without a 
densitometer. It wouldn't be as  smooth as the K7s but considering 
the fine dots and high dither available, you would still get some 
very good results. 

Steven Karafyllakis

--- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "susanfleck46227" 
<sfleck@f...> wrote:
> I have a 1280 with a CIS that I've been using for WN PiezoTones 
and the 
> images are very nice but the machine is slow and I'm tired of 
dealing with the 
> CIS.
> 
> I also have a 4000 and I'd like to switch to the K7 inkset on it. 
It sounds like, 
> though, that there are no curves available for the 4000.  I can't 
justify afford a 
> Gretag EyeOne spectrophotometer at this time. 
> 
> Does anyone know another way I could get a curve to use with 
PhotoRag? I 
> called IJM and they said they don't do that.
> 
> Also, I read that these inks could be installed in the 4000 
without flushing. Do 
> you think it is feasible to use the printer for both color and K7 
by simply 
> switching out the carts and running a few prints to clear the 
lines?

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Susan
> 
> PS-I've also posted this on  - Piezography3000

Susan,

The 4000 curves for Roy Harrington's QuadTone Rip for Piezography
Neutral K7 inks are 
nearing completion. Go sign up for the newsletter and you will be
notified, or fill out the 
survey on the bottom of the main K7 page (especially if you would
like to see a K6 set for 
the 1280). it may be slow, but....

http://www.inkjetmall.com/store/piezok7/piezography-neutral-k7.html

Jon Cone


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
"susanfleck46227" <sfleck@f...> 
wrote:
> I have a 1280 with a CIS that I've been using for WN PiezoTones and
the 
> images are very nice but the machine is slow and I'm tired of
dealing with the 
> CIS.
> 
> I also have a 4000 and I'd like to switch to the K7 inkset on it.
It sounds like, 
> though, that there are no curves available for the 4000.  I can't
justify afford a 
> Gretag EyeOne spectrophotometer at this time. 
> 
> Does anyone know another way I could get a curve to use with
PhotoRag? I 
> called IJM and they said they don't do that.
> 
> Also, I read that these inks could be installed in the 4000 without
flushing. Do 
> you think it is feasible to use the printer for both color and K7
by simply 

> switching out the carts and running a few prints to clear the lines?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Susan
> 
> PS-I've also posted this on  - Piezography3000