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Don't know if the link will survive forwarding- it's about Windows  
being able to run natively on the new Macs, with the release of  
Leopard.  Guys are doing it now with a more complicated hack.

James

More direct:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
mark

On Apr 5, 2006, at 3:42 PM, James Irelan wrote:

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> Don't know if the link will survive forwarding- it's about Windows
> being able to run natively on the new Macs, with the release of
> Leopard.  Guys are doing it now with a more complicated hack.
>
> James
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Thanks for that link.


I might just be running Studio Print before it's all over with. You
know Apple is smart, they might as well join them and act like it was
all their idea. With the new machines they aren't going to stop it anyway.

Apparently this windows situation doesn't require the dual core chip.
I know a guy who is already running XP on the new Apple laptop.

Now when the new version of Windows comes out that is supposed to look
a lot more like OSX, it will be an interesting world out there. 

John

It's starting to feel like what is the point for two different  
operating systems in the future.
Windows XPOSX?
Mark

On Apr 5, 2006, at 4:22 PM, john dean wrote:

> Now when the new version of Windows comes out that is supposed to look
> a lot more like OSX

The release made it clear that Apple has no plans to load Windows 
software on a Mac.  They have released software that will allow you to 
install your copy of Windows XP on a Mac running on an Intel chip.  
Furthermore, the two operating systems can only be run sequentially: 
you have to choose one or the other at startup and then reboot to 
switch.

Still, a major step.

Steve

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia 
<mark@...> wrote:
>
> It's starting to feel like what is the point for two different  
> operating systems in the future.
> Windows XPOSX?
> Mark
> 
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 4:22 PM, john dean wrote:
> 
> > Now when the new version of Windows comes out that is supposed to 
look
> > a lot more like OSX
>

I think Jobs is more interested in the music and video side of things,
that digitally is taking off like a rocket. There is a lot of money in
that stuff as the IPOD and video pods have shown them. Oh, yea Steve
and Disney, big money there, much more than OSX. They can design a
super fine laptop though, charge three times more for it and let those
who want exoticism pay for it. There will always be that high-end
market, for what it is.

john



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia
<mark@...> wrote:

>
> It's starting to feel like what is the point for two different  
> operating systems in the future.
> Windows XPOSX?
> Mark
> 
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 4:22 PM, john dean wrote:
> 
> > Now when the new version of Windows comes out that is supposed to look
> > a lot more like OSX
>

They didn't have any choice, people were already hacking into it.

john

> Still, a major step.
> 
> Steve
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia 
> <mark@> wrote:
> >
> > It's starting to feel like what is the point for two different  
> > operating systems in the future.
> > Windows XPOSX?
> > Mark
> > 
> > On Apr 5, 2006, at 4:22 PM, john dean wrote:
> > 
> > > Now when the new version of Windows comes out that is supposed to 
> look
> > > a lot more like OSX
> >
>

On Apr 5, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Stephen Kobrin wrote:

> The release made it clear that Apple has no plans to load Windows
> software on a Mac.  They have released software that will allow you to
> install your copy of Windows XP on a Mac running on an Intel chip.
> Furthermore, the two operating systems can only be run sequentially:
> you have to choose one or the other at startup and then reboot to
> switch.
>
> Still, a major step.

Right.  There are only a couple of apps that are Windows only that  
I'd like to have.  Unfortunately, while one of them could run on any  
$299 Windows box, the other one couldn't- it's a music app that would  
require a high quality machine.  While I'd have to buy a MacIntel,  
I'll wind up buying one eventually anyway, and this way I don't have  
to buy an additional pricey computer. I think it's a really cool step  
forward.  Better than something like Virtual PC which I considered in  
the past but rejected for the more computing intensive apps.

James

> 
> Right.  There are only a couple of apps that are Windows only that  
> I'd like to have.  Unfortunately, while one of them could run on any  
> $299 Windows box, the other one couldn't- it's a music app that would  
> require a high quality machine.  While I'd have to buy a MacIntel,  
> I'll wind up buying one eventually anyway, and this way I don't have  
> to buy an additional pricey computer. I think it's a really cool step  
> forward.  Better than something like Virtual PC which I considered in  
> the past but rejected for the more computing intensive apps.
> 
> James
>

As far as I can tell Apple did this for 2 main reasons:
1.  They always said they wouldn't prevent people from running Windows on Intel Macs.  I 
think they felt it was better to give people a clean way to do this than allow some ungodly 
hacks to be the only way.
2.  Those people who were thinking of switching to Macs but want to also run Windows 
apps now don't have that as an excuse (they may have other excuses but not that one).

Frankly, unless someone has Windows only apps there is NO overwhelming reason I can 
see to put it on a Intel Mac.  And those people who don't think there's a difference 
between OS X and Windows (which depends on Apple's innovation to provide ideas for 
their OS) should just stick with a Windows machine.

That's my take.

Angelo

This is even more interesting:

"Parallels released their Windows virtualization solution for the Intel Mac
today. The product is called Parallels Workstation 2.1 Beta and a free fully
functional copy is available for download now.

Unlike Apple's Boot Camp solution which was released yesterday, Parallels
solution allows you to run Windows XP (and other Intel-based operating
systems) from within Mac OS X. Rebooting or Dual Booting is not required.
This allows users to maintain their daily environment while also being able
to use any desired Windows applications. It is only available for the Intel
Macs and should provide near-native performance.

Parallels Workstation 2.1 Beta for Mac OS X is NOT simply a "dual-boot"
solution; rather, it empowers users the ability to use Windows, Linux and
any other operating system at the same time as Mac OS X, enabling users to
enjoy the comfort of their Mac OS X desktop while still being able to use
critical applications from other OSes.

Parallels appears to be taking advantage of the Intel Virtualization
Technology which was included in the Intel Yonah processors that are now
shipping in the Intel Macs.

While in free Beta testing at the moment, the final software package for
Linux and Windows is priced from the company at $49.99."

From http://www.macrumors.com/

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Daniel Staver
http://daniel.staver.no