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> 
> Thanks,
> Guhan
>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Keenan" <ausdlk@...>
To: <guruguhan@...>
Cc: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 1:39 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] RE: Anyone using digital negatives to make Platinum 
prints?


I have begun investigating making digital negs.

I am taking a palladium printing class in Europe this summer and want to 
take some enlarged negatives with me. I have no large format negatives and 
hope to enlarge some of my 35mm negs to take with me.

However, from what I have read so far it doesn't appear to be as simple as 
just "making negatives". It seems like it is all a coupled process -- that 
the negatives need to be "tuned" to the printing process.

At this point, I have no idea what this process is going to be.

Also, I have an Epson R2400 printer and have yet to find any info on how to 
use this printer to print on the Pictorico film material.

Obviously I have a lot to learn.

Dave.
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> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> Keenan
> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 12:39 PM
> To: guruguhan@...
> Cc: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] RE: Anyone using digital negatives to make Platinum
> prints?
> 
> I have begun investigating making digital negs.
> 
> I am taking a palladium printing class in Europe this summer and want to
> take some enlarged negatives with me. I have no large format negatives and
> hope to enlarge some of my 35mm negs to take with me.
> 
> However, from what I have read so far it doesn't appear to be as simple as
> just "making negatives". It seems like it is all a coupled process -- that
> the negatives need to be "tuned" to the printing process.
> 
> At this point, I have no idea what this process is going to be.
> 
> Also, I have an Epson R2400 printer and have yet to find any info on how
> to use this printer to print on the Pictorico film material.
> 
> Obviously I have a lot to learn.
> 
> Dave.
> --
> David Keenan, ausdlk@... on 4/9/2006
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Keenan" <ausdlk@...t>
To: <guruguhan@...>
Cc: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 1:39 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] RE: Anyone using digital negatives to make Platinum 
prints?


I have begun investigating making digital negs.

I am taking a palladium printing class in Europe this summer and want to 
take some enlarged negatives with me. I have no large format negatives and 
hope to enlarge some of my 35mm negs to take with me.

However, from what I have read so far it doesn't appear to be as simple as 
just "making negatives". It seems like it is all a coupled process -- that 
the negatives need to be "tuned" to the printing process.

At this point, I have no idea what this process is going to be.

Also, I have an Epson R2400 printer and have yet to find any info on how to 
use this printer to print on the Pictorico film material.

Obviously I have a lot to learn.

Dave.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of mark_roth_505
> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 8:34 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Anyone using digital negatives to
> make Platinum prints?
> 
> You should give Bostick & Sullivan, a call in Santa Fe, NM at
> 505-474-
> 0890. They are one of the best suppliers of Pt/Pd and other
> alt.
> supplies out there. You want to ask for Kevin Sullivan. He will
> talk
> to you as long as you want, and answer all your questions. I am
> fortunate enough to live just up the road from their office
> here in
> Santa Fe, and he really helped me tremendously in the
> beginning, but
> I understand Kevin is helpful to all who call him. The one
> thing you
> need to get is a dedicated printer for dye inks, because
> pigment inks
> do not stick to the Pictorico clear film for making digital
> negatives. I would get an Epson R220 for this purpose.  It
> takes a
> lot of trial/error and testing, and keeping notes, but once you
> get a
> formula figured out for your own ink/printer/lighting exposure
> system, you'll be making really nice Pt/Pd prints on a
> consistent
> basis, without a darkroom. Good luck.
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, G Guhan
> Gunaratnam <guruguhan@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I know this is a little OT, but not completely, so I was
> hoping
> someone
> > might want to chime in if they have experience making digital
> negs
> with an
> > inkjet/imagesetter and then making platinum prints with them.
> >
> > Please let me know on/off the board.  I'm reading Dan's book
> now,
> but I'm a
> > youngun and don't have a traditional darkroom.  That could
> change
> though
> > with prices as low as they are.
> >
> > Any insights, annoyances, wishes, etc with the process are
> appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Guhan
> >
> 
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john
> dean
> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 10:21 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] RE: Anyone using digital negatives to make
> Platinum prints?
> 
> I have had really first class results by making negs through Photoshop
> with the Pictorico film using Burkholders curves. www.danburkholder.com.
> 
> However that has been about 3 years ago and there is another
> alternative method that some swear by that is described in a book by
> Mark Nelson who contacted me about this a coupel of years ago. I have
> yet to try it. Too many irons in the fire. Here is the link-
> http://www.precisiondigitalnegatives.com/
> 
> You should be able to fine tune excellent negatives with either of
> these methods. Be sure to use good paper. For me that was the most
> important variable, using the paper designed expecially for
> plat/palladium printing.
> 
> John
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ann clancy" <jaclancy1937@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] RE: Anyone using digital negatives to make 
Platinum prints?


scott,

  these negatives for silver, do you contact print them?  The word is that 
enlarging digital  negatives doesn't work out .

  regards,
  ann

Scott Hendershot <nospam@...> wrote:
  I have not been making negatives for platinum but I have been doing inkjet
negatives for silver and I have to say they are better than I had imagined.
I started out several years ago with an epson 1200 hoping to make negatives
that I could print with and was terribly disappointed. Things have improved
considerably and the negs I am making with my 1280 are wonderful.

It is very much a tuned process. Since we are trying to make the best
possible prints it only makes sense that you would want to tune your negs to
the printing medium. I use a spectorphotometer to measure the densities in
the final prints and this makes it fairly easy to tune the negs.

Scott
www.scotthendershot.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Keenan" <ausdlk@...>
To: <guruguhan@...>
Cc: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 1:39 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] RE: Anyone using digital negatives to make Platinum
prints?


I have begun investigating making digital negs.

I am taking a palladium printing class in Europe this summer and want to
take some enlarged negatives with me. I have no large format negatives and
hope to enlarge some of my 35mm negs to take with me.

However, from what I have read so far it doesn't appear to be as simple as
just "making negatives". It seems like it is all a coupled process -- that
the negatives need to be "tuned" to the printing process.

At this point, I have no idea what this process is going to be.

Also, I have an Epson R2400 printer and have yet to find any info on how to
use this printer to print on the Pictorico film material.

Obviously I have a lot to learn.

Dave.
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