Digital BW, The Print

Scott..

    For me the answer has been a NEW 1280 Epson along with re-filling/re-setting MIS SPONGELESS CARTS with MIS UT-2 inks purchased in 4 oz (ECONOMICAL!) bottles for each of the 6 chambers....Personally I feel the results are stunning..You can use Paul Roark's workflow (FREE!) or  Harrington's QTR (about $50.. and WORTH IT!)..

     I had some cartridge problems early on , but those carts were replaced by MIS..Occasionally I do get a "clog", but it usually clears up with a few cleaning cycles..About every 6 months I need to clean the heads and the parking pad with some Windex, and that's about it!..BTW, I've been on this system for about 18 months.....I also have another 1280 set up for color, and I'm using the same type of carts/refill/re-set from MIS, but with LYSON Fotonic color inks..

  If you intend to print glossy/semi gloss on this 1280, you will need to remove the "pizza wheels" fromm the printer to prevent any scarring they may cause to the print surface..Easier to do than explain!

Check out MIS's website..I think you will find more answers there than I can give you here..
  
  

Eddie Wiseman

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: scottkathe1 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 8:48 AM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Printer for 11x14


  Hi,

  I have been using an Epson C86 with the MIS EZ inksets and have been
  quite happy with the results. I'd like to step up to a printer that
  will allow me to make 11x14s (or slightly larger). From what I
  understand the prime candidates for an inexpensive way to do this
  would be an older used Epson 2000P or a new 1280. Any thougths on how
  to do this inexpensively (read no 2400), with the least amout of clogging
  and good quality would be greatly appreciated.

  Scott



   

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Thanks for all the info so far. FYI the Epson Store has refurbed 1280s
for $169.10 with free shipping. Glossy isn't an issue for me since I
shoot mostly nature/landscape and find I like mat prints the most. So
far it sounds like people have had good experiences with the 1280. It
would be nice to hear from people who have had or have not had
problems with clogged heads using the MIS inksets so I can get an idea
of reliability. How does BO with MIS inks work out with the 1280?

Thanks again,

Scott

Hello Scott,

>far it sounds like people have had good experiences with the 1280. It
>would be nice to hear from people who have had or have not had
>problems with clogged heads using the MIS inksets so I can get an
>idea of reliability. 

The 1280 has been notorious for clogging.  Some people report few
clogging problems, but my sense of it (having been reading this forum
for around five years now) is that they are a small minority (I'd
guess one out of 10 or 15 if I had to give it a number).  Back when
the 1280 was the most commonly used desktop printer, a dominant theme
in this forum was clogging problems.



>How does BO with MIS inks work out with the 1280?

The 1280 produces excellent BO results.  If you want to do BO with a
1280, then keep the Epson dye inks in the other channels and just use
Eboni for the K.  That will greatly reduce potential clogging problems.

Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

Clayton,

Thanks for your statistics on the reliability of the 1280. If I had
50/50 odds of getting a good printer I might give it a shot but it
sounds like it would be really frustrating. 

The C86 with the MIS EZ inks works nicely but I'd really like to move
up to a 13" wide printer. I guess I should start thinking about the
2200, anyone want to sell a good working unit in mint shape for not
much money;)

Scott

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones"
<cj@...> wrote:

>
> Hello Scott,
> 
> >far it sounds like people have had good experiences with the 1280. It
> >would be nice to hear from people who have had or have not had
> >problems with clogged heads using the MIS inksets so I can get an
> >idea of reliability. 
> 
> The 1280 has been notorious for clogging.  Some people report few
> clogging problems, but my sense of it (having been reading this forum
> for around five years now) is that they are a small minority (I'd
> guess one out of 10 or 15 if I had to give it a number).  Back when
> the 1280 was the most commonly used desktop printer, a dominant theme
> in this forum was clogging problems.
> 
> 
> 
> >How does BO with MIS inks work out with the 1280?
> 
> The 1280 produces excellent BO results.  If you want to do BO with a
> 1280, then keep the Epson dye inks in the other channels and just use
> Eboni for the K.  That will greatly reduce potential clogging problems.
> 
> Regards,
> Clayton
> 
> 
> Info on black and white digital printing at    
> http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
>

At 04:35 AM Wednesday 1/10/2007, you wrote:
>I'd really like to move
>up to a 13" wide printer. I guess I should start thinking about the
>2200, anyone want to sell a good working unit in mint shape for not
>much money;)

I have a 2100 (the same but spelt differently) and am very pleased with the BW prints I get with UltraChrome inks and QTR ... no clogs - the occasional cleaning cycle or at most two, which are infrequent. And colour ability and infinite toning ability.

I can't see any metamerism with QTR prints either. 

Good luck - I'm sure there will be a 2100/2200 out there for you somewhere - it's a real workhorse.

Richard

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