Digital BW, The Print

Details of the planned September release of this paper in Germany are 
posted in our Files section, under the Paper Data folder. 

Provided courtesy of Bernd Langmack who lives in Essen, Germany and has 
kindly translated his communications with the company there.

Antonis

Folks,
many of us are curious about the new Hahnemuhle Photo Rag. 
Steadman and I had the opportunity to try some test samples 
and were excited by the overall print quality.
Both of us had the impression, that the color of the paper is very 
alike the color of  German Etching/Orwell.
Yesterday I got  my first package of the final paper and was 
surprised to find it much whiter than the test samples. It is nearly 
but not quite as white as Epson AM, just a bit wamer (EAM 
seems to have a bluish tint in direct comparison).

I called the Hahnemuhle guys and they told me that they dicided 
to make the paper whiter in the last minute because of many 
customer inquiries (so did I).
That means, the paper hasn´t been shipped to the US yet, but 
shipping will beginn soon.
I would recommend to order in advance, because in their old 
fashioned stile of paper production they can only make relatively 
small quantities if you compare it to the big factories. So 
resellers maybe sold out quickly.
Bernd, who is not a H. employee, but happens to speak German
; - )

Bernd,

Well this paper sounds like it could be the real deal for me. As I'm not
into the super cool papers, I'm not in love with Legions Photo Matte, which
aside form it's archival advantage, shows me no visible advantage over EAM
(slightly different, not better).

What is the weight/texture like of the HPR? It's not as smooth as EAM and
LPM is it? Is it's weight more like a William Turner, or German Etching?
Please don't tell me it's like the Conetech Matte (I forget the H. name for
it), thin with the back side feeling completely different than the coated
front....

What I'd like is just a non parchment version of Torchon. Is that so
difficult. ;-) It's bright enough, it's stiff enough, it's blacks are good -
If Hahnemuhle would just take it out of the waffle iron.... :*[

Todd

> Folks,
> many of us are curious about the new Hahnemuhle Photo Rag.
> Steadman and I had the opportunity to try some test samples
> and were excited by the overall print quality.
> Both of us had the impression, that the color of the paper is very
> alike the color of  German Etching/Orwell.
> Yesterday I got  my first package of the final paper and was
> surprised to find it much whiter than the test samples. It is nearly
> but not quite as white as Epson AM, just a bit wamer (EAM
> seems to have a bluish tint in direct comparison).
> 
> I called the Hahnemuhle guys and they told me that they dicided
> to make the paper whiter in the last minute because of many
> customer inquiries (so did I).
> That means, the paper hasn´t been shipped to the US yet, but
> shipping will beginn soon.
> I would recommend to order in advance, because in their old
> fashioned stile of paper production they can only make relatively
> small quantities if you compare it to the big factories. So
> resellers maybe sold out quickly.
> Bernd, who is not a H. employee, but happens to speak German
> ; - )
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> The Group Homepage can be found at:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
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Speaking of Torchon I have noticed a huge amount of warm up in the 
prints. It seems to take several days if not weeks and the rather 
neutral prints I made on it 2 weeks ago are now among the warmest 
PiezoBW prints I have made.

Since I prefer a more neutral tone, Torchon is rapidly sliding off my 
favorite's list.

Anyone else seeing this?

Martin


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Michael J. Kravit" 
<kravit@b...> wrote:
> Todd wrote:
>   >>What I'd like is just a non parchment version of Torchon. Is 
that so
>   >>difficult. ;-) It's bright enough, it's stiff enough, it's 
blacks are good -
>   >>If Hahnemuhle would just take it out of the waffle iron.... :*[
>    
>   Now wouldn't that be sweet. I could print with only one paper. I 
would buy a closet full to ensure a lifelong supply!

> 
>   How about it Hannemuhle, Torchon 285 w/o the texture!
> 
>   Mike
> 
> 
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley" 
<mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> Speaking of Torchon... 

Martin,

I just pulled a 17"x22" landscape made 2 months ago on Torchon. I 
reprinted it on 8.5x11 to check for warming. None evident.

Mike

Todd wrote:
  >>What I'd like is just a non parchment version of Torchon. Is that so
  >>difficult. ;-) It's bright enough, it's stiff enough, it's blacks are good -
  >>If Hahnemuhle would just take it out of the waffle iron.... :*[
   
  Now wouldn't that be sweet. I could print with only one paper. I would buy a closet full to ensure a lifelong supply!

  How about it Hannemuhle, Torchon 285 w/o the texture!

  Mike


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I have been using HPR but I was hoping for better results than I am getting, either B&W's or Color. 

I print with an Epson 2200 and use Win XP. I have been using the Matte Black Ink when printing B&W's and am using the Photorealistic Mode settings as described at Luminous Landscape.

I am curious to know what settings have worked well for others when using HPR. 

Peter 


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I am new to QTR and have been playing with different papers.  I am OS 10.26 
using epson 2200.  I have downloaded soft proofing files which include "HPR" 
profiles.  When I go to QTR settings there are only premier fine art ...enh 
matte...and oriental.  I have been using epson enhanced matte setting ...am I 
doing this right?  Is there a "HPR" paper settings out there that I should be 
using??  How do I add different papers to the QTR settings pull down?

Eric