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Eboni-6 with the Epson 2100.

Has anyone had any experience of using this combination ? Will it work ?

My initial intention was to use the Eboni-6 in my old 1290 which had been used with Piezo 
but this now seems to be irretrievably 
blocked.

Looked at getting a new 1400 for dedicated B&W with Eboni but am put off by adverse 
comments that have been made on the flakey paper transport

Views and advice greatly appreciated

<arthur.krick2@...> wrote:
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> Eboni-6 with the Epson 2100.
> 
> Has anyone had any experience of using this combination ? 
> Will it work ?

I have Carbon-6 in my 2200, and it works fine.  It's about the same 
as Eboni-6.  One caviate is that I specified LK = M in the mix.  This 
is fine with the Epson driver, which is what I usually use (with a 
QTR ICC), but the QTR rip probably cannot partition a set of inks 
where there are 2 with the same density.  So, I've experimented with 
other density arrangements.

However, what I've found is that with k2 and k3 printers -- if not 
most when using the QTR rip -- they are best set up with 2 different 
profiles that use sub-sets of the inks.  The second lightest (Eb6-LM) 
ink is light enough to be a starting ink in the second profile, but 
you can use some of the same inks in both.  Both profiles will have K 
as the final.  So, one profile could use, for example, Y, LC, LK, C, 
K, and the second Y, LM, M, K.  The idea is to have different 
crossovers and multiple inks printing at the same time.  When 
printing, use the sliders in QTR to use both profiles.  In effect, I 
don't recommend what I'd call a single, serial partitioning.  Rather, 
2 parallel partitions in 2 profiles makes for a smoother print.


> 
> Looked at getting a new 1400 for dedicated B&W with Eboni 
> but am put off by adverse 
> comments that have been made on the flakey paper transport

My 1400 does a good -- actually superior -- job feeding paper up to 
and including H. Photo Rag 308.  With 325 gsm Premier Art it's 
problematic.  At least the 1400 I have does have a different pre-feed 
system -- it just shots the paper through the printer.  So, pre-
feeding paper just does not work.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Paul, 

thank you for your full explanation in response to my question re 2100/2200 & 
Eboni-6.

In view of what you say, maybe I should discount the reservations I've acquired about 
poterntial paper feed problems on the 1400 and go that route with the full Eboni-6 inkset.  

 I'm looking for it to be a dedicated B&W printer and certainly, the smoothness of tone that 
you have demonstrated with this set up would be my ideal.

Arthur

For my current tastes, a competitively priced, 1.5 pl hextone printer 
like the 1400 seems like a good deal for 100% carbon pigment 
printing.  

With Eboni-6, these 1.5 pl printers are about one Lab B unit warmer 
than the older 3+ pl units.

On the other hand, the ability to print reasonably smooth 100% Eboni, 
however, allows much more neutral printing, bringing in the entire 
range of the 3-MK 1800 approach.  I particularl like the un-
brightened papers with Eboni black only.  See 
http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R1800-No-OBA-Paper.pdf 

Being able to mix the characteristics of the dilute Eboni-6 approach -
- http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R1800-No-OBA-Paper.pdf -- with the 
3-MK/BO (via QTR) workflow makes for a more flexible inkset.  The 
tonal range expands, the paper range expands, and we get control over 
the random "grain" or noise level, which can be useful.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com  

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<arthur.krick2@...> wrote:

>
> Paul, 
> 
> thank you for your full explanation in response to my 
> question re 2100/2200 & Eboni-6.
> 
> In view of what you say, maybe I should discount the 
> reservations I've acquired about 
> poterntial paper feed problems on the 1400 and go that 
> route with the full Eboni-6 inkset.  
> 
>  I'm looking for it to be a dedicated B&W printer and
> certainly, the smoothness of tone that 
> you have demonstrated with this set up would be my ideal.
> 
> Arthur
>