Doepfer

I have two 5V Low-Cost Adapters (A-100AD5). I have previously used them 
with A-113 and A-190 installed in separate A-100G6 cabinets.

Now I am going to put A-113 and A-190 into same cabinet. Looking at the 
power consumption figures it appears, that two A-100AD5 are still 
needed. Just to make to make sure, I would like to ask, how should the 
A-100AD5:s be installed, when
- A-113 and A-190 are in the same row/power rail.
- A-113 and A-190 are in different rows.

Jari Jokinen

hello chuck,

only one ad5 is allowed per row.
as long as the total 5 volts consumption of the modules
doesn't exceed 100ma you can use more than 1 module
with the ad5. in the example below (a113 and a190)
the 5 volts consumption is 150 ma, therefore you need
two ad5.

best wishes

ingo



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "charles graef" 
<vogelscheiss@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I'm confused -- you're saying that the A-100AD5 will only 
permit one
> 5V module in the row in which it's installed?
> 
> --Chuck
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of hardware@...
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:12 AM
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] 5V Low-Cost Adapter questions
> 
> > I have two 5V Low-Cost Adapters (A-100AD5). I have previously 
used them
> > with A-113 and A-190 installed in separate A-100G6 cabinets.
> >
> > Now I am going to put A-113 and A-190 into same cabinet. Looking 
at the
> > power consumption figures it appears, that two A-100AD5 are still
> > needed. Just to make to make sure, I would like to ask, how 
should the
> > A-100AD5:s be installed, when
> > - A-113 and A-190 are in the same row/power rail.
> 
> Sorry, that's not possible as only one A-100AD5 is allowed for each 
bus
> board.
> 
> > - A-113 and A-190 are in different rows.
> 
> That's the right solution. Simple connect one A-100AD5 on each bus 
board.

> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>

> I have two 5V Low-Cost Adapters (A-100AD5). I have previously used them
> with A-113 and A-190 installed in separate A-100G6 cabinets.
>
> Now I am going to put A-113 and A-190 into same cabinet. Looking at the
> power consumption figures it appears, that two A-100AD5 are still
> needed. Just to make to make sure, I would like to ask, how should the
> A-100AD5:s be installed, when
> - A-113 and A-190 are in the same row/power rail.

Sorry, that's not possible as only one A-100AD5 is allowed for each bus
board.

> - A-113 and A-190 are in different rows.

That's the right solution. Simple connect one A-100AD5 on each bus board.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Thank you for the quick replies.

Best regards
Jari Jokinen

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander 
<Florian.Anwander@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
> 
> one could add a larger cooling device to the regulator, but I 
assume 
> this would cause mechanical problem in transport (too much mass).
> 
> Florian
> 
> selfoscillate wrote:
> > hello chuck,
> > 
> > only one ad5 is allowed per row.
> > as long as the total 5 volts consumption of the modules
> > doesn't exceed 100ma you can use more than 1 module
> > with the ad5. in the example below (a113 and a190)
> > the 5 volts consumption is 150 ma, therefore you need
> > two ad5.
> > 
> > best wishes
> > 
> > ingo
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "charles graef" 
> > <vogelscheiss@> wrote:
> > 
> >>Sorry, I'm confused -- you're saying that the A-100AD5 will only 
> > 
> > permit one
> > 
> >>5V module in the row in which it's installed?
> >>
> >>--Chuck
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
> > 
> > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] On
> > 
> >>Behalf Of hardware@
> >>Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:12 AM
> >>To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> >>Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] 5V Low-Cost Adapter questions
> >>
> >>
> >>>I have two 5V Low-Cost Adapters (A-100AD5). I have previously 
> > 
> > used them
> > 
> >>>with A-113 and A-190 installed in separate A-100G6 cabinets.
> >>>
> >>>Now I am going to put A-113 and A-190 into same cabinet. Looking 
> > 
> > at the
> > 
> >>>power consumption figures it appears, that two A-100AD5 are still
> >>>needed. Just to make to make sure, I would like to ask, how 
> > 
> > should the
> > 
> >>>A-100AD5:s be installed, when
> >>>- A-113 and A-190 are in the same row/power rail.
> >>
> >>Sorry, that's not possible as only one A-100AD5 is allowed for 
each 
> > 
> > bus
> > 
> >>board.
> >>
> >>
> >>>- A-113 and A-190 are in different rows.
> >>
> >>That's the right solution. Simple connect one A-100AD5 on each 
bus 
> > 
> > board.
> > 
> >>Best wishes
> >>Dieter Doepfer
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Florian Anwander                  |ConSol
> Tel.   +49(89)45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software 
GmbH
> Fax    +49(89)45841-111           |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 
München
> email: florian.anwander@... |http://www.consol.de
>

Sorry, I'm confused -- you're saying that the A-100AD5 will only permit one
5V module in the row in which it's installed?

--Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of hardware@doepfer.de
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:12 AM
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] 5V Low-Cost Adapter questions

> I have two 5V Low-Cost Adapters (A-100AD5). I have previously used them
> with A-113 and A-190 installed in separate A-100G6 cabinets.
>
> Now I am going to put A-113 and A-190 into same cabinet. Looking at the
> power consumption figures it appears, that two A-100AD5 are still
> needed. Just to make to make sure, I would like to ask, how should the
> A-100AD5:s be installed, when
> - A-113 and A-190 are in the same row/power rail.

Sorry, that's not possible as only one A-100AD5 is allowed for each bus
board.

> - A-113 and A-190 are in different rows.

That's the right solution. Simple connect one A-100AD5 on each bus board.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

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Hi

one could add a larger cooling device to the regulator, but I assume 
this would cause mechanical problem in transport (too much mass).

Florian

selfoscillate wrote:
> hello chuck,
> 
> only one ad5 is allowed per row.
> as long as the total 5 volts consumption of the modules
> doesn't exceed 100ma you can use more than 1 module
> with the ad5. in the example below (a113 and a190)
> the 5 volts consumption is 150 ma, therefore you need
> two ad5.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> ingo
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "charles graef" 
> <vogelscheiss@...> wrote:
> 
>>Sorry, I'm confused -- you're saying that the A-100AD5 will only 
> 
> permit one
> 
>>5V module in the row in which it's installed?
>>
>>--Chuck
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
> 
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] On
> 
>>Behalf Of hardware@...
>>Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:12 AM
>>To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] 5V Low-Cost Adapter questions
>>
>>
>>>I have two 5V Low-Cost Adapters (A-100AD5). I have previously 
> 
> used them
> 
>>>with A-113 and A-190 installed in separate A-100G6 cabinets.
>>>
>>>Now I am going to put A-113 and A-190 into same cabinet. Looking 
> 
> at the
> 
>>>power consumption figures it appears, that two A-100AD5 are still
>>>needed. Just to make to make sure, I would like to ask, how 
> 
> should the
> 
>>>A-100AD5:s be installed, when
>>>- A-113 and A-190 are in the same row/power rail.
>>
>>Sorry, that's not possible as only one A-100AD5 is allowed for each 
> 
> bus
> 
>>board.
>>
>>
>>>- A-113 and A-190 are in different rows.
>>
>>That's the right solution. Simple connect one A-100AD5 on each bus 
> 
> board.
> 
>>Best wishes
>>Dieter Doepfer
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Florian Anwander                  |ConSol
Tel.   +49(89)45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software GmbH
Fax    +49(89)45841-111           |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 München
email: florian.anwander@consol.de |http://www.consol.de

>> - A-113 and A-190 are in the same row/power rail.

> Sorry, that's not possible as only one A-100AD5 is allowed for each 
bus board.

Hmm... I guess I could still put both A-113 and A-190 into (say) the 
upper row, if I get power for the other module from the lower bus board 
(with a longer cable, if needed). Or is there something wrong with that?

This lots really interesting---can any members give me a review

thanks in advance
David

http://www.doepfer.de/a107.htm

Sorry poorly worded question before
is the quality of the A-107  module good compared to Oberheim Matrix  
12 which sounded a bit to thin amd digital to my ears

thanks David



On 15/12/2007, at 8:59 AM, David Bulog wrote:

> This lots really interesting---can any members give me a review
>
> thanks in advance
> David



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

How much better is the High-End VCO compared to the standard

thanks David

this depends on what you think of as "better".

the 111 is somewhat cleaner sounding and can be used at higher  
frequencies more reliably. it features soft-sync and linear FM (but  
you can "hack" a 110 to sport these features too, they're available  
on the PCB). the 110 on the other hand has a higher output level and  
a rougher sound, which can result in more "phat" at times.
personally i'm quite happy to have both in my rack.

On 15. Dec 2007, at 2:18 AM, David Bulog wrote:

> How much better is the High-End VCO compared to the standard
>
> thanks David
>
>
> 



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

IMO, pwm in the hi freq. ranges sounds much sweeter with the A-111

For the rest, the differences apear not that great to me.





--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, David Bulog <d2ba@...> wrote:

>
> How much better is the High-End VCO compared to the standard
> 
> thanks David
>

> as long as the total 5 volts consumption of the modules
> doesn't exceed 100ma you can use more than 1 module
> with the ad5. 

If I get this right I can use an A-190 en A-191 (total powercons. 100 
mA) on one ad5 adapter without problems?

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "magneteyez" <ezmire@...> wrote:
>
> 
> > as long as the total 5 volts consumption of the modules
> > doesn't exceed 100ma you can use more than 1 module
> > with the ad5. 
> 
> If I get this right I can use an A-190 en A-191 (total powercons. 
100 
> mA) on one ad5 adapter without problems?


yes, thats how i have it in my system and it works perfectly.

best wishes

ingo

HI David

> Sorry poorly worded question before
> is the quality of the A-107  module good compared to Oberheim Matrix  
> 12 which sounded a bit to thin amd digital to my ears
The filter itself is similar, but not completely identical. The 
 
                                           "weakness" of the Matrix was 
determined also by the DCOs, whilest the A100 always works with VCOs and 
software-envelopes.

Florian

I kinda agree, if you don't like the M12/Xpander, you may not like the 107.
I didn't care for my Xpander too much--at least for the price and space...
and same for the 107, it does a lot has a lot of potential of course, but
just didn't like it's sound either.  It's not bad, but, to many filters I'd
prefer over it.
best,
phil

On 12/14/07 5:14 PM, "David Bulog" <d2ba@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

> http://www.doepfer.de/a107.htm
> 
> Sorry poorly worded question before
> is the quality of the A-107  module good compared to Oberheim Matrix
> 12 which sounded a bit to thin amd digital to my ears
> 
> thanks David

Hi is there any documentation that tells you a safe way to unplug  
modules
apart from earthing yourself the ribbon cable connection to the bus  
looks quite tricky--how do I safety unplug and plug back in

thanks in advance
Dave

hello Florian,
the A100 always works with software- envelopes?
Florian, you must have been thinking of something
else, obviously...    :-)

best regards,
Bakis.


--- Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>
wrote:

> HI David
> 
> > Sorry poorly worded question before
> > is the quality of the A-107  module good compared
> to Oberheim Matrix  
> > 12 which sounded a bit to thin amd digital to my
> ears
> The filter itself is similar, but not completely
> identical. The 
>  
>                                           
> "weakness" of the Matrix was 
> determined also by the DCOs, whilest the A100 always
> works with VCOs and 
> software-envelopes.
> 
> Florian
> 


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> > as long as the total 5 volts consumption of the modules
> > doesn't exceed 100ma you can use more than 1 module
> > with the ad5. 
> 
> If I get this right I can use an A-190 en A-191 (total powercons. 100 
> mA) on one ad5 adapter without problems?

Yes.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

> > Sorry, that's not possible as only one A-100AD5 is allowed for each 
> bus board.
> 
> Hmm... I guess I could still put both A-113 and A-190 into (say) the 
> upper row, if I get power for the other module from the lower bus board 
> (with a longer cable, if needed). Or is there something wrong with that?

That's possible as this module then belongs to the other bus board.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

> Hi is there any documentation that tells you a safe way to unplug modules
> apart from earthing yourself the ribbon cable connection to the bus
> looks quite tricky--how do I safety unplug and plug back in
>
> thanks in advance
> Dave

www.doepfer.com > MANUALS > A-100 Introduction (A100_intro_e.pdf) > page 4-5

Best regards
Dieter Doepfer

Hi Bakis



 >>The filter itself is similar, but not completely
 >>identical. The
 >>"weakness" of the Matrix was
 >>determined also by the DCOs, whilest the A100 always
 >>works with VCOs and
 >>software-envelopes.
 > the A100 always works with software- envelopes?
 > Florian, you must have been thinking of something
 > else, obviously...    :-)

You are right; it should read like:
"The 'weakness' of the Matrix was determined also by the DCOs (whilest 
the A100 always works with VCOs) and by its software-envelopes."

Florian