Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] convert inkjet printer into wax printer
2013-08-15 by Rick Watson
I m more interested in starting with putting down a resist, then normal etch from there. What s the finest PLA or ABS line the extruders in use today will put
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RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] convert inkjet printer into wax printer
2013-08-15 by Malcolm Parker-Lisberg
Rick Did a very similar thing 20 years ago using DuPont and Acheson polymer thick film inks. Malcolm I don t suffer from insanity I enjoy it! Mene, mene,
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-15 by Malcolm Parker-Lisberg
Rick A while ago I had some samples of Auxetic foam gasket material that I used on a pumping system. It is peculiar stuff in that if you stretch it it grows in
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] convert inkjet printer into wax printer
2013-08-15 by Rick Sparber
Jeff, No straight answer here. What resolution would you want? From Solidoodle, one 3D printer company: Precision: . The resolution of the printed part is
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] silver coating
2013-08-15 by Sam Rod
I think you meant silver lining? ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] silver coating
2013-08-15 by Kerry Wentworth
Silver coating? Have you checked the cloud? ;) Kerry
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] silver coating
2013-08-15 by James Sleeman
... That page lists the components as * 0.5g Stannous Chloride * 2.0g Thiourea * 3.0g Sulfamic Acid * 100.0 mL Distilled water and further down that the
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] convert inkjet printer into wax printer
2013-08-15 by Mark Lerman
Jeff, I think the actual resolution of the xy mechanism is more than adequate. The nozzle is .4 mm, but they say you can print walls half the nozzle size, so
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] convert inkjet printer into wax printer
2013-08-15 by Jeff Heiss
What kind of resolution can a 3D printer achieve? Would the resolution be enough for PCBs? Jeff ... From: Mark Lerman Sent: Thursday,
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] silver coating
2013-08-15 by Malcolm Parker-Lisberg
Make your own tin electroless tin plating solution, see: All chemicals
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] silver coating
2013-08-15 by <n0tt1@...>
For small boards I have used a solder and iron to coat all the traces, then heated the entire board to melt the solder then quickly used a cloth to wipe the
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-15 by WILLIAM W WINTERS Owner
No mistakes. Just one question. ... From: Rick Sparber To: Homebrew PCBs Sent: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:07:28
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] silver coating
2013-08-15 by Harvey White
... The liquid tin that I use (MG chemicals) will last about a year s production of boards, so the cost per board is not horrible. The same size board
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] convert inkjet printer into wax printer
2013-08-15 by Mark Lerman
Silver inks are expensive, but copper inks are much less expensive and are available commercially. Multiple layers are readily achieved with a 3D printer. The
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-15 by Rick Sparber
Malcolm, My original goal was to do the process with commonly found materials like parchment paper. But when I gave up on that approach and went with the China
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-15 by Rick Sparber
Once I got into my shop I realized that the wax paper would stop any acetone vapor or even liquid. So I went with plan B and clamped the artwork with a hose
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] convert inkjet printer into wax printer
2013-08-15 by Rick Sparber
Mark, Sounds like removal is not an issue. How liquid tight would the 3D mask be? Given that a 3D printer gives us a third dimension to the mask, I wonder what
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] convert inkjet printer into wax printer
2013-08-15 by Mark Lerman
Rick, A heated bed is no real problem - I built one that works pretty well. But I m not sure the wax won t stick to the copper directly. I hadn t thought
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] convert inkjet printer into wax printer
2013-08-15 by Rick Sparber
Mark, Using a 3D printer to apply a mask is an interesting idea. I think the PCB would have to be kept warm so the plastic sticks. After etching, how would you
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] convert inkjet printer into wax printer
2013-08-15 by Mark Lerman
I spent a lot of time both with a Phaser wax printer and with direct printing of resist using an Epson printer. While wax is a great resist, the Phaser was
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] silver coating
2013-08-15 by James
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-YL6VmXvW8 ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] silver coating
2013-08-15 by lists
In article , ... I suspect it will always remain expensive because of the price of Tin. -- *Plain Text* email -- it s an accessibility
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] silver coating
2013-08-15 by Rick Sparber
Dave, This works for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS62rik7eWA Rick ... From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] On
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] silver coating
2013-08-15 by Eddie Stassen
I have had this bookmarked for years now, but have never got around to trying it:-
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] silver coating
2013-08-15 by Rick Watson
Amazon and Mouser also have MG chemicals 421 Liquid Tin. It solders fine for me. It is hazardous.
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] silver coating
2013-08-15 by Jan Kok
Tinnit is available on Amazon of all places. They seem to be selling a lot of hobbyist electronics stuff recently. $6.90 + $5.15 shipping. That s enough to
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] silver coating
2013-08-15 by Stefan Trethan
I ve seen recipes for tinnit, they all contained thiourea. Nasty stuff so I didn t follow up on it. The other option is hot tinning, you can use either solder
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] silver coating
2013-08-15 by David Pickering
Hi Thanks for the quick response See what I mean by price, if you start using that then just as well buy ready made PCBs and forget DIY Lets see if theirs
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] silver coating
2013-08-15 by James
... There is basically that (tinnit, liquidtin), and a product called Cool Amp http://www.cool-amp.com/cool_amp.html I ve never found any reasonable home
silver coating
2013-08-15 by David
Hi Do any of you people here know of a quick and cheap way to tin copper PCB tracks before populating the board? With all the modern chemicals around these
convert inkjet printer into wax printer
2013-08-15 by Jeff Heiss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfCatc1HieE This gentleman turned an inkjet printer into a wax printer. He removed the ink reservoir and attached a heated
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-14 by Rick Sparber
Mark, Excellent idea! I m on it. Thanks, Rick ... From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Lerman Sent:
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-14 by Pict
I don t think you indicate what diameter of pipe but how about trying the following: (1) Tack the artwork to the pipe with some magic tape. (2) Get some
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-14 by Harvey White
... Tape the artwork to the copper, with something to keep it from twisting (tape on outsides?) Heat and roll against pressure. Let cool. May work. Harvey
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-14 by Mark Lerman
Rick, You might want to try using an acetone vapor chamber. Wrap the toner around the pipe, perhaps taping it to the pipe, then let it sit in acetone vapor for
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-14 by Rick Sparber
Lee, Thanks for the offer. I would certainly like to try the material out. I ve had excellent results from the wax paper from China when used with my
Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-14 by Terry
I just spent the weekend plus the last 2 days trying, and re-trying several diy pcb methods...toner transfer, using HP Presentation Paper, which I had used
Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-14 by James Newton
Thank you Rick. I ve added it to the Media list at: http://techref.massmind.org/techref/tonertransfer.htm ... SEE HOW NICE IT IS TO NOT HAVE THAT HUGE
Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-14 by studleylee
Hey Rick, (this is Lee Studley ), I bought a full roll of this stuff if you would like to play with some. I haven t tried it yet but it got good press for
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-14 by Malcolm Parker-Lisberg
Rick Confirmed. I use this paper for all my toner transfer PCBs and brass plate nameplates, but was soaking in water with detergent and dishwasher rinse aid
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-14 by Rick Sparber
Malcolm, Thanks for the picture. Just to verify - you are able to deposit toner on this paper, thermally transfer it to copper, and then etch the copper? Rick
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-14 by Malcolm Parker-Lisberg
Rick I added a photo of the wrapper of the pond shop inkjet photo paper I use to my folder, see:
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-14 by Rick Sparber
Thanks Malcolm ... From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Parker-Lisberg Sent: Tuesday, August 13,
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-13 by Malcolm Parker-Lisberg
Rick Will take a photo of the package and post it tomorrow, as it has gone midnight here. Malcolm I don t suffer from insanity I enjoy it! Mene, mene, tekel,
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-13 by Rick Sparber
Malcolm, Can you be more specific on the paper you used? Thanks, Rick ... From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-13 by Malcolm Parker-Lisberg
Rick I have had equal success using ink jet photo paper from our local pound shop. It is a heavy weight paper, 10 sheets for one UK pound, and the toner
RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-13 by Rick Sparber
James, This is what I bought: http://www.ebay.com/itm/A4-10Pcs-Sheets-Heat-Toner-Transfer-Paper-For-DIY-PC B-Electronic-Prototype-Mak-/170900415631 Rick ...
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-12 by Rick Sparber
David, I have one more challenge before I can rest: toner transfer to a cylinder. Then I can cut off a 1/4 length of copper pipe, press fit it around a steel
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Printing of replica of PCB on paper
2013-08-12 by David Pickering
Hi Jim Interesting reading Me and a group of friends have back engineered for quite sometime now with some success Biggest problem we come up with these days
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-08-12 by David Pickering
Hi Rick Just got back from holiday Nice to here you had success If your gettng away with 15 mins in the freezer then all the better. Did a quick PCB for a