Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

Hello,

Perhaps this is not related specifically to the Fireface, but I have a
routing dilemma.

On the fireface I am using 8 analog ins, 8 ADAT ins, & 8 ADAT outs.

When I load Logic, I only have 16 ins available tracks 1-16.

The fireface is setup so inputs 1-8 are analog, 9-10 SPDIF, 11-18 ADAT in

However, in Logic, tracks 17-18 are grayed out.

Possible solution #1: I have tried (using the Fireface patchbay
(matrix)) to reroute the ADAT in to 9-16.
Possible solution #2: The other option is to tell logic to see more
audio tracks.

How does Logic determine # of Audio Tracks allowed, why are some
grayed out?  Is the RME driver telling Logic how many inputs?  Is
Logic getting the number from what it thinks the Computer can handle?


derby

> How does Logic determine # of Audio Tracks allowed, why are some
> grayed out?
> 

Go to the audio preferences, and you can set the number of tracks there, 
along with the 16/24 bit, etc.


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HEY EVERYONE, I have previously left message's similar to this one  
but the point is still an extremely relevant one to me, so any and  
all help would be greatly appreciated (i guess thats the main reason  
I joined anyway). Basically heres my situation in a nutshell, I am  
very new to computer based music production, I own logic express 7.1  
and an imac G5 as well as some analog gear, my decks, giant  
collection of beloved records, plus a genuine need to express myself  
musically. The major problem is I am having a very hard time getting  
started, in logic and in how to use plug ins, the best gear I should  
purchase (on a budget, but also hate buying shit gear because of the  
price), and basically I need to start learning buy trial and error  
but don't know where to start. I am interested many different genres  
of music but when it comes to writing it, mainly drum and bass, and  
hip hop. It has been suggested to me before to get the DVD tutorial  
for logic as a starting point, my question is it worth the money that  
could be used on buying gear or software, or is there somewhere on  
the net it can be downloaded or something of that nature?? I have  
been reading loads and loads on the net and understand generally all  
the terms, but sometimes get outdated advice or conflicting advice.  
2nd, what MIDI keyboard should I  get? I want something with ease of  
use, computers already confuse me enough so I want to start using the  
keyboard with the least amount of headaches... my top consideration  
has been the Novation remoteXL or some the M.Audio gear namely the  
Axion, any suggestions here? 3rd software plug ins, where do i start?  
need some sick synth sounds, so the moog and papen soft synths  
interrogate me, MOSTLY I AM CONFUSED ABOUT, soft samplers... I know  
logic comes with a nice one, have read extensively about NI Kontack  
2, as well as several others, my question is how do you take samples  
with a soft sampler. Should i sample them with my SU700 than transfer  
them into garageband, convert to .wav then import into soft sampler,  
or is there an easier less time consuming method. Also after I do  
take the samples how do I start grooving them into logic, like  
basically how do I write a drum track, loop.. record then start  
layering other sounds, this is also a complete mystery to me. I have  
many many other questions, but will keep it at these for the time:  
were do I start with logic.. 2. what keyboard/audio interface should  
I get.. 3.  plug ins/VST/and mostly soft-samplers...4. again how to  
start writing, even if shit at 1st, i need to start making music  
again.. TAHNK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AS A FELLOW MUSICIAN I KNOW HOW  
PRESSED FOR TIME WE ALL ARE, AND ANSWERING A BEGINNERS QUESTION IS  
NOT ON THE PRIORITY LIST, BUT PLEASE HELP ANYONE. GOOD KARMA WILL  
FOLLOW, BECAUSE I LOVE MUSIC, IT IS MY LIFE I JUST NEED SOME COMPUTER  
BASED PRODUCTION HELP.
THANK YOU.
peace, advanced
On Aug 14, 2006, at 12:58 PM, derby wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Perhaps this is not related specifically to the Fireface, but I have a
> routing dilemma.
>
> On the fireface I am using 8 analog ins, 8 ADAT ins, & 8 ADAT outs.
>
> When I load Logic, I only have 16 ins available tracks 1-16.
>
> The fireface is setup so inputs 1-8 are analog, 9-10 SPDIF, 11-18  
> ADAT in
>
> However, in Logic, tracks 17-18 are grayed out.
>
> Possible solution #1: I have tried (using the Fireface patchbay
> (matrix)) to reroute the ADAT in to 9-16.
> Possible solution #2: The other option is to tell logic to see more
> audio tracks.
>
> How does Logic determine # of Audio Tracks allowed, why are some
> grayed out? Is the RME driver telling Logic how many inputs? Is
> Logic getting the number from what it thinks the Computer can handle?
>
> derby
>
> 



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I have the Axiom 25 and it fits on the desk behind the alphanumeric 
keyboard quite nicely. In general, I would go simple, and gradually get 
more complicated. I wouldn't buy a bunch of extra software until you 
actually need it. Logic gives a pretty comprehenisive overall solution. 
I would suggest the Apple training guide for Logic, and the books by 
Len Sasso and Robert Bennet. I have not seen the DVD, but it would 
probably be helpful too. Remember the main purpose is to make music, 
not to accumulate musical gear.

-----Original Message-----
From: advanced2@...
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:34 PM
Subject: [Logic_Cafe] MUSIC HEAD LOOKING FOR ADVICE AND SOME 
DIRECTION..PLEASE HELP!!

            HEY EVERYONE, I have previously left message's similar to 
this one
 but the point is still an extremely relevant one to me, so any and
 all help would be greatly appreciated (i guess thats the main reason
 I joined anyway). Basically heres my situation in a nutshell, I am
 very new to computer based music production, I own logic express 7.1
 and an imac G5 as well as some analog gear, my decks, giant
 collection of beloved records, plus a genuine need to express myself
 musically. The major problem is I am having a very hard time getting
 started, in logic and in how to use plug ins, the best gear I should
 purchase (on a budget, but also hate buying shit gear because of the
 price), and basically I need to start learning buy trial and error
 but don't know where to start. I am interested many different genres
 of music but when it comes to writing it, mainly drum and bass, and
 hip hop. It has been suggested to me before to get the DVD tutorial
 for logic as a starting point, my question is it worth the money that
 could be used on buying gear or software, or is there somewhere on
 the net it can be downloaded or something of that nature?? I have
 been reading loads and loads on the net and understand generally all
 the terms, but sometimes get outdated advice or conflicting advice.
 2nd, what MIDI keyboard should I get? I want something with ease of
 use, computers already confuse me enough so I want to start using the
 keyboard with the least amount of headaches... my top consideration
 has been the Novation remoteXL or some the M.Audio gear namely the
 Axion, any suggestions here? 3rd software plug ins, where do i start?
 need some sick synth sounds, so the moog and papen soft synths
 interrogate me, MOSTLY I AM CONFUSED ABOUT, soft samplers... I know
 logic comes with a nice one, have read extensively about NI Kontack
 2, as well as several others, my question is how do you take samples
 with a soft sampler. Should i sample them with my SU700 than transfer
 them into garageband, convert to .wav then import into soft sampler,
 or is there an easier less time consuming method. Also after I do
 take the samples how do I start grooving them into logic, like
 basically how do I write a drum track, loop.. record then start
 layering other sounds, this is also a complete mystery to me. I have
 many many other questions, but will keep it at these for the time:
 were do I start with logic.. 2. what keyboard/audio interface should
 I get.. 3. plug ins/VST/and mostly soft-samplers...4. again how to
 start writing, even if shit at 1st, i need to start making music
 again.. TAHNK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AS A FELLOW MUSICIAN I KNOW HOW
 PRESSED FOR TIME WE ALL ARE, AND ANSWERING A BEGINNERS QUESTION IS
 NOT ON THE PRIORITY LIST, BUT PLEASE HELP ANYONE. GOOD KARMA WILL
 FOLLOW, BECAUSE I LOVE MUSIC, IT IS MY LIFE I JUST NEED SOME COMPUTER
 BASED PRODUCTION HELP.
 THANK YOU.
 peace, advanced
 On Aug 14, 2006, at 12:58 PM, derby wrote:

 > Hello,
 >
  > Perhaps this is not related specifically to the Fireface, but I have 
a
 > routing dilemma.
 >
 > On the fireface I am using 8 analog ins, 8 ADAT ins, & 8 ADAT outs.
 >
 > When I load Logic, I only have 16 ins available tracks 1-16.
 >
 > The fireface is setup so inputs 1-8 are analog, 9-10 SPDIF, 11-18
 > ADAT in
 >
 > However, in Logic, tracks 17-18 are grayed out.
 >
 > Possible solution #1: I have tried (using the Fireface patchbay
 > (matrix)) to reroute the ADAT in to 9-16.
 > Possible solution #2: The other option is to tell logic to see more
 > audio tracks.
 >
 > How does Logic determine # of Audio Tracks allowed, why are some
 > grayed out? Is the RME driver telling Logic how many inputs? Is
 > Logic getting the number from what it thinks the Computer can handle?
 >
 > derby
 >
 >

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I concur with GAmoore.
Keep it simple.
L7 Pro gives you MORE then enough instruments and FX.
Get an Axiom Series Keyboard, you don't need a MIDI interface as the  
Axiom has USB, connect the internal audio output on your Mac to some  
powered speakers and you're good to go.
If you decide later that you want a dedicated audio interface look  
into the Mark of the Unicorn Firewire series (828 MK III, Traveller  
etc).
As your skills and ears improve you will know what needs to be replaced.
I would suggest getting into the process of making music with the  
tools you have and not get too caught up in the gear.

On Aug 15, 2006, at 2:19 AM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> I have the Axiom 25 and it fits on the desk behind the alphanumeric
> keyboard quite nicely. In general, I would go simple, and gradually  
> get
> more complicated. I wouldn't buy a bunch of extra software until you
> actually need it. Logic gives a pretty comprehenisive overall  
> solution.
> I would suggest the Apple training guide for Logic, and the books by
> Len Sasso and Robert Bennet. I have not seen the DVD, but it would
> probably be helpful too. Remember the main purpose is to make music,
> not to accumulate musical gear.

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