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Logic 7.2 Pro Version vs Logic 7.2 Pro Academic - Any differences

Logic 7.2 Pro Version vs Logic 7.2 Pro Academic - Any differences

2007-07-25 by dancensoul

Hello,
Outside of price, I understand there is no difference between Logic 
7.2 Pro Version and Logic 7.2 Pro Academic Version. I believe that the 
academic version is not cross upgradable to the next full version 
(i.e. Logic Pro 7.2 Academic to Logic 8 (whenever that comes out). I 
have someone who claims that they will sell me the Pro Version (non-
acad) version with the USB dongle (they are the original owner) for 
$500. This seems a bit too good to be true, as most academic versions 
I see factory sealed on eBay go for around this price.

What's the real deal on upgrades/crossgrades? Is academic only 
upgradable to the next academic version?

thx....

Doug

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Logic 7.2 Pro Version vs Logic 7.2 Pro Academic - Any differences

2007-07-25 by GAmoore@aol.com

No upgrades for academic products is sorta standard. Adobe CS (photoshop, 
etc.) is the same way. Its probably better to just go non-academic. There may be 
less support too - although you don't get a huge amount of support even when 
paying $1000.


Normal purchase :
full purchase            $1000 (or $500 on ebay)
1st upgrade $300   ... total $1300
2nd upgrade $300   ... total $1600
3rd upgrade $300   ... total $1900 ($1400 if original bought on ebay)


Academic
full purchase            $500
1st upgrade $500 ... total $1000
2nd upgrade $500   ... total $1500
3rd upgrade $500   ... total $2000




> Outside of price, I understand there is no difference between Logic
> 7.2 Pro Version and Logic 7.2 Pro Academic Version. I believe that the
> academic version is not cross upgradable to the next full version
> (i.e. Logic Pro 7.2 Academic to Logic 8 (whenever that comes out). I
> have someone who claims that they will sell me the Pro Version (non-
> acad) version with the USB dongle (they are the original owner) for
> $500. This seems a bit too good to be true, as most academic versions
> I see factory sealed on eBay go for around this price.
> 
> What's the real deal on upgrades/crossgrade What's the real dea
> upgradable to the next academic version?
> 




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RE: [Logic_Cafe] Logic 7.2 Pro Version vs Logic 7.2 Pro Academic - Any differences

2007-07-25 by Paul Stephenson

My friend bought academic and had no problems upgrading all the way to
7.2.

 

I always buy academic when I can.  The deal is that a lot of software
companies, the nice ones, know that they give you a little taste for a
very low price and then get you on upgrades and you are a lifetime
customer.  I always upgrade.

 

The drug dealer always says the first hit is free!  J  I wonder if they
will keep coming back... hehe

 

Paul
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Behalf Of GAmoore@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 1:29 PM
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Logic 7.2 Pro Version vs Logic 7.2 Pro
Academic - Any differences

 

No upgrades for academic products is sorta standard. Adobe CS
(photoshop, 
etc.) is the same way. Its probably better to just go non-academic.
There may be 
less support too - although you don't get a huge amount of support even
when 
paying $1000.

Normal purchase :
full purchase $1000 (or $500 on ebay)
1st upgrade $300 ... total $1300
2nd upgrade $300 ... total $1600
3rd upgrade $300 ... total $1900 ($1400 if original bought on ebay)

Academic
full purchase $500
1st upgrade $500 ... total $1000
2nd upgrade $500 ... total $1500
3rd upgrade $500 ... total $2000

> Outside of price, I understand there is no difference between Logic
> 7.2 Pro Version and Logic 7.2 Pro Academic Version. I believe that the
> academic version is not cross upgradable to the next full version
> (i.e. Logic Pro 7.2 Academic to Logic 8 (whenever that comes out). I
> have someone who claims that they will sell me the Pro Version (non-
> acad) version with the USB dongle (they are the original owner) for
> $500. This seems a bit too good to be true, as most academic versions
> I see factory sealed on eBay go for around this price.
> 
> What's the real deal on upgrades/crossgrade What's the real dea
> upgradable to the next academic version?
> 

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Re: Logic 7.2 Pro Version vs Logic 7.2 Pro Academic - Any differences

2007-07-25 by dancensoul

Greg.
Much thanks, I wasn't aware the upgrades were that much! I appreciate the info.

Doug
--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@... wrote:
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>
> No upgrades for academic products is sorta standard. Adobe CS (photoshop, 
> etc.) is the same way. Its probably better to just go non-academic. There may be 
> less support too - although you don't get a huge amount of support even when 
> paying $1000.
> 
> 
> Normal purchase :
> full purchase            $1000 (or $500 on ebay)
> 1st upgrade $300   ... total $1300
> 2nd upgrade $300   ... total $1600
> 3rd upgrade $300   ... total $1900 ($1400 if original bought on ebay)
> 
> 
> Academic
> full purchase            $500
> 1st upgrade $500 ... total $1000
> 2nd upgrade $500   ... total $1500
> 3rd upgrade $500   ... total $2000
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Outside of price, I understand there is no difference between Logic
> > 7.2 Pro Version and Logic 7.2 Pro Academic Version. I believe that the
> > academic version is not cross upgradable to the next full version
> > (i.e. Logic Pro 7.2 Academic to Logic 8 (whenever that comes out). I
> > have someone who claims that they will sell me the Pro Version (non-
> > acad) version with the USB dongle (they are the original owner) for
> > $500. This seems a bit too good to be true, as most academic versions
> > I see factory sealed on eBay go for around this price.
> > 
> > What's the real deal on upgrades/crossgrade What's the real dea
> > upgradable to the next academic version?
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Logic 7.2 Pro Version vs Logic 7.2 Pro Academic - Any differences

2007-07-25 by dancensoul

Paul, 
Thanks for the reply. I figured the crossgrades (I think that's the proper term) would be no 
problem. Was curious if there would be an issue upgrading from 7.x to 8.x (whenever v8 is 
released)

Cheers,
Doug

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Stephenson" <pauls@...> wrote:
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>
> My friend bought academic and had no problems upgrading all the way to
> 7.2.
> 
>  
> 
> I always buy academic when I can.  The deal is that a lot of software
> companies, the nice ones, know that they give you a little taste for a
> very low price and then get you on upgrades and you are a lifetime
> customer.  I always upgrade.
> 
>  
> 
> The drug dealer always says the first hit is free!  J  I wonder if they
> will keep coming back... hehe
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
>  
> 
> From: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of GAmoore@...
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 1:29 PM
> To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Logic 7.2 Pro Version vs Logic 7.2 Pro
> Academic - Any differences
> 
>  
> 
> No upgrades for academic products is sorta standard. Adobe CS
> (photoshop, 
> etc.) is the same way. Its probably better to just go non-academic.
> There may be 
> less support too - although you don't get a huge amount of support even
> when 
> paying $1000.
> 
> Normal purchase :
> full purchase $1000 (or $500 on ebay)
> 1st upgrade $300 ... total $1300
> 2nd upgrade $300 ... total $1600
> 3rd upgrade $300 ... total $1900 ($1400 if original bought on ebay)
> 
> Academic
> full purchase $500
> 1st upgrade $500 ... total $1000
> 2nd upgrade $500 ... total $1500
> 3rd upgrade $500 ... total $2000
> 
> > Outside of price, I understand there is no difference between Logic
> > 7.2 Pro Version and Logic 7.2 Pro Academic Version. I believe that the
> > academic version is not cross upgradable to the next full version
> > (i.e. Logic Pro 7.2 Academic to Logic 8 (whenever that comes out). I
> > have someone who claims that they will sell me the Pro Version (non-
> > acad) version with the USB dongle (they are the original owner) for
> > $500. This seems a bit too good to be true, as most academic versions
> > I see factory sealed on eBay go for around this price.
> > 
> > What's the real deal on upgrades/crossgrade What's the real dea
> > upgradable to the next academic version?
> > 
> 
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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Logic 7.2 Pro Version vs Logic 7.2 Pro Academic - Any differences

2007-07-26 by GAmoore@aol.com

I think the 7.2 upgrade was $50, the 7.1 upgrade was $20, but the upgrade 
from 6 to 7 was $300, and previous major upgrades (5 to 6, 4 to 5, etc) were 
about $200 but I can recall clearly. Emagic used to give all x.? upgrades free and 
only charge the big ones, but Apple is charging every little too.



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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Logic 7.2 Pro Version vs Logic 7.2 Pro Academic - Any differences

2007-07-26 by Chris Coccia

On Jul 25, 2007, at 5:02 PM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> I think the 7.2 upgrade was $50, the 7.1 upgrade was $20, but the  
> upgrade
> from 6 to 7 was $300, and previous major upgrades (5 to 6, 4 to 5,  
> etc) were
> about $200 but I can recall clearly. Emagic used to give all x.?  
> upgrades free and
> only charge the big ones, but Apple is charging every little too.
>
>

I dont remember having to pay a dime for 7.1. But maybe I just have a  
shitty memory.
The reason you had to pay for the 7.2 Crossgrade was it came on two  
DVD's.
The content disc alone, whether you actually install it or not was a  
dual layer dvd on top of that.
Not like Apple could put up the discs and let everyone on dialup drag  
down their site for years on end.

Although I still like to think they couldve given us some sort of  
downloadable UB installer for it instead of making us buy it along  
with like 7GB of loops Im never going to use and dont even have  
installed.

I lucked out in the beginning though.. When I went to buy an academic  
version of Platinum 5 at Guitar Center they didnt carry em. But the  
greasy sales guy still sold it to me for $400 (cause I told him never  
mind Ill get it from audiomidi.com) which has allowed me to stay on  
the regular upgrade path ever since.

---
Chris
www.monotrematamusic.com
www.descentrecords.com

RE: [Logic_Cafe] Logic 7.2 Pro Version vs Logic 7.2 Pro Academic - Any differences

2007-07-26 by james page

--- Paul Stephenson <pauls@...> wrote:

> My friend bought academic and had no problems
> upgrading all the way to
> 7.2.
> 
Right. Same here. BUT this was a few years ago and my
understanding is that the policy has changed. I would
not advise the original poster to purchase academic
and assume it can be upgraded.
JP

Re: Logic 7.2 Pro Version vs Logic 7.2 Pro Academic - Any differences

2007-07-26 by dancensoul

Yeah, thanks  Jimmy.... I'm the original poster and it's my original undestanding that the 
academic version can't be upgraded (maybe crossgraded).  My understanding is that a 
crossgrade is with versions (I'm a new Logic user, so I maybe wrong).


--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, james page <jimmymio@...> wrote:
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>
> 
> --- Paul Stephenson <pauls@...> wrote:
> 
> > My friend bought academic and had no problems
> > upgrading all the way to
> > 7.2.
> > 
> Right. Same here. BUT this was a few years ago and my
> understanding is that the policy has changed. I would
> not advise the original poster to purchase academic
> and assume it can be upgraded.
> JP
>

Logic Upgrade Successful!

2007-07-27 by F Stuart Leeds

Just wanted to give feedback to Gio, Chris, GA, and everyone else who  
helped out with this decision --

I purchased the $295 upgrade path from Logic 5 Plat to 7.2 Pro, using  
my old blue XS-Key. Contrary to what the Apples sales people "and  
several of their engineers" told me, the upgrade worked perfectly,  
and I am the proud owner of Logic Pro 7.2 on a MacBook Pro.

And I am totally loving it. I can do more in Logic in a day than I  
could a week with Samp or Acid on the PC. I'm already well into a  
chant/shoegazer piece that's been ringing around in my head for a  
couple years now.  With native loop support (7.2 let me import ACID  
loops drag-n-drop, no questions asked, made them into Apple loops),  
plus Absynth 4, Philharmonik, and Battery, I have some gorgeous  
sounds to play with, and no CPU problems (once I turned overload  
messages off...that's another story).

So thanks for all your support and encouragement.  I'm still slightly  
amazed that Apple almost talked me out of buying Logic, to say  
nothing of the Mac purchase itself.

Skip




On Jul 25, 2007, at 9:10 PM, Chris Coccia wrote:

>
> On Jul 25, 2007, at 5:02 PM, GAmoore@... wrote:
>
> > I think the 7.2 upgrade was $50, the 7.1 upgrade was $20, but the
> > upgrade
> > from 6 to 7 was $300, and previous major upgrades (5 to 6, 4 to 5,
> > etc) were
> > about $200 but I can recall clearly. Emagic used to give all x.?
> > upgrades free and
> > only charge the big ones, but Apple is charging every little too.
> >
> >
>
> I dont remember having to pay a dime for 7.1. But maybe I just have a
> shitty memory.
> The reason you had to pay for the 7.2 Crossgrade was it came on two
> DVD's.
> The content disc alone, whether you actually install it or not was a
> dual layer dvd on top of that.
> Not like Apple could put up the discs and let everyone on dialup drag
> down their site for years on end.
>
> Although I still like to think they couldve given us some sort of
> downloadable UB installer for it instead of making us buy it along
> with like 7GB of loops Im never going to use and dont even have
> installed.
>
> I lucked out in the beginning though.. When I went to buy an academic
> version of Platinum 5 at Guitar Center they didnt carry em. But the
> greasy sales guy still sold it to me for $400 (cause I told him never
> mind Ill get it from audiomidi.com) which has allowed me to stay on
> the regular upgrade path ever since.
>
> ---
> Chris
> www.monotrematamusic.com
> www.descentrecords.com
>
>
> 



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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Logic Upgrade Successful!

2007-07-28 by Gio

On Jul 27, 2007, at 12:26 AM, F Stuart Leeds <skip@... 
 > wrote:

>
> Just wanted to give feedback to Gio, Chris, GA, and everyone else who
> helped out with this decision --
>
> I purchased the $295 upgrade path from Logic 5 Plat to 7.2 Pro, using
> my old blue XS-Key. Contrary to what the Apples sales people "and
> several of their engineers" told me, the upgrade worked perfectly,
> and I am the proud owner of Logic Pro 7.2 on a MacBook Pro.
>
> And I am totally loving it. I can do more in Logic in a day than I
> could a week with Samp or Acid on the PC. I'm already well into a
> chant/shoegazer piece that's been ringing around in my head for a
> couple years now.  With native loop support (7.2 let me import ACID
> loops drag-n-drop, no questions asked, made them into Apple loops),
> plus Absynth 4, Philharmonik, and Battery, I have some gorgeous
> sounds to play with, and no CPU problems (once I turned overload
> messages off...that's another story).
>
> So thanks for all your support and encouragement.  I'm still slightly
> amazed that Apple almost talked me out of buying Logic, to say
> nothing of the Mac purchase itself.
>
> Skip
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
Rock on Skip,
Glad you did the plunge. For me it was totally worth it.
Ciao
Gio

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