Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

I know this is a long shot, but is there anyway to open a project  
that was saved in L9 in L8?  I don't have L9, can't see any need to  
get it, but someone is sending me a project that I will need to open,  
and all I have is L8.  Is there an option to save a L9 project so  
that it can be opened with L8?

Thanks,

Gregory

Tried it out last week.  A guy running L8 opened my L9 project without  
hassle, the flex time tracks need to be printed to audio files though,  
that's the only limitation.  Everything else works.

Take care
L.

Le 14-août-09 à 00:10, Gregory Anderson a écrit :

> I know this is a long shot, but is there anyway to open a project
> that was saved in L9 in L8? I don't have L9, can't see any need to
> get it, but someone is sending me a project that I will need to open,
> and all I have is L8. Is there an option to save a L9 project so
> that it can be opened with L8?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gregory
>
> 



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Many thanks for all the replied about mastering and I'm trying the  
advice out and will let you know how I get on. Now I have an urgent  
problem (again). I have a singer coming round in twelve hours, I've  
been without power for two days and finally got it back but don't have  
time to figure out this problem.

After reading a few reviews I bought the FastTrack Pro audio  
interface. Then I couldn't install the driver from the CD (then found  
others had this problem on mac) so I downloaded and installed the  
driver from M Audio's site to my mac hd. Then I went to preferences in  
the mac settings and chose the Fastrack pro which was listed as an  
option, so I am guessing that the driver downloaded ok. I chose  
headphones for the output. In Logic 8 I chose the Fast Track Pro as  
the audio device and saved the change. Now I have no sound output at  
all. I can see the sound running through the mixer, but its not  
outputting to my headphones, nor to the audio interface.

I tried choosing the audio interface as my output device in mac  
settings but it says there is no output control for the device. It  
also says there is no input control either although the meter shows it  
is hearing the input from the mic.

I can hear itunes through my headphones ok, its just in Logic where  
there is now no output.

Could anyone suggest what blindingly obvious thing I have missed?

As always, thanks in advance for the invaluable advice. One of these  
days I will be able to answer a question myself and then I will be  
very proud!

thanks

Andy B

Hi,

 I have a Fast Track Pro myself.  As far as the drivers are concerned there really are none for the mac.  It is a class compliant dievice and should work just fine.  That is why there are no controls for it.  As far as the headphones are concerned... were do you choose headphones out?  There is no separate headphone out on the fast track..it just plays what you here through the monitors through the headphones...similar to a stereo...

You may have just picked an I/O that was labeled headphones out...

just make sure that fast track is picked as your output device.  Then make sure the mix and the A/B switches are set properly on it

-rs



-- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Andy Brook <bbgrove@...> wrote:

>
> Many thanks for all the replied about mastering and I'm trying the  
> advice out and will let you know how I get on. Now I have an urgent  
> problem (again). I have a singer coming round in twelve hours, I've  
> been without power for two days and finally got it back but don't have  
> time to figure out this problem.
> 
> After reading a few reviews I bought the FastTrack Pro audio  
> interface. Then I couldn't install the driver from the CD (then found  
> others had this problem on mac) so I downloaded and installed the  
> driver from M Audio's site to my mac hd. Then I went to preferences in  
> the mac settings and chose the Fastrack pro which was listed as an  
> option, so I am guessing that the driver downloaded ok. I chose  
> headphones for the output. In Logic 8 I chose the Fast Track Pro as  
> the audio device and saved the change. Now I have no sound output at  
> all. I can see the sound running through the mixer, but its not  
> outputting to my headphones, nor to the audio interface.
> 
> I tried choosing the audio interface as my output device in mac  
> settings but it says there is no output control for the device. It  
> also says there is no input control either although the meter shows it  
> is hearing the input from the mic.
> 
> I can hear itunes through my headphones ok, its just in Logic where  
> there is now no output.
> 
> Could anyone suggest what blindingly obvious thing I have missed?
> 
> As always, thanks in advance for the invaluable advice. One of these  
> days I will be able to answer a question myself and then I will be  
> very proud!
> 
> thanks
> 
> Andy B
>

Thanks Rob. Since posting that message I found out that I can't have  
the output through my mac headphones, the input and output both have  
to be through the fast track. I then found that connecting the fast  
track after loading up logic made it work. Now I can hear everything  
and record audio, although the line input has to be set very high to  
make it work. I'm using a Shure SM58 mic and an XLR cable. I'm such a  
novice that I'm not even sure if I should use phantom power, although  
it doesn't seem to make much difference either way. I used to have a  
similar problem getting enough input volume on my BOSS BR 1600  
recording unit. Must be something I'm doing wrong but for the life of  
me I can't work it out and google isn't helping either. I got the A/B  
switch right, at least!

Andy B

On 14 Aug 2009, at 23:41, Rob Stauffer wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a Fast Track Pro myself. As far as the drivers are concerned  
> there really are none for the mac. It is a class compliant dievice  
> and should work just fine. That is why there are no controls for it.  
> As far as the headphones are concerned... were do you choose  
> headphones out? There is no separate headphone out on the fast  
> track..it just plays what you here through the monitors through the  
> headphones...similar to a stereo...
>
> You may have just picked an I/O that was labeled headphones out...
>
> just make sure that fast track is picked as your output device. Then  
> make sure the mix and the A/B switches are set properly on it
>
> -rs
>
> -- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Andy Brook <bbgrove@...> wrote:
> >
> > Many thanks for all the replied about mastering and I'm trying the
> > advice out and will let you know how I get on. Now I have an urgent
> > problem (again). I have a singer coming round in twelve hours, I've
> > been without power for two days and finally got it back but don't  
> have
> > time to figure out this problem.
> >
> > After reading a few reviews I bought the FastTrack Pro audio
> > interface. Then I couldn't install the driver from the CD (then  
> found
> > others had this problem on mac) so I downloaded and installed the
> > driver from M Audio's site to my mac hd. Then I went to  
> preferences in
> > the mac settings and chose the Fastrack pro which was listed as an
> > option, so I am guessing that the driver downloaded ok. I chose
> > headphones for the output. In Logic 8 I chose the Fast Track Pro as
> > the audio device and saved the change. Now I have no sound output at
> > all. I can see the sound running through the mixer, but its not
> > outputting to my headphones, nor to the audio interface.
> >
> > I tried choosing the audio interface as my output device in mac
> > settings but it says there is no output control for the device. It
> > also says there is no input control either although the meter  
> shows it
> > is hearing the input from the mic.
> >
> > I can hear itunes through my headphones ok, its just in Logic where
> > there is now no output.
> >
> > Could anyone suggest what blindingly obvious thing I have missed?
> >
> > As always, thanks in advance for the invaluable advice. One of these
> > days I will be able to answer a question myself and then I will be
> > very proud!
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Andy B
> >
>
>
>

What you can do however, is set up an aggregate device on the mac

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1215

this is a great way to setup more than one output or input...

also try Soundflower  which can help with that too... so you can have your fasttrack on channels 1 and 2 and put your headphones to 3 and 4 and use the aggregate device and or soundflower to do so.. basically the aggregate device is like a fake master device


-- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Andy Brook <bbgrove@...> wrote:

>
> Thanks Rob. Since posting that message I found out that I can't have  
> the output through my mac headphones, the input and output both have  
> to be through the fast track. I then found that connecting the fast  
> track after loading up logic made it work. Now I can hear everything  
> and record audio, although the line input has to be set very high to  
> make it work. I'm using a Shure SM58 mic and an XLR cable. I'm such a  
> novice that I'm not even sure if I should use phantom power, although  
> it doesn't seem to make much difference either way. I used to have a  
> similar problem getting enough input volume on my BOSS BR 1600  
> recording unit. Must be something I'm doing wrong but for the life of  
> me I can't work it out and google isn't helping either. I got the A/B  
> switch right, at least!
> 
> Andy B
> 
> 
> On 14 Aug 2009, at 23:41, Rob Stauffer wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a Fast Track Pro myself. As far as the drivers are concerned  
> > there really are none for the mac. It is a class compliant dievice  
> > and should work just fine. That is why there are no controls for it.  
> > As far as the headphones are concerned... were do you choose  
> > headphones out? There is no separate headphone out on the fast  
> > track..it just plays what you here through the monitors through the  
> > headphones...similar to a stereo...
> >
> > You may have just picked an I/O that was labeled headphones out...
> >
> > just make sure that fast track is picked as your output device. Then  
> > make sure the mix and the A/B switches are set properly on it
> >
> > -rs
> >
> > -- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Andy Brook <bbgrove@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Many thanks for all the replied about mastering and I'm trying the
> > > advice out and will let you know how I get on. Now I have an urgent
> > > problem (again). I have a singer coming round in twelve hours, I've
> > > been without power for two days and finally got it back but don't  
> > have
> > > time to figure out this problem.
> > >
> > > After reading a few reviews I bought the FastTrack Pro audio
> > > interface. Then I couldn't install the driver from the CD (then  
> > found
> > > others had this problem on mac) so I downloaded and installed the
> > > driver from M Audio's site to my mac hd. Then I went to  
> > preferences in
> > > the mac settings and chose the Fastrack pro which was listed as an
> > > option, so I am guessing that the driver downloaded ok. I chose
> > > headphones for the output. In Logic 8 I chose the Fast Track Pro as
> > > the audio device and saved the change. Now I have no sound output at
> > > all. I can see the sound running through the mixer, but its not
> > > outputting to my headphones, nor to the audio interface.
> > >
> > > I tried choosing the audio interface as my output device in mac
> > > settings but it says there is no output control for the device. It
> > > also says there is no input control either although the meter  
> > shows it
> > > is hearing the input from the mic.
> > >
> > > I can hear itunes through my headphones ok, its just in Logic where
> > > there is now no output.
> > >
> > > Could anyone suggest what blindingly obvious thing I have missed?
> > >
> > > As always, thanks in advance for the invaluable advice. One of these
> > > days I will be able to answer a question myself and then I will be
> > > very proud!
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > Andy B
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

SM58 is a Dynamic so no phantom power needed.
The fast Track Pro's built in amps should boost the signal you are  
getting.
Adjust this via the gain control and other controls on the front  (I  
don't think you can do this via the driver (application) that  comes  
with the fastrack but i am not sure)

Check pages 10 and 11 of the Fast track Pro User Manual.
excerpts below

=======

Setting Up Your Recording Levels
Using the Mic/Inst Inputs
Connect your microphone, instrument or line level source to the Fast  
Track Pro�s front panel Mic/Inst inputs. Make sure the associated
channel�s Inst/Line button is set to the out  (Inst) position for  
microphone or instrument input, or to the in (Line) position for line  
level
sources. If you are using a condenser microphone, be certain to slide  
the 48V PH Power switch to the On position (after connecting the
microphone to the XLR input). If your microphone input signal is too  
hot (Clip LED lights steadily), press the Pad button to lower the input
level.
Adjust each channel�s input GAIN knob to achieve a fairly steady green  
Signal LED without triggering the red Clip LED, while audibly
testing your input levels (i.e., strumming the guitar, or speaking  
into the mic).
NOTE: When recording with microphones, it is best to keep the mic at  
some distance from the main speakers, or use headphones
to monitor. Feedback may occur when microphones are too close to  
speakers.

========

Monitoring Your Inputs for Recording
Using the Input/Playback Mix Control
The input/playback Mix knob controls the source of the audio sent to  
TRS Outputs 1 and 2, fading between the input signal (at the front-
panel Mic/Inst inputs 1 and 2) and the output signal from your audio  
application.
< When the knob is turned fully counter-clockwise (the IN position),  
only the input signals are heard at the outputs.
< When the knob is turned fully clockwise (the PB position), only the  
output signal from your DAW is heard at the outputs.
< Any point between the IN and PB positions will give you a mix of  
both inputs.
The real advantage of the Mix knob is that it enables you to monitor  
your live inputs in real time as you�re recording them, while also
monitoring the existing tracks coming from your DAW, as well as  
allowing you to control the relative levels of both sources.  When you
do this, be sure to mute the inputs on the tracks you�re recording.   
Otherwise, you�ll hear the direct signal AND the return signal from
the DAW.

===========


NB if you really have issues with the Dynamic mics output level.. you  
cold try a relatively low cost (additional ) in-line preamp to boost  
the signal at the mic itself.

A pretty good one is the  Triton Audio's  FetHead device  - http://www.tritonaudio.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category�ionid=4&id=17&Itemid=33
available from the above website (Based in msterdam Netherlands)
or available locally in USA from Oktava Mod..  http://www.oktavamodshop.com/product_info.php?cPath=3&products_id=122&osCsid=lpigfr7kqrth19q1qctkklorc4

But you should be able to sort things without this. But just in case...



Steve Currington
de Composer
Wellington, New Zealand
Web:        http://www.singers.org.nz



-------------------------------------
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Hardware: 24" iMac 2.8Ghz, 4Gb RAM, 320Gb Int. HDD, 2 x 1Tb Ext. HDD,  
500Gb Portable Ext. Drive, Broadband Internet ,
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AxiomPro49 Keyboard, Motu Traveler Firewire Audio, various microphones
Software: OSX v10.5.8 (Leopard), Sibelius 6, Logic Studio v8 & v9,  
NeoOffice, Firefox, Zotero, Various software Synth and instruments

On 15/08/2009, at 11:11 AM, Andy Brook wrote:

> Thanks Rob. Since posting that message I found out that I can't have
> the output through my mac headphones, the input and output both have
> to be through the fast track. I then found that connecting the fast
> track after loading up logic made it work. Now I can hear everything
> and record audio, although the line input has to be set very high to
> make it work. I'm using a Shure SM58 mic and an XLR cable. I'm such a
> novice that I'm not even sure if I should use phantom power, although
> it doesn't seem to make much difference either way. I used to have a
> similar problem getting enough input volume on my BOSS BR 1600
> recording unit. Must be something I'm doing wrong but for the life of
> me I can't work it out and google isn't helping either. I got the A/B
> switch right, at least!
>
> Andy B
>
>
> On 14 Aug 2009, at 23:41, Rob Stauffer wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a Fast Track Pro myself. As far as the drivers are concerned
>> there really are none for the mac. It is a class compliant dievice
>> and should work just fine. That is why there are no controls for it.
>> As far as the headphones are concerned... were do you choose
>> headphones out? There is no separate headphone out on the fast
>> track..it just plays what you here through the monitors through the
>> headphones...similar to a stereo...
>>
>> You may have just picked an I/O that was labeled headphones out...
>>
>> just make sure that fast track is picked as your output device. Then
>> make sure the mix and the A/B switches are set properly on it
>>
>> -rs
>>
>> -- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Andy Brook <bbgrove@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Many thanks for all the replied about mastering and I'm trying the
>>> advice out and will let you know how I get on. Now I have an urgent
>>> problem (again). I have a singer coming round in twelve hours, I've
>>> been without power for two days and finally got it back but don't
>> have
>>> time to figure out this problem.
>>>
>>> After reading a few reviews I bought the FastTrack Pro audio
>>> interface. Then I couldn't install the driver from the CD (then
>> found
>>> others had this problem on mac) so I downloaded and installed the
>>> driver from M Audio's site to my mac hd. Then I went to
>> preferences in
>>> the mac settings and chose the Fastrack pro which was listed as an
>>> option, so I am guessing that the driver downloaded ok. I chose
>>> headphones for the output. In Logic 8 I chose the Fast Track Pro as
>>> the audio device and saved the change. Now I have no sound output at
>>> all. I can see the sound running through the mixer, but its not
>>> outputting to my headphones, nor to the audio interface.
>>>
>>> I tried choosing the audio interface as my output device in mac
>>> settings but it says there is no output control for the device. It
>>> also says there is no input control either although the meter
>> shows it
>>> is hearing the input from the mic.
>>>
>>> I can hear itunes through my headphones ok, its just in Logic where
>>> there is now no output.
>>>
>>> Could anyone suggest what blindingly obvious thing I have missed?
>>>
>>> As always, thanks in advance for the invaluable advice. One of these
>>> days I will be able to answer a question myself and then I will be
>>> very proud!
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Andy B
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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