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Dear All,

As a Marcos enthusiast (for the last six years), I have been researching the 
history of the early Marcosses, and the Marcos Fastbacks in particular, for 
the last 2 years or so. I was wondering whether any of you, knows whether 
there still are some early Marcosses (pre-1800) around. I was told the John 
Sutton Gullwing once resided in the States and I understood the late Dave 
McCubbin was restoring a Luton Gullwing. Can anybody confirm where both cars 
are? A few cars went to Japan, at least one is thought to be in Australia 
and France and Italy could holdl a couple more. Is there anybody who knows 
where they have gone? Should you have any further information regarding any 
Gullwing or Fastback (no matter where they ended up), I would love to hear 
from you. Also material from the 1960's, pictures, stories, names and 
addresses are all welcome, maybe we can in the end fit all the pieces of the 
puzzle together in the end.

By the way, the programme of the 6th Marcos Euregio Meeting is about to be 
finalised, and I will send an invitation to the group soon.

Kindest regards

Maarten Krikken

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Regards . . . Ron McLeod

Maarten,

Dave McCubbin passed away in November of 2002.  I don't know what 
the status of his Gullwing is.

Klaus Tweddell of Germany owns at least 4 Fastbacks and a Gullwing.  
Pix at:
http://marcosmaniacs.com/Chassis%20History.htm

Some of KLaus' pix are also in the "photos" section on this site.
Hope that helps.

Don Lattimer
#3m5759
Willits, CA, USA


--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Maarten Krikken" 
<m_krikken@h...> wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> As a Marcos enthusiast (for the last six years), I have been 
researching the 
> history of the early Marcosses, and the Marcos Fastbacks in 
particular, for 
> the last 2 years or so. I was wondering whether any of you, knows 
whether 
> there still are some early Marcosses (pre-1800) around. I was told 
the John 
> Sutton Gullwing once resided in the States and I understood the 
late Dave 
> McCubbin was restoring a Luton Gullwing. Can anybody confirm where 
both cars 
> are? A few cars went to Japan, at least one is thought to be in 
Australia 
> and France and Italy could holdl a couple more. Is there anybody 
who knows 
> where they have gone? Should you have any further information 
regarding any 
> Gullwing or Fastback (no matter where they ended up), I would love 
to hear 
> from you. Also material from the 1960's, pictures, stories, names 
and 
> addresses are all welcome, maybe we can in the end fit all the 
pieces of the 
> puzzle together in the end.
> 
> By the way, the programme of the 6th Marcos Euregio Meeting is 
about to be 

> finalised, and I will send an invitation to the group soon.
> 
> Kindest regards
> 
> Maarten Krikken
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
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Dear All,

Indeed Klaus' collection is very impresive and without doubt the most 
comprehensive collection of early Marcos cars. It would be interesting to 
find out which others are around. A few gullwings were raced in the eighties 
and nineties in the UK, but if these are still around, I don't know.

Especially the Ugly Duckling of John Sutton might be intesting for the US 
members, as it is thought to be around in the States. Do we have any 
Japanese members who could be of any help?

I hope to compile a full spreadsheet on the history of the early cars. I 
have done quite a bit of work on the Fastbacks overview already but it is a 
very very big puzzle, with a lot of blancs and missing links.

I know there a still a couple of cars literally lying in barns, and maybe 
there are more out there. It would really be a shame if more of these unique 
cars get lost or remain unrestored.

Maarten

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I have owned #5536 3L Volvo sense 1971. Right now it
is in the proverbial barn with 12000 miles. I have
completely restored it twice and am looking for parts
to do it again. It has air and Automatic Transmission,
both have every seal leaking so I cant drive it.  
Larry Meadows

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Maarten,
             I believe one or possibly two are located in Germany. There is a 
German guy who has a stable of marcos  cars If memory serves correct the Gull 
wing was green with a white racing stripe down the middle. There is a web 
site where a lot of Marcos cars are listed and pictured I will try to get that 
site for you.

   Hal
   #5353

Het Maarten,
                  Don beat me to the punch. The web site I was thinking of 
was the one Don gave you.
 Hal
 #5353

Hello Maarten,

I don´t have details for the two cars you requested, but here in Germany Klaus Twedell is owner of a green "Gullwing". The car is top condition and he is driving the car for "hill climbing" races.

As far as I know he owns three (perhaps five) "Fastbacks". Two of these Fastbacks are regulary on the track. One of the cars is lightblue and the other car is grenn/gold. The third one should be red/white and was earlier driven in the Netherlands.

A very rare and nearly unknown Marcos is the "Tavenor". This car is also based on a "Fastback" but the driver Mr. Tavenor changed the car several times. When I saw the car first time on the nürburgring in 60´s the car was open like a "Spyder" in later time the car was rebuild to a "coupe". The rear axle was changed from live axle to independant and so.  This car was absolutely fascinating and rather successful. The most unusual detail on this car is the fact, that the "roll-over" is like the chassis wooden.

You will find some pictures of Twedell cars under yahoo "pictures". Klaus Twedell has a lot of old race photos of the car - mainly Nürburgring - and knows a lot of the early cars. 

If you need informations concerning the "pre marcos" time - the cars were named "Speedex" you can get them under:

www.marcoscentre.nl/html/home.html

section: "cars"

Regards
Christian

MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com schrieb am 12.06.03 21:16:48:
Dear All,

As a Marcos enthusiast (for the last six years), I have been researching the 
history of the early Marcosses, and the Marcos Fastbacks in particular, for 
the last 2 years or so. I was wondering whether any of you, knows whether 
there still are some early Marcosses (pre-1800) around. I was told the John 
Sutton Gullwing once resided in the States and I understood the late Dave 
McCubbin was restoring a Luton Gullwing. Can anybody confirm where both cars 
are? A few cars went to Japan, at least one is thought to be in Australia 
and France and Italy could holdl a couple more. Is there anybody who knows 
where they have gone? Should you have any further information regarding any 
Gullwing or Fastback (no matter where they ended up), I would love to hear 
from you. Also material from the 1960s, pictures, stories, names and 
addresses are all welcome, maybe we can in the end fit all the pieces of the 
puzzle together in the end.

By the way, the programme of the 6th Marcos Euregio Meeting is about to be 
finalised, and I will send an invitation to the group soon.

Kindest regards

Maarten Krikken

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Dear Marcos friends,

first of all thanks for the reactions on the early cars, but as you will 
understand I am after even more info and I hope you can keep on helping me. 
I have no idea about the American classic car scene, so I totally rely on 
all of you.

John Sutton told me the following:

I remember the Marcos (his gullwing) being advertised for sale in Road & 
Track, it must
have been in the 1980's.   Unfortunately I did not keep a copy, or I
cannot find it.   It was being offered by a young lady in California.
It was registered 80 SNK which I remember it still carried and there was
a photo of it.

So that is the start and all I know. Where is it now, that is the question. 
Is there anyone who is in touch with classic car magazines that I could get 
in touch with, and does anybody happen to know somebody at Road & Track who 
could help search for the ad? Or has anybody got all the Road and Tracks of 
the Eighties?

Any suggestions out there that could put me on track?

I look forward to hearing from you,

Kindest regards

Maarten

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