QTR-Quadtone RIP

Hi,

   I am about to begin testing Piezography inks on Epson printers and after some searching, I see that some mac users are having problems with newest Mac OS/QTR/Piezography.  On Piezography's Facebook page, Jon Cone talks about QTR's upcoming release of their product as a standalone RIP (as opposed to a printer driver).   I'm in a busy production environment and don't really want to invest the time of familiarizing myself with the QTR print driver if a standalone RIP is imminent.  Any news on a release date?

Thanks,

   Adam Sanders

I see Jon is already talking about my new software.
But I think its a bit confusing.  There is no change to QTR -- on a
Mac its a print driver
and will remain that way for the foreseeable future.

What is new is a completely new standalone program for layout and
printing.  Naturally
it works well with the QTR print driver but also works with other OS X
print drivers.
The software is well tested already but website and docs are in progress.
Understanding the QTR driver would not be time wasted.

More to come soon.

Roy

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:58 AM, iganatz_2000 <iganatz@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>    I am about to begin testing Piezography inks on Epson printers and after some searching, I see that some mac users are having problems with newest Mac OS/QTR/Piezography.  On Piezography's Facebook page, Jon Cone talks about QTR's upcoming release of their product as a standalone RIP (as opposed to a printer driver).   I'm in a busy production environment and don't really want to invest the time of familiarizing myself with the QTR print driver if a standalone RIP is imminent.  Any news on a release date?
>
> Thanks,
>
>    Adam Sanders
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A QTR  GUI for MAC !  This is really good news !!  I have been waiting for this - Looking forward to the roll out -Thankyou


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Hi Roy

Thanks for this!

I paid for the previous version, and I'm happy to pay for this one too. Will a payment thru the site apply to this? In other words, are you set up to accept $$ yet for the new version?

Price?

I think I can answer that myself: no. The purchase button merely takes one back to the site, and offers up a purchase of 2.7 (the original RIP driver.) The current / new RIP (Print-Tool) is version 1.07.

So, we need to wait to purchase.

Tracy

 

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> Hi Roy
> 
> Thanks for this!
> 
> I paid for the previous version, and I'm happy to pay for this one too. Will a payment thru the site apply to this? In other words, are you set up to accept $$ yet for the new version?
> 
> Price?
>

Hi all, 

I'm wondering whether it's possible to modify the ink
separation files (those that are Magenta/Cyan) in order to save paper
while making profiles. I would like to make my own file with the full
black line on top (from 0 to 100) and the 5 "100" squares of the gray
inks on a second line (the only ones I need in fact). Is it something OK
or taking the original files is a must? 

Thx in advance for your help.


Regards 

Sylvain. 

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Are you determining the "densities" by looking at the 100% patches?  If so,
I'm curious how the pre-linearization ramp looks.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

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> **
>
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm wondering whether it's possible to modify the ink
> separation files (those that are Magenta/Cyan) in order to save paper
> while making profiles. I would like to make my own file with the full
> black line on top (from 0 to 100) and the 5 "100" squares of the gray
> inks on a second line (the only ones I need in fact). Is it something OK
> or taking the original files is a must?
>
> Thx in advance for your help.
>
> Regards
>
> Sylvain.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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As of today, I followed the procedures I've found on the net. And
during the ink separation step, it is recommended to match the 100%
patches of gray scales with the black scales. Is it wrong? 

Sylvain.


Le 2012-09-24 17:17, Paul Roark a écrit : 

> Are you determining the
"densities" by looking at the 100% patches? If so,
> I'm curious how the
pre-linearization ramp looks.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> On Mon,
Sep 24, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Sylvain M. <sylvain@...>wrote:
>

>> ** Hi all, I'm wondering whether it's possible to modify the ink
separation files (those that are Magenta/Cyan) in order to save paper
while making profiles. I would like to make my own file with the full
black line on top (from 0 to 100) and the 5 "100" squares of the gray
inks on a second line (the only ones I need in fact). Is it something OK
or taking the original files is a must? Thx in advance for your help.
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I match the densities of the dilute inks at their ink limits to the K
densities when the K ink is printed at its ink limit.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Sylvain M. <sylvain@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> As of today, I followed the procedures I've found on the net. And
> during the ink separation step, it is recommended to match the 100%
> patches of gray scales with the black scales. Is it wrong?
>
> Sylvain.
>
> Le 2012-09-24 17:17, Paul Roark a écrit :
>
> > Are you determining the
> "densities" by looking at the 100% patches? If so,
> > I'm curious how the
> pre-linearization ramp looks.
> >
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
> > On Mon,
> Sep 24, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Sylvain M. <sylvain@grainsdefolie.net>wrote:
> >
>
> >> ** Hi all, I'm wondering whether it's possible to modify the ink
>
> separation files (those that are Magenta/Cyan) in order to save paper
> while making profiles. I would like to make my own file with the full
> black line on top (from 0 to 100) and the 5 "100" squares of the gray
> inks on a second line (the only ones I need in fact). Is it something OK
> or taking the original files is a must? Thx in advance for your help.
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If I understand well, you choose the first full printed patch of
grey inks when printed with the ink limit of black ink? 

Le 2012-09-24
18:39, Paul Roark a écrit : 

> I match the densities of the dilute inks
at their ink limits to the K
> densities when the K ink is printed at
its ink limit.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012
at 9:17 AM, Sylvain M. <sylvain@...>wrote:
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>> ** As of
today, I followed the procedures I've found on the net. And during the
ink separation step, it is recommended to match the 100% patches of gray
scales with the black scales. Is it wrong? Sylvain. Le 2012-09-24 17:17,
Paul Roark a écrit : 
>> 
>>> Are you determining the
>> "densities" by
looking at the 100% patches? If so, 
>> 
>>> I'm curious how the
>>
pre-linearization ramp looks. ** Hi all, I'm wondering whether it's
possible to modify the ink separation files (those that are
Magenta/Cyan) in ord
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>>> rom 0 to 100) and the 5 "100" squares of
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Sylvain M. <sylvain@...> wrote:

> **
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> If I understand well, you choose the first full printed patch of
>
> grey inks when printed with the ink limit of black ink?
>

The gray ink limits are determined with the first Calibration Mode print,
and I use that first Calibration Mode print to measure the densities of the
gray inks at their ink limits.

Those gray ink limits are compared to a second 21-step test print of the
black ink at it's ink limit, which was also determined from the first
Calibration Mode print.  Most people print a full second Calibration Mode
print at this black ink limit.

(I use another approach to save some paper.  I use a manually-drawn
straight line curve to print a separate 21-step test print.  You'll see
curves like this in my various Profile Zip files, named things like
"K-0-45," for example, as the straight line curve that prints the black ink
from 0 to an ink limit of 45.)

I hope this helps.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com


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OK. 

So: you take the first print to measure ALL inks limits, then
you print a black 21-step print at the black ink limit, and you match
the densities of the grey inks on this second print. Right? 

It's
different from what I read on the net, but indeed it sounds more
logical... 

Thx Paul! 

Le 2012-09-25 17:05, Paul Roark a écrit : 

>
Sylvain M. <sylvain@grainsdefolie.net> wrote:
> 
>> **
> 
>> If I
understand well, you choose the first full printed patch of grey inks
when printed with the ink limit of black ink?
> The gray ink limits are
determined with the first Calibration Mode print, and I use that first
Calibration Mode print to measure the densities of the gray inks at
their ink limits. Those gray ink limits are compared to a second 21-step
test print of the black ink at it's ink limit, which was also determined
from the first Calibration Mode print. Most people print a full second
Calibration Mode print at this black ink limit. (I use another approach
to save some paper. I use a manually-drawn straight line curve to print
a separate 21-step test print. You'll see curves like this in my various
Profile Zip files, named things like "K-0-45," for example, as the
straight line curve that prints the black ink from 0 to an ink limit of
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Sylvain,

If you are trying to make K7 curves, I recommend that you first try the K7 curves I produced. There is some difficulty in trying to make your own curves with seven shades - not impossible of course, but more difficult than when working with just 3 or 4 shades. The K7 curves are produced by the Piezography profiler and include overlaps and ink trail off that are not possible when using the QTR Curve Tool. These are features that definitely take advantage of your printer model.

The beauty of Piezography is that it's turn-key, easy, and produces very high standard results without having to do anything other than install it and follow our instructions. You should be able to make the highest possible quality print right off. If you find we do not support your media choice with the built-in K7 curves - we do make customs and you need only print out a target of 256 gray values.

If you could not find the Piezography curves as part of your installation - our manual and your particular printer model instructions are located here:

http://www.piezography.com/PiezoPress/technical-support/

regards,

Jon Cone
Piezography


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>
>  
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> I'm wondering whether it's possible to modify the ink
> separation files (those that are Magenta/Cyan) in order to save paper
> while making profiles. I would like to make my own file with the full
> black line on top (from 0 to 100) and the 5 "100" squares of the gray
> inks on a second line (the only ones I need in fact). Is it something OK
> or taking the original files is a must? 
> 
> Thx in advance for your help.
> 
> 
> Regards 
> 
> Sylvain. 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>