QTR-Quadtone RIP

Is there a way in QTR (using QTRGui) to print several images on
one sheet?  For example, I'd like to print two 5x7 images on a
single 8.5x11 sheet.  I can't see a way to do this, except possible
to combine them in Photoshop, which seems like a hassle.

No, but you can use Qimage to create the multiple images and print to a file
then print with QTR.

-Stephen
 www.sbillard.org/Stephen

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> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:33 AM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] printing multiple images on one sheet
> 
> 
> Is there a way in QTR (using QTRGui) to print several images 
> on one sheet?  For example, I'd like to print two 5x7 images 
> on a single 8.5x11 sheet.  I can't see a way to do this, 
> except possible to combine them in Photoshop, which seems 
> like a hassle.
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Right, or with Photoshop you can set up a canvas contact sheet by
going to Automate-contact sheet II and importing a folder of presized
files to distribute on whatever canvas size with dpi you want to use.
You will need to set the number of rows and the number of prints in
that row but its easy. 

I have't used it, but is the ps package printing feature useful for
large things? The presets are all for small sizes.

John


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Billard" <stephen@s...>
wrote:
>
> No, but you can use Qimage to create the multiple images and print
to a file

> then print with QTR.
> 
> -Stephen
>  www.sbillard.org/Stephen
> 
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> > [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bjorn Helgaas
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:33 AM
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] printing multiple images on one sheet
> > 
> > 
> > Is there a way in QTR (using QTRGui) to print several images 
> > on one sheet?  For example, I'd like to print two 5x7 images 
> > on a single 8.5x11 sheet.  I can't see a way to do this, 
> > except possible to combine them in Photoshop, which seems 
> > like a hassle.
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> have't used it, but is the ps package printing feature useful for
> large things? The presets are all for small sizes.
> 
> John

In Picture Package click the Edit Layout button (lower right corner).
You can then select a custom paper size and set up 'zones' or image
placeholders however you like.

TonyR

Thanks Tony,

It's easy to use and adapt to whatever you need for multiples on a roll. 


John

> In Picture Package click the Edit Layout button (lower right corner).
> You can then select a custom paper size and set up 'zones' or image
> placeholders however you like.
> 
> TonyR
>

My vote is for qimage for "quality" multiple images.  It has very good
resizing algorithms, and will do a final sharpening to the resized
image appropriate to its dimensions.  

Set Qimage to output to a TIFF file in the folder monitored by QTR,
and it will automatically print.  Unless you change QTR curves with
each photo, it isn't a bad workflow.

If all you want is contact sheets, then it doesn't much matter what
workflow you choose.

Just my $.02
DRK
--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn@h...> wrote:

>
> Is there a way in QTR (using QTRGui) to print several images on
> one sheet?  For example, I'd like to print two 5x7 images on a
> single 8.5x11 sheet.  I can't see a way to do this, except possible
> to combine them in Photoshop, which seems like a hassle.
>

Is Qimage functional on a Mac platform?

John 



--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "davidkeasey" <davidkeasey@g...>
wrote:

>
> My vote is for qimage for "quality" multiple images.  It has very good
> resizing algorithms, and will do a final sharpening to the resized
> image appropriate to its dimensions.  
> 
> Set Qimage to output to a TIFF file in the folder monitored by QTR,
> and it will automatically print.  Unless you change QTR curves with
> each photo, it isn't a bad workflow.
> 
> If all you want is contact sheets, then it doesn't much matter what
> workflow you choose.
> 
> Just my $.02
> DRK
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn@h...> wrote:
> >
> > Is there a way in QTR (using QTRGui) to print several images on
> > one sheet?  For example, I'd like to print two 5x7 images on a
> > single 8.5x11 sheet.  I can't see a way to do this, except possible
> > to combine them in Photoshop, which seems like a hassle.
> >
>

No but isn't there software that will allow some PC
programs to work on a Mac?  I forget what it's called.

Tom

--- john dean <deanwork2003@...> wrote:


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Is Qimage functional on a Mac platform?

John

It is called Virtual PC and I've always hated it. It's like the worst
of both worlds. They may have improved it, but I doubt it. I just need
to have a pc around the studio for things like this and studio print.

John


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Tom Husband <thusband@s...> wrote:

>
> No but isn't there software that will allow some PC
> programs to work on a Mac?  I forget what it's called.
> 
> Tom
> 
> --- john dean <deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
> Is Qimage functional on a Mac platform?
> 
> John
>

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn@h...> wrote:
>
> Is there a way in QTR (using QTRGui) to print several images on
> one sheet?  For example, I'd like to print two 5x7 images on a
> single 8.5x11 sheet.  I can't see a way to do this, except possible
> to combine them in Photoshop, which seems like a hassle.

Sort of. It's more efficent if you're doing lots of images, say 20
images on 10 sheets.

Load one of the 5x7 images, turn on centering, then turn it off. Then
set the horizontal placement to 0.25, and run the image (or several
images, half of your "batch"). Then load the freshly printed sheet
(sheets) and set horizontal placement to 5.50 and run the other image
(or other half of the batch).

Or, as others have pointed out, set up QTR to monitor a folder, then
set up Qimage to print to a file, with a resolution of 720dpi, and
just use Qimage to do the queue and layout.

koloshor,

I am sure this has been covered before, but I recently bought Qimage 
and don't know how to use it with a program like QTR or IJC/OPM.  
From what I can tell, Qimage only seems to handle RGB data.

If I have 4 or 5 grayscale images (gamma 2.2, QTR Lab, or whatever 
embedded profile) that I want to gang and print together on a single 
sheet of paper from QTR, how would I do that?  Or, do I need to 
convert them to RGB first?  

Do you place them in Qimage, then print to file, and bring the final 
file into QTR?

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Regards, Lou Dina

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "koloshor" <wiz@n...> wrote:
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn@h...> 
wrote:
> >
> > Is there a way in QTR (using QTRGui) to print several images on
> > one sheet?  For example, I'd like to print two 5x7 images on a
> > single 8.5x11 sheet.  I can't see a way to do this, except 
possible
> > to combine them in Photoshop, which seems like a hassle.
> 
> Sort of. It's more efficent if you're doing lots of images, say 20
> images on 10 sheets.
> 
> Load one of the 5x7 images, turn on centering, then turn it off. 
Then
> set the horizontal placement to 0.25, and run the image (or several
> images, half of your "batch"). Then load the freshly printed sheet
> (sheets) and set horizontal placement to 5.50 and run the other 
image

> (or other half of the batch).
> 
> Or, as others have pointed out, set up QTR to monitor a folder, then
> set up Qimage to print to a file, with a resolution of 720dpi, and
> just use Qimage to do the queue and layout.
>

Thanks, Tom.

So, let's say I have some saved grayscale tiffs in a gamma 2.2 
space.  I can open those images in Qimage, arrange them as I like, 
set up Qimage to print to file using the QTR-RGB Matte profile, and 
that will give me an accurate print from QTR?

Or, would it be better to convert to some other space before bringing 
into Qiamge?

Since Qimage supposedly only works in RGB mode, I as assuning Qimage 
is doing some sort of invisible conversion the RGB, though I do 
recall the program showed the embedded gamma 2.2 profile in the 
queue.  So, maybe it leaves the image along until it is either 
printed to file or to my inkjet.

Any thoughts on getting the most out of Qimage would be appreciated.  

Do most people find that using Qimage for resampling and sharpening 
gives better results in QTR than just printing a straight PS image in 
QTR?

Regards,

Lou Dina
 

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Husband" <thusband@s...> 
wrote:
>
> Lou,
> 
> Yes, Qimage will convert your grayscale to RGB but you can use the 
QTR-RGB Matte Paper profile in Prtr ICC in the Job Options tab when 
you print to file in Qimage.  Print to file in Qimage and then bring 
it into QTR.
> 
> Tom
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Louis Dina 
>   To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 11:13 AM
>   Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: printing multiple images on one sheet
> 
> 
>   koloshor,
> 
>   I am sure this has been covered before, but I recently bought 
Qimage 
>   and don't know how to use it with a program like QTR or IJC/OPM.  
>   From what I can tell, Qimage only seems to handle RGB data.
> 
>   If I have 4 or 5 grayscale images (gamma 2.2, QTR Lab, or 
whatever 
>   embedded profile) that I want to gang and print together on a 
single 
>   sheet of paper from QTR, how would I do that?  Or, do I need to 
>   convert them to RGB first?  
> 
>   Do you place them in Qimage, then print to file, and bring the 
final 

>   file into QTR?
> 
>   Any assistance would be appreciated.
> 
>   Regards, Lou Dina
>

Thanks again, Tom.

I tried converted a file to QTR-RGB-matte profile in Qimage and then 
opened it up in PS.  It is indeed converted to an RGB file with the 
above profile embedded.  

I haven't used Create ICC with QTR yet, so I don't know how it fits 
into the scheme.  

Regards, Lou

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Husband" <thusband@s...> 
wrote:
>
> Hi Lou,
> 
> Yes, If I'm doing grayscale I'll work on the image in Photoshop 
using Gray-Lab as the working space if doing an RGB image it will be 
Adobe RGB.  Then when I'm ready to print to file in Qimage I'll use 
rgb-matte.icc as the printer icc in Qimage.  I'll also save 
resampling and final sharpening for Qimage as I think it does a 
better job than just about anything else.  Interpolation is Pyramid 
and the Smart Sharpen setting is at the default or lower depending 
the image.  It would be nice to have a preview on that.
> 
> I think Qimage converts the grayscale to RGB when you print to 
file.  It converts, resamples and sharpens in that order I believe.
> 
> I wish Qimage was able to work with grayscale all the way through 
and it's been discussed in the Qimage Yahoo group but the author 
doesn't see the need so, I think, that's why Roy made rgb-matte.icc.
> 
> Lately I've become a little better at making my own QTR curves  and 
the other day made a profile with QTR-Create-ICC.  I really like the 
results.  Now I'm unsure how I can fit Qimage into my workflow so 
I've been forced to use Photoshop for printing.
> 
> Does anybody know if the image has to be grayscale when printing 
with a QTR-Create-ICC made profile?
> 
> Tom
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Louis Dina 
>   To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 7:34 AM
>   Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: printing multiple images on one sheet
> 
> 
>   Thanks, Tom.
> 
>   So, let's say I have some saved grayscale tiffs in a gamma 2.2 
>   space.  I can open those images in Qimage, arrange them as I 
like, 
>   set up Qimage to print to file using the QTR-RGB Matte profile, 
and 
>   that will give me an accurate print from QTR?
> 
>   Or, would it be better to convert to some other space before 
bringing 
>   into Qiamge?
> 
>   Since Qimage supposedly only works in RGB mode, I as assuning 
Qimage 
>   is doing some sort of invisible conversion the RGB, though I do 
>   recall the program showed the embedded gamma 2.2 profile in the 
>   queue.  So, maybe it leaves the image along until it is either 
>   printed to file or to my inkjet.
> 
>   Any thoughts on getting the most out of Qimage would be 
appreciated.  
> 
>   Do most people find that using Qimage for resampling and 
sharpening 
>   gives better results in QTR than just printing a straight PS 
image in 

>   QTR?
> 
>   Regards,
> 
>   Lou Dina
>