QTR-Quadtone RIP

Hi Richard,
I am using the same setup as you.  You do not have to use the curve 
creator if you don't want to.  They are for creating custom 
profiles.  You can use it to create curves for unsupported inks or 
papers.  You can also use it for tweaking the existing curves for 
your printer.  I have tried to improve on the supplied curves for my 
printer and I have found I am not able to improve things much.  The 
existing profiles work very well with my printer.  There is a great 
deal of variation between individual printers, so YMMV.  To use the 
curve creator, you need a densitometer, spectrophotometer or scanner. 
(A scanner did not work well for me)

Are you finding the black is much lighter then when you use the Roark 
curves with UT7?  I find I can't get the blacks quite as black as 
with the curves, but the linearity makes QTR worth it to me.  If the 
black you are seeing is as black as with the curves, that may be the 
limit for EEM with Eboni.  There are some papers that will print 
blacker, but that is also a limitation of matt paper.

Hope this helps.

Peter

Richard,

What profile is assigned to your file when you save to
print? Did you do a soft proof with the qrt-matte
profile? How did it look? Is your monitor profiled?

Guy
--- Richard Gaines <rngaines@...> wrote:
> I am a new member and I am sure I am about to ask a
> question that has been asked before.  
> 
> I am using an Epson 1280 with UT2 inkset.  I have
> just tried the QTR and there is some improvement but
> I think I have not used it correctly.  The user
> guide seems straight forward until I get to
> "Creating and Editing Curves".  I can't tell if that
> is something I am supposed to do even though I am
> using Epson Enhanced Matt and a curve for that paper
> exists in the program.  
> 
> I don't seem to be getting the dynamic range I hoped
> for and the blacks are not that dense.  I prefer
> neutral prints so I am using neurtral curves at
> 100%.  The ink limit and gamma sliders don't seem to
> make much difference either.  
> 
> Have I missed something along the way or is this
> normal?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Richard


		
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Thanks for the response.  Actually, I am so new that I am not sure if I am
responding to Guy or the group by sending a reply.  If I have done it wrong,
sorry.

The questions your raised points out that I know even less than I thought.
I am not sure what profile is assigned when I send to print.  It is
grayscale and .tiff.  I did so a soft proof using view>custom>Epson Enhanced
matt.  The darks looks more dense and the whites a bit brighter.  I am
pleased with the neurtrality of the print.  No colors or tints seen.  That
is the first time it has looked that way.  I have not profiled the monitor
because I am getting a new one and it sounds like a big job if you don't
have the equipment or maybe I need to get the equipment.

Thanks again.

Richard
----- Original Message ----- 

From: "guy washburn" <guido02474@...>
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Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] New member


> Richard,
>
> What profile is assigned to your file when you save to
> print? Did you do a soft proof with the qrt-matte
> profile? How did it look? Is your monitor profiled?
>
> Guy
> --- Richard Gaines <rngaines@...> wrote:
> > I am a new member and I am sure I am about to ask a
> > question that has been asked before.
> >
> > I am using an Epson 1280 with UT2 inkset.  I have
> > just tried the QTR and there is some improvement but
> > I think I have not used it correctly.  The user
> > guide seems straight forward until I get to
> > "Creating and Editing Curves".  I can't tell if that
> > is something I am supposed to do even though I am
> > using Epson Enhanced Matt and a curve for that paper
> > exists in the program.
> >
> > I don't seem to be getting the dynamic range I hoped
> > for and the blacks are not that dense.  I prefer
> > neutral prints so I am using neurtral curves at
> > 100%.  The ink limit and gamma sliders don't seem to
> > make much difference either.
> >
> > Have I missed something along the way or is this
> > normal?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Richard
>
>
>
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Hi Richard,

QTR provides a color space (gray-lab.icc) and several
profiles (qtr-matte.icc and qtrphoto.icc) that can get
more predictable reliable results with QTR. Copy these
to c:\Program files\Common files\Adobe\Color\Profiles

Use the gray-lab as your working grayscale color
space. It is a modified LAB color space that just uses
L. Use convert to profile when bringing a file into
photoshop. Gray-lab provides a much more accurate way
of handling shadow values than other grayscale spaces.


Use the other two profiles when doing a soft proof
(pick under custom colors) or to convert to just
before saving a copy for printing. The qtr-matte is
for matte papers qtr-photo is for glossy papers. The
proofing is quite accurate except for the warm-cool
tone of the paper/ink curves.

A calibrated monitor will help you accurately match
your prints to the screen. This can be done with the
Adobe Gamma program or in a more automated fashion
with a profiling system with a puck and software.
There is a lot of opinion about which automated system
is best but for b&w the Pantone ColorVision Spyder2
kit for $149 does a good job and is a great value. 

Hope this helps!

Guy

--- Richard Gaines <rngaines@...> wrote:
> Thanks for the response.  Actually, I am so new that
> I am not sure if I am
> responding to Guy or the group by sending a reply. 
> If I have done it wrong,
> sorry.
> 
> The questions your raised points out that I know
> even less than I thought.
> I am not sure what profile is assigned when I send
> to print.  It is
> grayscale and .tiff.  I did so a soft proof using
> view>custom>Epson Enhanced
> matt.  The darks looks more dense and the whites a
> bit brighter.  I am
> pleased with the neurtrality of the print.  No
> colors or tints seen.  That
> is the first time it has looked that way.  I have
> not profiled the monitor
> because I am getting a new one and it sounds like a
> big job if you don't
> have the equipment or maybe I need to get the
> equipment.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Richard
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "guy washburn" <guido02474@...>
> To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] New member
> 
> 
> > Richard,
> >
> > What profile is assigned to your file when you
> save to
> > print? Did you do a soft proof with the qrt-matte
> > profile? How did it look? Is your monitor
> profiled?
> >
> > Guy
> > --- Richard Gaines <rngaines@...> wrote:
> > > I am a new member and I am sure I am about to
> ask a
> > > question that has been asked before.
> > >
> > > I am using an Epson 1280 with UT2 inkset.  I
> have
> > > just tried the QTR and there is some improvement
> but
> > > I think I have not used it correctly.  The user
> > > guide seems straight forward until I get to
> > > "Creating and Editing Curves".  I can't tell if
> that
> > > is something I am supposed to do even though I
> am
> > > using Epson Enhanced Matt and a curve for that
> paper
> > > exists in the program.
> > >
> > > I don't seem to be getting the dynamic range I
> hoped
> > > for and the blacks are not that dense.  I prefer
> > > neutral prints so I am using neurtral curves at
> > > 100%.  The ink limit and gamma sliders don't
> seem to
> > > make much difference either.
> > >
> > > Have I missed something along the way or is this
> > > normal?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Richard
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
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> > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site
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Hi there,

New member just joined up,

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Welcome!

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Hi there,

New member just joined up,

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