QTR-Quadtone RIP

The notion of creating my own curves for QTR is new for me.  But I
want to give it a shot.  At the same time, I feel I have reached the
limit of the capabilities of scanner based Monaco EZ Color for general
color print profile generation.

It appears that the newly merged X-Rite with GretagMacbeth has taken
the Pulse package off the market.  All of the current offerings are
much more expensive.

I have found a couple dealers who still stock the Pulse at a
reasonable price.  I am looking for some guidance here.  Should I buy
this apparently discontinued product, and is it really the best
moderately priced tool for my two stated purposes?

Thank You.

George Butch
Plantation, FL

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "George Butch" <GButch@...> wrote:
>
> The notion of creating my own curves for QTR is new for me.  But I
> want to give it a shot.  At the same time, I feel I have reached the
> limit of the capabilities of scanner based Monaco EZ Color for 
general
> color print profile generation.
> 
> It appears that the newly merged X-Rite with GretagMacbeth has taken
> the Pulse package off the market.  All of the current offerings are
> much more expensive.
> 
> I have found a couple dealers who still stock the Pulse at a
> reasonable price.  I am looking for some guidance here.  Should I 
buy
> this apparently discontinued product, and is it really the best
> moderately priced tool for my two stated purposes?
> 
> Thank You.
> 
> George Butch
> Plantation, FL
>


George,

Get it and don't look back! I bought the unit about 2 months ago and 
it is has been the most liberating piece of equipment I've ever 
purchased. It will allow you to shed the restrictions of limited 
paper choices and expand your capabilities with precision. The 
qulaity of both my color and B&W has leaped exponentially. 

Couple things, make sure the unit is UV based, it will say on the 
underside of the unit, and be sure it is origanally factory sealed. 

A learning curve comes with it, but once you get a handle on it, 
you'll wonder why the piece is so under valued. There are many that 
use it around here and there are a few supplemental software / 
hardware components that you may consider like the base 
board  "travel pack" that comes with colorshopX, and a couple free 
downloads from X-rite (tech support is still excellent).

Run this stuff down in the next day or so, I know they are quickly 
disappearing. 

Roman

I'm in the market for a printer profiler too and just home from  
MacWorld in San Francisco where I talked with Epson for an hour. They  
liked the Pulse, and thought it was a very solid, well designed and  
useful tool. That said, X-Rite buying GretagMacbeth gives X-Rite  
about 90% of the market share in the profiling department (according  
to this Epson tech) and they decided to scrap the Pulse and go with  
the Eye-One system, which can cost more money depending on  
configuration. Funny thing was neither product was there at MacWorld :(

Alan

On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:50 PM, George Butch wrote:

> The notion of creating my own curves for QTR is new for me. But I
> want to give it a shot. At the same time, I feel I have reached the
> limit of the capabilities of scanner based Monaco EZ Color for general
> color print profile generation.
>
> It appears that the newly merged X-Rite with GretagMacbeth has taken
> the Pulse package off the market. All of the current offerings are
> much more expensive.
>
> I have found a couple dealers who still stock the Pulse at a
> reasonable price. I am looking for some guidance here. Should I buy
> this apparently discontinued product, and is it really the best
> moderately priced tool for my two stated purposes?
>
> Thank You.
>
> George Butch
> Plantation, FL
>
>
>

what's the other 10% at this point? They now also own the company that owns Colorvision. 
Talk about a monopoly.
Color management is one area that a lot more competition might benifit. When was the 
last time you easily accessed useful consumer comparisons between the various profiling 
products, and the quality of their profiles?
Tyler

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Alan Kearney <alan_kearney@...> wrote:

>
> I'm in the market for a printer profiler too and just home from  
> MacWorld in San Francisco where I talked with Epson for an hour. They  
> liked the Pulse, and thought it was a very solid, well designed and  
> useful tool. That said, X-Rite buying GretagMacbeth gives X-Rite  
> about 90% of the market share in the profiling department (according  
> to this Epson tech) and they decided to scrap the Pulse and go with  
> the Eye-One system, which can cost more money depending on  
> configuration. Funny thing was neither product was there at MacWorld :(
> 
> Alan
> 
> On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:50 PM, George Butch wrote:
> 
> > The notion of creating my own curves for QTR is new for me. But I
> > want to give it a shot. At the same time, I feel I have reached the
> > limit of the capabilities of scanner based Monaco EZ Color for general
> > color print profile generation.
> >
> > It appears that the newly merged X-Rite with GretagMacbeth has taken
> > the Pulse package off the market. All of the current offerings are
> > much more expensive.
> >
> > I have found a couple dealers who still stock the Pulse at a
> > reasonable price. I am looking for some guidance here. Should I buy
> > this apparently discontinued product, and is it really the best
> > moderately priced tool for my two stated purposes?
> >
> > Thank You.
> >
> > George Butch
> > Plantation, FL
> >
> >
> >
>

Tyler, the way the Epson engineer (according to his badge at  
MacWorld:) described it was in the US X-Rite and the Pulse had about  
60% market share, with Eye-One and others filling in the 40%.  
Overseas, Europe primarily, GretagMacbeth had 60 - 70% of market  
share. Again, this is all third hand info from an Epson printer  
employee, that IMHO was very knowledgeable about the 9800 we were  
standing in front of, discussing a profiling tool :)

That said, he mentioned that the Eye-One could "morph" into a number  
of different handheld and machine held (robotic) devices and that may  
have been the reason Eye-One won out? The Pulse is hand held, uses  
the very accurate E-Rite DTP94 "puck" as the "reader". Both systems  
can be used to calibrate monitors as well as print output.

Obviously I don't know/have the answer to your question about who  
holds the other 10%, and I can agree that competition is the "mother  
of invention" but the choice was made to future support Eye-One. As  
you found out, you can still by the Pulse, but is it a dead end  
product??? Seems like it.

How many of us bought the much touted Mac IIx(?) computer platform,  
as being the culmination of years of Apple research, only to have  
Apple drop the line shortly after release? I did:( Or the dual IBM or  
Quad G5 tower, only to have Apple jump to Intel chips..... again, I  
did:)

Alan

On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:14 PM, Tyler Boley wrote:

> what's the other 10% at this point? They now also own the company  
> that owns Colorvision.
> Talk about a monopoly.
> Color management is one area that a lot more competition might  
> benifit. When was the
> last time you easily accessed useful consumer comparisons between  
> the various profiling
> products, and the quality of their profiles?
> Tyler
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Alan Kearney <alan_kearney@...>  
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in the market for a printer profiler too and just home from
> > MacWorld in San Francisco where I talked with Epson for an hour.  
> They
> > liked the Pulse, and thought it was a very solid, well designed and
> > useful tool. That said, X-Rite buying GretagMacbeth gives X-Rite
> > about 90% of the market share in the profiling department (according
> > to this Epson tech) and they decided to scrap the Pulse and go with
> > the Eye-One system, which can cost more money depending on
> > configuration. Funny thing was neither product was there at  
> MacWorld :(
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:50 PM, George Butch wrote:
> >
> > > The notion of creating my own curves for QTR is new for me. But I
> > > want to give it a shot. At the same time, I feel I have reached  
> the
> > > limit of the capabilities of scanner based Monaco EZ Color for  
> general
> > > color print profile generation.
> > >
> > > It appears that the newly merged X-Rite with GretagMacbeth has  
> taken
> > > the Pulse package off the market. All of the current offerings are
> > > much more expensive.
> > >
> > > I have found a couple dealers who still stock the Pulse at a
> > > reasonable price. I am looking for some guidance here. Should I  
> buy
> > > this apparently discontinued product, and is it really the best
> > > moderately priced tool for my two stated purposes?
> > >
> > > Thank You.
> > >
> > > George Butch
> > > Plantation, FL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

George

you are correct, the Pulse was discontinued in Dec'06. That said 
they have stated that they will be offering support for 7 years, and 
an aggressive upgrade path should parts become obsolete during this 
time. I had my Pulse repaired only 2 weeks ago, very fast and 
efficient service, and under warranty, so you won't see me complain 
about the situation. Also as you've noted, there are some very 
attractive prices just at the moment while they clear there stock. 
Basically I don't regret at all my choice to purchase 2 years ago 
when it was released, and I enjoy using it very much, and anticipate 
many more years service from it. I don't feel that I have to upgrade 
on an annual basis; it does everything that I want, and I anticipate 
it out living me, so a thumbs up from me. When I spoke to X-Rite 
last week, they did mention the worldwide sales of the eye1 
as being one of the factors that swayed them to go with that 
approach, but I guess we will never know the truth, but I suspect 
the sales and marketing boys called the ball due to the morphing
possibility of the system. I didn't need all of that when I 
purchased and I don't need it now.

just my 2 cents for what it's worth, I think you'll enjoy whatever
you go with,

Jamie



--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "George Butch" <GButch@...> 
wrote:

The notion of creating my own curves for QTR is new for me.  But I
want to give it a shot.  At the same time, I feel I have reached the
limit of the capabilities of scanner based Monaco EZ Color for 
general color print profile generation.

It appears that the newly merged X-Rite with GretagMacbeth has taken
the Pulse package off the market.  All of the current offerings are
much more expensive.

I have found a couple dealers who still stock the Pulse at a
reasonable price.  I am looking for some guidance here.  Should I buy
this apparently discontinued product, and is it really the best
moderately priced tool for my two stated purposes?

Thank You.

George Butch
Plantation, FL

----Messaggio originale----
Da: jlcreed@...
Data: 11/01/2007 18.56
A: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Ogg: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: X-Rite Pulse







George

you are correct, the Pulse was discontinued in Dec'06. That said 
they have stated that they will be offering support for 7 years, and 
an aggressive upgrade path should parts become obsolete during this 
time. I had my Pulse repaired only 2 weeks ago, very fast and 
efficient service, and under warranty, so you won't see me complain 
about the situation. Also as you've noted, there are some very 
attractive prices just at the moment while they clear there stock. 
Basically I don't regret at all my choice to purchase 2 years ago 
when it was released, and I enjoy using it very much, and anticipate 
many more years service from it. I don't feel that I have to upgrade 
on an annual basis; it does everything that I want, and I anticipate 
it out living me, so a thumbs up from me. When I spoke to X-Rite 
last week, they did mention the worldwide sales of the eye1 
as being one of the factors that swayed them to go with that 
approach, but I guess we will never know the truth, but I suspect 
the sales and marketing boys called the ball due to the morphing
possibility of the system. I didn't need all of that when I 
purchased and I don't need it now.

just my 2 cents for what it's worth, I think you'll enjoy whatever
you go with,

Jamie

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "George Butch" <GButch@...> 
wrote:

The notion of creating my own curves for QTR is new for me. But I
want to give it a shot. At the same time, I feel I have reached the
limit of the capabilities of scanner based Monaco EZ Color for 
general color print profile generation.

It appears that the newly merged X-Rite with GretagMacbeth has taken
the Pulse package off the market. All of the current offerings are
much more expensive.

I have found a couple dealers who still stock the Pulse at a
reasonable price. I am looking for some guidance here. Should I buy
this apparently discontinued product, and is it really the best
moderately priced tool for my two stated purposes?

Thank You.

George Butch
Plantation, FL

 





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--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "George Butch" <GButch@...> wrote:
>
> I have found a couple dealers who still stock the Pulse at a
> reasonable price.  I am looking for some guidance here.  Should I buy
> this apparently discontinued product, and is it really the best
> moderately priced tool for my two stated purposes?

Well, I had the most interesting experience with my new Pulse, and
traded some other Pulse stories on dpReview.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1003&message=21563726

To summarize: my particular Pulse came from Adorama. It was factory
sealed, not used, but it was about two years old (X-Rite doesn't care,
their warranty starts from the purchase date, not the manufacturer
date). It needed a firmware update, and some of the packing material
had outgassed a substance that we Pulse users have come to call
"slime" all over the printer calibrator and monitor calibrator. It
cleaned right up, and the cleanup was necessary because the slime was
also on the outer lens and was keeping the Pulse from calibrating.
Once cleaned up, I checked the Pulse for accuracy against a big bench
spectro, and it was on within 1 delta E (very good, beyond your
ability to notice visually).

Now, this aside, the Pulse requires a few tricks for working with
monochrome RIPS. Normally, the Pulse can't read strips on a monochrome
target, it has to be used in patch reading mode, which is much slower.
In order to read in strips, the firmware in the Pulse needs to read a
color coded strip at the top of a target called the "Target ID" or
TID, and three color coded blocks at the beginning of each row of
patches called the "Row ID" or RID. (The latest Pulse firmware
provides a "no TID no RID" mode, but no software currently supports
this). Several of us have been getting around this by printing targets
on a color printer, then cutting out the TID and RID and pasting them
on a monochrome target.

There is (was - don't think it is available now, but was a free  
download) a little utility called Quickread that will allow the Pulse  
to read strips without a TID.  I have the Mac version.  I think  
Quickread was actually a precursor to ColorPort because the GUI looks  
the similar.

Carl

On Jan 12, 2007, at 2:22 PM, koloshor wrote:

> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "George Butch" <GButch@...> wrote:
>>
>> I have found a couple dealers who still stock the Pulse at a
>> reasonable price.  I am looking for some guidance here.  Should I buy
>> this apparently discontinued product, and is it really the best
>> moderately priced tool for my two stated purposes?
>
> Well, I had the most interesting experience with my new Pulse, and
> traded some other Pulse stories on dpReview.
>
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1003&message=21563726
>
> To summarize: my particular Pulse came from Adorama. It was factory
> sealed, not used, but it was about two years old (X-Rite doesn't care,
> their warranty starts from the purchase date, not the manufacturer
> date). It needed a firmware update, and some of the packing material
> had outgassed a substance that we Pulse users have come to call
> "slime" all over the printer calibrator and monitor calibrator. It
> cleaned right up, and the cleanup was necessary because the slime was
> also on the outer lens and was keeping the Pulse from calibrating.
> Once cleaned up, I checked the Pulse for accuracy against a big bench
> spectro, and it was on within 1 delta E (very good, beyond your
> ability to notice visually).
>
> Now, this aside, the Pulse requires a few tricks for working with
> monochrome RIPS. Normally, the Pulse can't read strips on a monochrome
> target, it has to be used in patch reading mode, which is much slower.
> In order to read in strips, the firmware in the Pulse needs to read a
> color coded strip at the top of a target called the "Target ID" or
> TID, and three color coded blocks at the beginning of each row of
> patches called the "Row ID" or RID. (The latest Pulse firmware
> provides a "no TID no RID" mode, but no software currently supports
> this). Several of us have been getting around this by printing targets
> on a color printer, then cutting out the TID and RID and pasting them
> on a monochrome target.

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield <list@...> wrote:
>
> There is (was - don't think it is available now, but was a free  
> download) a little utility called Quickread that will allow the Pulse  
> to read strips without a TID.  I have the Mac version.  I think  
> Quickread was actually a precursor to ColorPort because the GUI looks  
> the similar.

Hi Carl.

Thanks for the info. I checked my file library, and it appears that I
downloaded the PC version of Quickread back in March 2005. I just
installed it. I think you're right about its pedigree re. ColorPort. 

And it can read without a TID, but not without a RID, and I'm
assuming, not without the patches being pretty dang close to 6mm wide
(but why 12mm tall?)

I have several charts that are printed with 1/4 inch squares, 1280 on
an 8x10 chart (although 64 squares are a binary chart ID, hopefully
unique).

Anyone have a copy of Quickread in the download form?  I'd like to use that with my newly 
acquired Pulse if possible to help calibrate QTR.  I guess I'd prefer PC, but acutually would 
like it for both platforms, as I have one of each here.


---Michael

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "koloshor" <koloshor@...> wrote:

>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield <list@> wrote:
> >
> > There is (was - don't think it is available now, but was a free  
> > download) a little utility called Quickread that will allow the Pulse  
> > to read strips without a TID.  I have the Mac version.  I think  
> > Quickread was actually a precursor to ColorPort because the GUI looks  
> > the similar.
> 
> Hi Carl.
> 
> Thanks for the info. I checked my file library, and it appears that I
> downloaded the PC version of Quickread back in March 2005. I just
> installed it. I think you're right about its pedigree re. ColorPort. 
> 
> And it can read without a TID, but not without a RID, and I'm
> assuming, not without the patches being pretty dang close to 6mm wide
> (but why 12mm tall?)
> 
> I have several charts that are printed with 1/4 inch squares, 1280 on
> an 8x10 chart (although 64 squares are a binary chart ID, hopefully
> unique).
>

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "michael_mutmansky" <michael@...>
wrote:
>
> Anyone have a copy of Quickread in the download form?  I'd like to
use that with my newly 
> acquired Pulse if possible to help calibrate QTR.  I guess I'd
prefer PC, but acutually would 
> like it for both platforms, as I have one of each here.

Michael, it could be arranged, but I don't think it will help you. As
far as I can tell, Quickread can't do anything that ColorPort can't
do. It lets you read as many lines as you want without a TID (the
multicolored barcode at the top of the sheet) but each line still
needs a unique RID (1-3 colored blocks at the beginning of the line)
to be able to read in strip mode. It won't work if you're reading a
pure monochrome set (like K7 or Wiz7) or a reduced gamut set like MIS
UT7 or UT3D. For any of those sets, you'll have to print a colored
strip of RIDs on a color printer, then paste that onto the monochrome
chart.

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "michael_mutmansky" <michael@...> 
wrote:
>
> Anyone have a copy of Quickread in the download form?  I'd like to 
use that with my newly 
> acquired Pulse if possible to help calibrate QTR.  I guess I'd 
prefer PC, but acutually would 
> like it for both platforms, as I have one of each here.
> 
> 
> ---Michael
> 
I would be interested in this too, and would appreciate receiving a 
copy.

A passing thought:  if this software is in the public domain, would 
the moderator be prepared to have it made available in the files 
section of this board?

Regards

ColinGRUK

So I purchased the Pulse system from the good folks at Calumet.  I
installed and registered it.  But it is apparently not compatible with
my Matrox G450 dual head display adapter.  I get an error when I try
to launch that says, "The display device or driver does not support
color table correction."  This came as a surprise since I had been
successfully profiling my display with EZ Color for several years.

I have spoken with Matrox and my main board vendor MSI (Newly
installed board) asking for suggestions.  I thought I'd ask here as
well.  

Running Win XP Pro on a Pentium 4 system.

Suggestions ???

Thanks.

George Butch
Plantation, FL

koloshor,

OK, thanks, I did get a Mac copy here, so I will play with that.  I was under the impression 
it was possible to get spot reading from the unit through this program, or maybe another 
program?  I don't need the automation, but would like the ability to make decent spot 
readings.

I have an old XRite 400 here, and I think it is working well, but I sometimed get 
inconsistant results out of it, and am not sure it it has gone bad.  I thought I might use the 
Pulse to replace it.

---Michael


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "koloshor" <koloshor@...> wrote:

>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "michael_mutmansky" <michael@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone have a copy of Quickread in the download form?  I'd like to
> use that with my newly 
> > acquired Pulse if possible to help calibrate QTR.  I guess I'd
> prefer PC, but acutually would 
> > like it for both platforms, as I have one of each here.
> 
> Michael, it could be arranged, but I don't think it will help you. As
> far as I can tell, Quickread can't do anything that ColorPort can't
> do. It lets you read as many lines as you want without a TID (the
> multicolored barcode at the top of the sheet) but each line still
> needs a unique RID (1-3 colored blocks at the beginning of the line)
> to be able to read in strip mode. It won't work if you're reading a
> pure monochrome set (like K7 or Wiz7) or a reduced gamut set like MIS
> UT7 or UT3D. For any of those sets, you'll have to print a colored
> strip of RIDs on a color printer, then paste that onto the monochrome
> chart.
>

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "michael_mutmansky" <michael@...>
wrote:
>
> koloshor,
> 
> OK, thanks, I did get a Mac copy here, so I will play with that.  I
was under the impression 
> it was possible to get spot reading from the unit through this
program, or maybe another 
> program?  I don't need the automation, but would like the ability to
make decent spot 
> readings.

Michael, 

The Pulse can do spot readings quite well. I typically use either
ColorPort or ToolCrib (both free downloads from X-Rite).

QuickRead does have the coolest display when you're making spot
readings. You get to see a LAB "bullseye" for the current reading, and
a color patch for each reading as you make them.

ColorPort is fine when you want readings to "match" a reference file.
If you're reading a target with a specific number of patches, like a
21 step wedge, you can create a target for that in ColorPort, and read
it, one square at a time. If you're not sure ho many readings you're
going to take, i.e. you just want to read all over a print, this won't
work too well.

For that kind of reading, I use ToolCrib, which simply dumps the
readings right into any running program. It gets LAB readings right
into a notepad window, a matlab array, or even an Excel spreadsheet.
 
> I have an old XRite 400 here, and I think it is working well, but I
sometimed get 
> inconsistant results out of it, and am not sure it it has gone bad.
 I thought I might use the 
> Pulse to replace it.

What's the 400 doing? 400 series have user cleanable optics. You can
find the instructions on the X-Rite site. I cleaned my 414 when she
started giving inconsistent yellow readings, and she was fine after that.

Good luck.

This is a follow-up to my post regarding the difficulty of operating
the  X-rite Pulse software with my dual head Matrox G450 display card.
 It turns out there is a known issue when the card is driving two
monitors.  Disabling the second display allows the Pulse to load and
work properly.

Unfortunately, disabling and enabling the second display channel
involves a computer reboot each time.  Inconvenient, but workable. 

It is curious that this problem plagues the Pulse, but not EZ Color. 
My version of the Pulse software is 1.0.  I have asked X-Rite if there
is a newer version.

George Butch
Plantation, FL

K-,

The Xrite 400 seems to be working correctly, but it is B&W, and at times I think I feel that I 
may be getting inconsistant readings, like it will read high for a little and then low for a little, 
so the resultant curve has a slight sinusoidal shape to it.

That said, I'd like to be able to get color readings, and the Pulse would work for that better, 
although that is not important for the QTR work.


---Michael

Please let us know what you find out. I have a Matrox G450 that I
acquired especially for use with Photoshop and I like it a lot. I am
not using Pulse, but it would be good to know about compatibility
issues. Just a tip: make sure you have the latest Matrox driver. I
know I did update mine after installing the video board.

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "George Butch" <GButch@...> wrote:

>
> So I purchased the Pulse system from the good folks at Calumet.  I
> installed and registered it.  But it is apparently not compatible with
> my Matrox G450 dual head display adapter.  I get an error when I try
> to launch that says, "The display device or driver does not support
> color table correction."  This came as a surprise since I had been
> successfully profiling my display with EZ Color for several years.
> 
> I have spoken with Matrox and my main board vendor MSI (Newly
> installed board) asking for suggestions.  I thought I'd ask here as
> well.  
> 
> Running Win XP Pro on a Pentium 4 system.
> 
> Suggestions ???
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> George Butch
> Plantation, FL
>

Philip,

The answer is a bit convoluted.

First, the Pulse software works well if you disable the second monitor
while generation profiles.  In windows, even with the latest Matrox
drivers, this requires a reboot of the computer.

Second, the Pulse will load and work for print profiling, without
disabling the second monitor, if you have the latest version of the
Pulse software.  1.0.2 is available for download from the X-rite
website.  It is a very big download.

You still must disable the second monitor to profile the primary
monitor.  

I still have the EZ Color software I used before buying the Pulse.  It
will allow monitor profiling without disabling the second display, so
for now I use EZ Color for the display and Pulse for the printers.  It
is necessary to remove Monaco Gamma after generating the profiles
since it will not load with Pulse installed.

One more point.  The Matrox G450 has a single LUT.  But EZ Color can
still generate a profile for the second monitor that will be
recognized by PhotoShop.  And there is a utility that can be
downloaded from the Microsoft website that will allow Windows to
handle applying the monitor profiles, eliminating the need for Monaco
Gamma.  It installs and becomes a color profile control applet in the
Windows Control Panel.

George...

Thanks for all the info. I never had good results from EZColor. I am
now driving a DTP41 with Fuji Colourkit and getting good profiles. 
I can recommend Monaco Optix XR Pro for monitor calibration. I used to
use an older version of the Spyder, but the new Optix provides
superior calibration.

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "George Butch" <GButch@...> wrote:

>
> Philip,
> 
> The answer is a bit convoluted.
> 
> First, the Pulse software works well if you disable the second monitor
> while generation profiles.  In windows, even with the latest Matrox
> drivers, this requires a reboot of the computer.
> 
> Second, the Pulse will load and work for print profiling, without
> disabling the second monitor, if you have the latest version of the
> Pulse software.  1.0.2 is available for download from the X-rite
> website.  It is a very big download.
> 
> You still must disable the second monitor to profile the primary
> monitor.  
> 
> I still have the EZ Color software I used before buying the Pulse.  It
> will allow monitor profiling without disabling the second display, so
> for now I use EZ Color for the display and Pulse for the printers.  It
> is necessary to remove Monaco Gamma after generating the profiles
> since it will not load with Pulse installed.
> 
> One more point.  The Matrox G450 has a single LUT.  But EZ Color can
> still generate a profile for the second monitor that will be
> recognized by PhotoShop.  And there is a utility that can be
> downloaded from the Microsoft website that will allow Windows to
> handle applying the monitor profiles, eliminating the need for Monaco
> Gamma.  It installs and becomes a color profile control applet in the
> Windows Control Panel.
> 
> George...
>