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2009-06-09 by legionhwp
I've maxed out my large Cyndustries PS and have a 2nd +/- Motm PS I've wired into my empty six pak. Whenever I've used any other synth (serge, fenix, etc I always used the green ground out on the Cyn PS. What do I need to do to intergrate the new MOTM ps with my existing Cyn/Modcan system? I have combo/distro cards in all my Sixpaks so I could wire them in series if needed to. Any suggestions appreciated. D_
2009-06-10 by stevemodularland
#1 Test it to make sure it makes a clean + and - 15V #2 Make a cable to connect it properly to the distro card #3 Test the distro card to double check that voltages are correct #4 Plug in your modules #5 Make a drink based with clear rum Do NOT "add" power in "parallel" with the other power supply. Power supplies aren't passive lead-acid batteries. --- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, "legionhwp" <legionhwp@...> wrote:
> > I've maxed out my large Cyndustries PS and have a 2nd +/- Motm PS I've wired into my empty six pak. Whenever I've used any other synth (serge, fenix, etc I always used the green ground out on the Cyn PS. What do I need to do to intergrate the new MOTM ps with my existing Cyn/Modcan system? > > I have combo/distro cards in all my Sixpaks so I could wire them in series if needed to. > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > D_ >
2009-06-10 by legionhwp
That (grounding) was my main original concern. Can someone confirm this one way or another? If the case is yes can I do that via the sixpaks or should I wire the grounds of the two power supplies directly? thanks! --- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, Chris Muir <cbm@...> wrote:
> Shouldn't there be something about connecting the grounds on the old > and the new supply in this list? > > > On Jun 10, 2009, at 7:25 AM, stevemodularland wrote: > > #1 Test it to make sure it makes a clean + and - 15V > > > > #2 Make a cable to connect it properly to the distro card > > > > #3 Test the distro card to double check that voltages are correct > > > > #4 Plug in your modules > > > > #5 Make a drink based with clear rum > > > > Do NOT "add" power in "parallel" with the other power supply. Power > > supplies aren't passive lead-acid batteries. > > > > --- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, "legionhwp" > > <legionhwp@> wrote: > > > > > > I've maxed out my large Cyndustries PS and have a 2nd +/- Motm PS > > I've wired into my empty six pak. Whenever I've used any other synth > > (serge, fenix, etc I always used the green ground out on the Cyn PS. > > What do I need to do to intergrate the new MOTM ps with my existing > > Cyn/Modcan system? > > > > > > I have combo/distro cards in all my Sixpaks so I could wire them > > in series if needed to. > > > > > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > > > > > D_ > > > > > > > > > > > Chris Muir > cbm@... > http://www.xfade.com >
2009-06-10 by Chris Muir
Shouldn't there be something about connecting the grounds on the old and the new supply in this list? On Jun 10, 2009, at 7:25 AM, stevemodularland wrote: > #1 Test it to make sure it makes a clean + and - 15V > > #2 Make a cable to connect it properly to the distro card > > #3 Test the distro card to double check that voltages are correct > > #4 Plug in your modules > > #5 Make a drink based with clear rum > > Do NOT "add" power in "parallel" with the other power supply. Power > supplies aren't passive lead-acid batteries. > > --- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, "legionhwp" > <legionhwp@...> wrote: > > > > I've maxed out my large Cyndustries PS and have a 2nd +/- Motm PS > I've wired into my empty six pak. Whenever I've used any other synth > (serge, fenix, etc I always used the green ground out on the Cyn PS. > What do I need to do to intergrate the new MOTM ps with my existing > Cyn/Modcan system? > > > > I have combo/distro cards in all my Sixpaks so I could wire them > in series if needed to. > > > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > > > D_ > > > > > Chris Muir cbm@well.com http://www.xfade.com
2009-06-10 by James R. Coplin
Well, it depends which "ground". The ground on the Cyndustries supply is likely from the other side of the transformer and not the mains side. Ideally you would tap off the transformer ground from the side that's stepped down. This typically would require you to open the other supply if it isn't furnished and break it out. You could use the mains ground but that is likely to be full of noise and all sorts of audio nastyness from everything else in the building. It will provide a common ground but it also may induce all sorts of hum etc. James R. Coplin From: The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of legionhwp Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:09 PM To: The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com Subject: [The_Cyndustries_List] Re: Adding a 2nd Power Supply to system? That (grounding) was my main original concern. Can someone confirm this one way or another? If the case is yes can I do that via the sixpaks or should I wire the grounds of the two power supplies directly? thanks! --- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com <mailto:The_Cyndustries_List%40yahoogroups.com> , Chris Muir <cbm@...> wrote: > Shouldn't there be something about connecting the grounds on the old > and the new supply in this list? > > > On Jun 10, 2009, at 7:25 AM, stevemodularland wrote: > > #1 Test it to make sure it makes a clean + and - 15V > > > > #2 Make a cable to connect it properly to the distro card > > > > #3 Test the distro card to double check that voltages are correct > > > > #4 Plug in your modules > > > > #5 Make a drink based with clear rum > > > > Do NOT "add" power in "parallel" with the other power supply. Power > > supplies aren't passive lead-acid batteries. > > > > --- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com <mailto:The_Cyndustries_List%40yahoogroups.com> , "legionhwp"
> > <legionhwp@> wrote: > > > > > > I've maxed out my large Cyndustries PS and have a 2nd +/- Motm PS > > I've wired into my empty six pak. Whenever I've used any other synth > > (serge, fenix, etc I always used the green ground out on the Cyn PS. > > What do I need to do to intergrate the new MOTM ps with my existing > > Cyn/Modcan system? > > > > > > I have combo/distro cards in all my Sixpaks so I could wire them > > in series if needed to. > > > > > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > > > > > D_ > > > > > > > > > > > Chris Muir > cbm@... > http://www.xfade.com >
2009-06-10 by Cynthia Webster
Howdy! If you want to use another brand of power supply that will work as long as the grounds from the two separate systems are connected. This has nothing to do with the third wire on the mains plug, and nothing to do with grounding to the physical case of the SixPacs themselves. Not recommended because you will add noise to your system. Instead, please visit the following link and please see below... http://www.cyndustries.com/modules_powerdist-FAQ.cfm (This link is available from either of our power supply pages on the website). On the circuit board of each of the power supplies there is a "0 Volts" center output pin between the plus and minus 15 volt output pins... This is the Ground that you do want. These center pins from each supply need to be connected. For this reason we have our famous green banana jack on the front panel of our power supplies, and Serge has a black banana jack on their cases. http://www.cyndustries.com/modules_POWSU_medium.cfm you can simply plug a banana cable from one power supply to the other. if your other brand of power supply has no green Grounding jack then you can simply add one by drilling a 5/8 inch hole and adding one. Black is actually the technically correct color, (as seen on the Motm jack interface panel) but I chose green as in "red is Right channel" and "Green is Ground" (a North American mains standard color). The green stripe at the bottom of the Banana Cable ordering Page offers a "Grounding kit" which should provide everything you need. http://www.cyndustries.com/pomona.cfm Best Wishes and hope this addresses everything! Cynthia Chris Muir wrote:
> Shouldn't there be something about connecting the grounds on the old > and the new supply in this list? > > > On Jun 10, 2009, at 7:25 AM, stevemodularland wrote: > >> #1 Test it to make sure it makes a clean + and - 15V >> >> #2 Make a cable to connect it properly to the distro card >> >> #3 Test the distro card to double check that voltages are correct >> >> #4 Plug in your modules >> >> #5 Make a drink based with clear rum >> >> Do NOT "add" power in "parallel" with the other power supply. Power >> supplies aren't passive lead-acid batteries. >> >> --- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, "legionhwp" >> <legionhwp@...> wrote: >> >>> I've maxed out my large Cyndustries PS and have a 2nd +/- Motm PS >>> >> I've wired into my empty six pak. Whenever I've used any other synth >> (serge, fenix, etc I always used the green ground out on the Cyn PS. >> What do I need to do to intergrate the new MOTM ps with my existing >> Cyn/Modcan system? >> >>> I have combo/distro cards in all my Sixpaks so I could wire them >>> >> in series if needed to. >> >>> Any suggestions appreciated. >>> >>> D_ >>> >>> >> >> > > Chris Muir > cbm@well.com > http://www.xfade.com > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
2009-06-10 by legionhwp
Thanks (as always) Cynthia! Thanks very helpful. Now I'll need to update the picture of my growing system in a few weeks once everything gets assembled :) D_ --- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, Cynthia Webster <cynthia.webster@...> wrote:
> > Howdy! > > If you want to use another brand of power supply that will work as long as > the grounds from the two separate systems are connected. > > This has nothing to do with the third wire on the mains plug, and > nothing to do with > grounding to the physical case of the SixPacs themselves. > Not recommended because you will add noise to your system. > > > Instead, please visit the following link and please see below... > > http://www.cyndustries.com/modules_powerdist-FAQ.cfm > > (This link is available from either of our power supply pages on the > website). > > On the circuit board of each of the power supplies there is a "0 Volts" > center output pin > between the plus and minus 15 volt output pins... This is the Ground > that you do want. > > These center pins from each supply need to be connected. For this > reason we have our > famous green banana jack on the front panel of our power supplies, and > Serge has a black > banana jack on their cases. > > http://www.cyndustries.com/modules_POWSU_medium.cfm > > you can simply plug a banana cable from one power supply to the other. > if your other brand of power supply has no green Grounding jack then you > can simply > add one by drilling a 5/8 inch hole and adding one. > > Black is actually the technically correct color, (as seen on the Motm > jack interface panel) > but I chose green as in "red is Right channel" and "Green is Ground" (a > North American > mains standard color). > > The green stripe at the bottom of the Banana Cable ordering Page offers > a "Grounding kit" > which should provide everything you need. > > http://www.cyndustries.com/pomona.cfm > > Best Wishes and hope this addresses everything! > > Cynthia > > > > > > > > > > > Chris Muir wrote: > > Shouldn't there be something about connecting the grounds on the old > > and the new supply in this list? > > > > > > On Jun 10, 2009, at 7:25 AM, stevemodularland wrote: > > > >> #1 Test it to make sure it makes a clean + and - 15V > >> > >> #2 Make a cable to connect it properly to the distro card > >> > >> #3 Test the distro card to double check that voltages are correct > >> > >> #4 Plug in your modules > >> > >> #5 Make a drink based with clear rum > >> > >> Do NOT "add" power in "parallel" with the other power supply. Power > >> supplies aren't passive lead-acid batteries. > >> > >> --- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, "legionhwp" > >> <legionhwp@> wrote: > >> > >>> I've maxed out my large Cyndustries PS and have a 2nd +/- Motm PS > >>> > >> I've wired into my empty six pak. Whenever I've used any other synth > >> (serge, fenix, etc I always used the green ground out on the Cyn PS. > >> What do I need to do to intergrate the new MOTM ps with my existing > >> Cyn/Modcan system? > >> > >>> I have combo/distro cards in all my Sixpaks so I could wire them > >>> > >> in series if needed to. > >> > >>> Any suggestions appreciated. > >>> > >>> D_ > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > Chris Muir > > cbm@... > > http://www.xfade.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > >
2009-06-10 by legionhwp
Thanks (as always) Cynthia. That's very helpful. I have a MOTM PS so it's rock solid and will work perfectly. Once I get everything assembled and install my other modules I'll have to get a new picture of the system up. It's taking over the basement at this point :) D_ --- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, Cynthia Webster <cynthia.webster@...> wrote:
> > Howdy! > > If you want to use another brand of power supply that will work as long as > the grounds from the two separate systems are connected. > > This has nothing to do with the third wire on the mains plug, and > nothing to do with > grounding to the physical case of the SixPacs themselves. > Not recommended because you will add noise to your system. > > > Instead, please visit the following link and please see below... > > http://www.cyndustries.com/modules_powerdist-FAQ.cfm > > (This link is available from either of our power supply pages on the > website). > > On the circuit board of each of the power supplies there is a "0 Volts" > center output pin > between the plus and minus 15 volt output pins... This is the Ground > that you do want. > > These center pins from each supply need to be connected. For this > reason we have our > famous green banana jack on the front panel of our power supplies, and > Serge has a black > banana jack on their cases. > > http://www.cyndustries.com/modules_POWSU_medium.cfm > > you can simply plug a banana cable from one power supply to the other. > if your other brand of power supply has no green Grounding jack then you > can simply > add one by drilling a 5/8 inch hole and adding one. > > Black is actually the technically correct color, (as seen on the Motm > jack interface panel) > but I chose green as in "red is Right channel" and "Green is Ground" (a > North American > mains standard color). > > The green stripe at the bottom of the Banana Cable ordering Page offers > a "Grounding kit" > which should provide everything you need. > > http://www.cyndustries.com/pomona.cfm > > Best Wishes and hope this addresses everything! > > Cynthia > > > > > > > > > > > Chris Muir wrote: > > Shouldn't there be something about connecting the grounds on the old > > and the new supply in this list? > > > > > > On Jun 10, 2009, at 7:25 AM, stevemodularland wrote: > > > >> #1 Test it to make sure it makes a clean + and - 15V > >> > >> #2 Make a cable to connect it properly to the distro card > >> > >> #3 Test the distro card to double check that voltages are correct > >> > >> #4 Plug in your modules > >> > >> #5 Make a drink based with clear rum > >> > >> Do NOT "add" power in "parallel" with the other power supply. Power > >> supplies aren't passive lead-acid batteries. > >> > >> --- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, "legionhwp" > >> <legionhwp@> wrote: > >> > >>> I've maxed out my large Cyndustries PS and have a 2nd +/- Motm PS > >>> > >> I've wired into my empty six pak. Whenever I've used any other synth > >> (serge, fenix, etc I always used the green ground out on the Cyn PS. > >> What do I need to do to intergrate the new MOTM ps with my existing > >> Cyn/Modcan system? > >> > >>> I have combo/distro cards in all my Sixpaks so I could wire them > >>> > >> in series if needed to. > >> > >>> Any suggestions appreciated. > >>> > >>> D_ > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > Chris Muir > > cbm@... > > http://www.xfade.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > >
2009-06-10 by Cynthia Webster
(Yikes, I meant to say drill a 5/16 inch hole, (not a 5/8 inch one) for banana jacks). It's always fun to see pictures of what everyone is doing with their systems! Cynthia http://www.cyndustries.com/ legionhwp wrote:
> > > Thanks (as always) Cynthia! Thanks very helpful. Now I'll need to > update the picture of my growing system in a few weeks once everything > gets assembled :) > > D_ > > --- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:The_Cyndustries_List%40yahoogroups.com>, Cynthia Webster > <cynthia.webster@...> wrote: > > > > Howdy! > > > > If you want to use another brand of power supply that will work as > long as > > the grounds from the two separate systems are connected. > > > > This has nothing to do with the third wire on the mains plug, and > > nothing to do with > > grounding to the physical case of the SixPacs themselves. > > Not recommended because you will add noise to your system. > > > > > > Instead, please visit the following link and please see below... > > > > http://www.cyndustries.com/modules_powerdist-FAQ.cfm > <http://www.cyndustries.com/modules_powerdist-FAQ.cfm> > > > > (This link is available from either of our power supply pages on the > > website). > > > > On the circuit board of each of the power supplies there is a "0 Volts" > > center output pin > > between the plus and minus 15 volt output pins... This is the Ground > > that you do want. > > > > These center pins from each supply need to be connected. For this > > reason we have our > > famous green banana jack on the front panel of our power supplies, and > > Serge has a black > > banana jack on their cases. > > > > http://www.cyndustries.com/modules_POWSU_medium.cfm > <http://www.cyndustries.com/modules_POWSU_medium.cfm> > > > > you can simply plug a banana cable from one power supply to the other. > > if your other brand of power supply has no green Grounding jack then > you > > can simply > > add one by drilling a 5/8 inch hole and adding one. > > > > Black is actually the technically correct color, (as seen on the Motm > > jack interface panel) > > but I chose green as in "red is Right channel" and "Green is Ground" (a > > North American > > mains standard color). > > > > The green stripe at the bottom of the Banana Cable ordering Page offers > > a "Grounding kit" > > which should provide everything you need. > > > > http://www.cyndustries.com/pomona.cfm > <http://www.cyndustries.com/pomona.cfm> > > > > Best Wishes and hope this addresses everything! > > > > Cynthia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris Muir wrote: > > > Shouldn't there be something about connecting the grounds on the old > > > and the new supply in this list? > > > > > > > > > On Jun 10, 2009, at 7:25 AM, stevemodularland wrote: > > > > > >> #1 Test it to make sure it makes a clean + and - 15V > > >> > > >> #2 Make a cable to connect it properly to the distro card > > >> > > >> #3 Test the distro card to double check that voltages are correct > > >> > > >> #4 Plug in your modules > > >> > > >> #5 Make a drink based with clear rum > > >> > > >> Do NOT "add" power in "parallel" with the other power supply. Power > > >> supplies aren't passive lead-acid batteries. > > >> > > >> --- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:The_Cyndustries_List%40yahoogroups.com>, "legionhwp" > > >> <legionhwp@> wrote: > > >> > > >>> I've maxed out my large Cyndustries PS and have a 2nd +/- Motm PS > > >>> > > >> I've wired into my empty six pak. Whenever I've used any other synth > > >> (serge, fenix, etc I always used the green ground out on the Cyn PS. > > >> What do I need to do to intergrate the new MOTM ps with my existing > > >> Cyn/Modcan system? > > >> > > >>> I have combo/distro cards in all my Sixpaks so I could wire them > > >>> > > >> in series if needed to. > > >> > > >>> Any suggestions appreciated. > > >>> > > >>> D_ > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > Chris Muir > > > cbm@... > > > http://www.xfade.com <http://www.xfade.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >