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wishlist cont'd..

wishlist cont'd..

2004-06-23 by ch.³l

hi Colin, 
i've got something new i'd like to see if possible; in pattern-edit, 
i'd like to be able to shift the aux-tracks independantly from the 
main track, i.e. without shifting the actual notes themselves. and 
continuing from that, AUX-events to shift the aux(d) track 
independantly from the main track.
and of course i've got a question about this; why are the AUX-events 
and accumulator for the AUX-events only focused on D, and not on A, B 
or C as well? i'm guessing it's something practical like there not 
being enough room in the OS... not that i've actually come across a 
need for more accumulators on a track, but having 4 LFO-ish 
accumulators per track would be mad....in a good sense of course. :-) 

grtz Chiel

Re: wishlist cont'd..

2004-06-23 by ch.³l

> whilst we're on the subject of wishes, can we send a MIDI CC 
> without sending a note on yet?
> I really need to put the latest version of the OS in my P3, at some 
> point..

hi  Paul,
in the version i'm running, v3.959, we can. and we like it. :-)

RE: [analogue-sequencer] wishlist cont'd..

2004-06-23 by Colin f

> i've got something new i'd like to see if possible; in pattern-edit, 
> i'd like to be able to shift the aux-tracks independantly from the 
> main track, i.e. without shifting the actual notes themselves. and 
> continuing from that, AUX-events to shift the aux(d) track 
> independantly from the main track.

That's easy to do at a software level, but trickier to find the UI for.
FUNC+rotate already has a purpose, and the last space for a softkey in
pattern edit mode is going to become 'note rng', for setting the base
note and range for pitch entry.
Need to think about it...

> and of course i've got a question about this; why are the AUX-events 
> and accumulator for the AUX-events only focused on D, and not on A, B 
> or C as well? i'm guessing it's something practical like there not 
> being enough room in the OS... not that i've actually come across a 
> need for more accumulators on a track, but having 4 LFO-ish 
> accumulators per track would be mad....in a good sense of course. :-) 

The processing of accumulator functions is quite code and processor
intensive, so I chose to limit the aux accumulator to aux D only to
avoid making the clock pulse handling code too big and sloppy.
An aux accumulator on aux A would be somewhat pointless anyway, as the
auxes are processed in order with A first, so there is no aux in front
of A to do the offsetting before A is processed. That's also the reason
why there is no mask or randomize events that apply to aux A.
If you despearately want more aux accumulation on a single track,
remember you can always use another track's aux D with accumulation, and
grab values from it.
Or wait for P4, which will have much, much greater processing power than
P3. If I ever get time to do P4... I've only got as far as buying the
dev board for the candidate CPU.

Cheers,
Colin f

Re: [analogue-sequencer] wishlist cont'd..

2004-06-23 by Paul Maddox (Mail Lists)

Hi,

whilst we're on the subject of wishes, can we send a MIDI CC without sending
a note on yet?
I really need to put the latest version of the OS in my P3, at some point..

Paul

RE: [analogue-sequencer] wishlist cont'd..

2004-06-23 by Colin f

> whilst we're on the subject of wishes, can we send a MIDI CC 
> without sending
> a note on yet?
> I really need to put the latest version of the OS in my P3, 
> at some point..

Didn't it always do that ? I don't remember it not doing so, but maybe
I'm getting old...

Cheers,
Colin f

Re: [analogue-sequencer] wishlist cont'd..

2004-06-23 by Paul Maddox (Mail Lists)

Colin,

> Didn't it always do that ? I don't remember it not doing so, but maybe
> I'm getting old...

ermm, not in my version, perhaps my version is old Colin, not you.

Can you mail me a copy (off list, please nicely)

Paul

stupid (probably) question

2004-06-24 by Gene Schwartz

I interrupt this wish list for what probably has a very simple answer...

I just got my main and display boards back from Colin, so I've really had
only a few hours on my P3.

What I'm trying to do is set one of the tracks to play 16th notes, but only
11 of them - the last step being 11. Well, it is, kind of. What's happening
is that it is playing steps 1 - 11, then 1-5 again. So it is still playing
only 11 steps, but in a total pattern length of 16. I want it to go to step
11 then back to 1 again. You know what I mean.

I've been searching through the manual to no avail. have mercy on a
beginner. 

Gene

Re: [analogue-sequencer] stupid (probably) question

2004-06-24 by Gene Schwartz

ah - glad to help...looks like you have to set the pattern in a playlist and
set chg to p? I didn't see a way simply within a pattern outside of a
playlist.
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> From: Gene Schwartz <implode7@comcast.net>
> Reply-To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:17:40 -0700
> To: <analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [analogue-sequencer] stupid (probably) question
> 
> I interrupt this wish list for what probably has a very simple answer...
> 
> I just got my main and display boards back from Colin, so I've really had
> only a few hours on my P3.
> 
> What I'm trying to do is set one of the tracks to play 16th notes, but only
> 11 of them - the last step being 11. Well, it is, kind of. What's happening
> is that it is playing steps 1 - 11, then 1-5 again. So it is still playing
> only 11 steps, but in a total pattern length of 16. I want it to go to step
> 11 then back to 1 again. You know what I mean.
> 
> I've been searching through the manual to no avail. have mercy on a
> beginner. 
> 
> Gene
> 
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [analogue-sequencer] stupid (probably) question

2004-06-24 by Paul Nagle

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:21:51 -0700, Gene Schwartz
<implode7@comcast.net> wrote:

>ah - glad to help...looks like you have to set the pattern in a playlist and
>set chg to p? I didn't see a way simply within a pattern outside of a
>playlist.

Bear in mind all patterns are in playlists, even if the playlist is
just one step. If chg is set to B it will synchronise to the global
bar. If set to P it will loop at its own length.

Incidentally, a thing I would like to see would be a + / - way of
setting the global bar rather than using data entry and enter. It is a
rather cool trick to vary the global bar during performance - right
down to 1 step then back again. By mixing patterns that playback at
either P or B, the variations are quite fascinating. But it's hard to
control and time using the current method.

P3 off for another gig this weekend. Wish it luck. Have actually
prepared a few tracks in advance using cool aux events. For example, I
have a bank where the music starts with lots of sustained chords. My
problem is that once I get everything else kicking in, I sometimes
forget this kind of background pad and it runs all the way through,
making the sound mushy. So I programmed an Aux event that will mute
the track when the Aux D accumulator passes a certain value. Then by
increasing this accumulator I can automatically stop my slushy chords
without thinking. Now if only the track could unmute itself in the
same way <g>. Yeah, I know, it can. I use another Part. Assuming I
remember.... hey, I could program that too <VBG>.

Paul

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Paul Nagle - SoftRoom Music - www.softroom.co.uk
          Bogus Focus Records - www.BogusFocus.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] stupid (probably) question

2004-06-24 by Gene Schwartz

> From: Paul Nagle <softroom@btinternet.com>
> Organization: The Soft Room
> Reply-To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:16:03 +0100
> To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] stupid (probably) question
> 
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:21:51 -0700, Gene Schwartz
> <implode7@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> ah - glad to help...looks like you have to set the pattern in a playlist and
>> set chg to p? I didn't see a way simply within a pattern outside of a
>> playlist.
> 
> Bear in mind all patterns are in playlists, even if the playlist is
> just one step. If chg is set to B it will synchronise to the global
> bar. If set to P it will loop at its own length.
> 

yeah - I was thinking about it last night in bed, and that makes perfect
sense. I had been thinking of playlists as an entirely separate mode of
operation.

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