Analogue-sequencer

> ...why would you need two of these interfaces to control
> 16 tracks. Why not a much smaller little box to link to the p3, and
> could be stuffed anywhere, even a small body cavity, and then a menu
> option on the p3 where you would, say, choose p3 # 2...and then the all
> of the knobs and buttons would control the other p3...

Ouch. I don't think I'd want a P3 mainboard in a body cavity... even with a
buttload of Vaseline (how about that - a literal use of 'buttload' ;-)

It'd be very unlikely there's enough space left in the P3 ROM to add support
for full remote control from another P3.
But size-wise, the planned 'proper case' for P3 will be a fair bit smaller
than your current case Gene. I also have a notion that I might do a single
board with vertical mounting pots to replace all the front panel boards
except the display module. This would have the mainboard attached directly
behind it using headers rather than ribbon cables, so it would need less
depth too.

Cheers,
Colin f



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forgive me if I've got this totally wrong, but I still feel like I'm a
beginner here on the P3 (as well as the Polymorph)..they're both kind of
new.

It seems like on the P3, if wanted to send out 4 different controllers to
one MIDI channel on a synth, and I wanted each of these rows to be a
different length and/or time division, I'd have to set up 4 (or 5, if I
wanted them to all be different from the basic pattern length and time
division) tracks to do this. The Polymorph is limited to 3 rows of
controllers per track, but I can set each to a different time division and
length.

Is this correct?

(This is by no means an implication that if true that the Polymorph comes
close to the capabilities of the P3, but I'm trying to get a clear sense of
the capabilities/limitations of each).

Thanks,
Gene

> It seems like on the P3, if wanted to send out 4 different 
> controllers to
> one MIDI channel on a synth, and I wanted each of these rows to be a
> different length and/or time division, I'd have to set up 4 
> (or 5, if I
> wanted them to all be different from the basic pattern length and time
> division) tracks to do this. The Polymorph is limited to 3 rows of
> controllers per track, but I can set each to a different time 
> division and
> length.
> 
> Is this correct?

That's correct. I think someone (probably Paul N) mentioned the separate
lengths for controllers on Polymorph patterns as a desirable feature
many moons ago, but decided using a couple of extra tracks was a
reasonable work-around.
It's something I could implement, but it would need extra storage to
hold the last steps for the auxes, which could mean fewer patterns.
I get the feeling it would probably go unused by most people, and would
no doubt deeply confuse some...
Another feature for P4 ;-)

Cheers,
Colin f

> From: "Colin f" <colin@colinfraser.com>
> Reply-To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 00:51:14 +0100
> To: <analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer] pattern length
> 
>> It seems like on the P3, if wanted to send out 4 different
>> controllers to
>> one MIDI channel on a synth, and I wanted each of these rows to be a
>> different length and/or time division, I'd have to set up 4
>> (or 5, if I
>> wanted them to all be different from the basic pattern length and time
>> division) tracks to do this. The Polymorph is limited to 3 rows of
>> controllers per track, but I can set each to a different time
>> division and
>> length.
>> 
>> Is this correct?
> 
> That's correct. I think someone (probably Paul N) mentioned the separate
> lengths for controllers on Polymorph patterns as a desirable feature
> many moons ago, but decided using a couple of extra tracks was a
> reasonable work-around.
> It's something I could implement, but it would need extra storage to
> hold the last steps for the auxes, which could mean fewer patterns.
> I get the feeling it would probably go unused by most people, and would
> no doubt deeply confuse some...
> Another feature for P4 ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Colin f


Understood. It's challenging, but also great fun to learn both the Polymorph
and P3 simultaneously. The polymorph is really a great little synth (in my
opinion), greatly because of its sequencer. It doesn't do nearly as much as
the P3, but it really does some of the RIGHT things, and it is easy to use.
I will probably use it as a self-contained synth, and not use its sequencer
to control other synths, unless, of course, I get sick of its sound. Right
now, I rather like it.

Personally, I would go for this added capability in the P3 even if it meant
fewer patterns (of course, how many fewer would be the crucial issue). If
you wanted to set up 4 different time divisions or line lengths for one
sound on the synth, it would take up half of your available tracks on the
P3, whereas it can be done on one track of the Polymorph.

But, I personally really like this feature, and others may not want to
sacrifice for it. But as far as getting confused? nah....it would be far
less confusing than remembering the proper key strokes in playlist edit
mode, which is driving me crazy right now. I just can't seem to remember
them correctly...

> From: "Colin f" <colin@colinfraser.com>
> Reply-To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 00:51:14 +0100
> To: <analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer] pattern length
> 
>> It seems like on the P3, if wanted to send out 4 different
>> controllers to
>> one MIDI channel on a synth, and I wanted each of these rows to be a
>> different length and/or time division, I'd have to set up 4
>> (or 5, if I
>> wanted them to all be different from the basic pattern length and time
>> division) tracks to do this. The Polymorph is limited to 3 rows of
>> controllers per track, but I can set each to a different time
>> division and
>> length.
>> 
>> Is this correct?
> 
> That's correct. I think someone (probably Paul N) mentioned the separate
> lengths for controllers on Polymorph patterns as a desirable feature
> many moons ago, but decided using a couple of extra tracks was a
> reasonable work-around.
> It's something I could implement, but it would need extra storage to
> hold the last steps for the auxes, which could mean fewer patterns.
> I get the feeling it would probably go unused by most people, and would
> no doubt deeply confuse some...
> Another feature for P4 ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Colin f
> 

and while you're adding this capability :) you might as well throw in the
ability to have the velocity row be of a different length also...

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:39:16 -0700, Gene Schwartz
<implode7@comcast.net> wrote:

>and while you're adding this capability :) you might as well throw in the
>ability to have the velocity row be of a different length also...

One workaround for this is to get the values (CC, Vel etc.) from
another track and that track may have patterns of differing lengths. 

Paul
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