Analogue-sequencer

hi all...

after a time of quiet, the ideas have started flooding out again, i see...
well, i might as well put my rapidly de-valuing US$ .02 in...

something that would really smooth things out for me would be to be able
to switch between tracks while in pattern edit mode. for example, i could
be messing with auxes on track 1, then i could hit a key combination, and
be *at the same screen* in pattern edit for track 8.

i'm thinking func+step 9-16 could be used for this... that is unless that
key combination already switches parts.

thoughts?

f.

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ooo, i thought of another one...

maybe this is just in my peculiar case due to the complexity of my midi
setup, but i would *love* to have the option to prevent the P3 from
sending sync when it detects sync...

hmmm... also the option to filter out any sync it does receive, so it
doesn't get passed to the out/thru...

midi loops hurt. ouch.

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Fred, 

> maybe this is just in my peculiar case due to the complexity 
> of my midi
> setup, but i would *love* to have the option to prevent the P3 from
> sending sync when it detects sync...

Unless I misunderstand what you mean, you just need to set mclk to 'off'.

Cheers,
Colin f

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005, Colin f wrote:

> Unless I misunderstand what you mean, you just need to set mclk to 'off'.

hah hah... oh yeah... i think i've tried that and still gotten the loop...
so what i really need is the second part of that message, the clock
filter... although i understand that this is *my* particular issue and
others may not find it useful...

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> > Unless I misunderstand what you mean, you just need to set 
> mclk to 'off'.
> 
> hah hah... oh yeah... i think i've tried that and still 
> gotten the loop...
> so what i really need is the second part of that message, the clock
> filter... although i understand that this is *my* particular issue and
> others may not find it useful...

Sync shouldn't pass thru with mclk off.
Are you using a DIN sync to midi clock output ?
DIN sync is always on, but there is a config bit for it, I just didn't add a
UI option to turn it off.

Cheers,
Colin f

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005, Colin f wrote:

> Sync shouldn't pass thru with mclk off.
> Are you using a DIN sync to midi clock output ?
> DIN sync is always on, but there is a config bit for it, I just didn't add a
> UI option to turn it off.

hmmm... maybe it's something else then... i'm trying to get my mc-909 to
be the master clock (because i like its timing) but still have the P3 send
notes to it... this inevitably ends up in an orgy of midi vomiting...
maybe its transmitting active sensing or something...

i'll play around with it this weekend...

thanks for the help colin...

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> hmmm... maybe it's something else then... i'm trying to get 
> my mc-909 to
> be the master clock (because i like its timing) but still 
> have the P3 send
> notes to it... this inevitably ends up in an orgy of midi vomiting...
> maybe its transmitting active sensing or something...

Could be that you have midi pass-thru turned on.
If the MC909 echoes notes to the P3, and the P3 echoes them back to the MC,
you'll have fun and games.
Inevitably with a loop of this kind, the P3 output buffer will start to
overflow, so I might add code to disable midi pass-thru automatically when
this happens, and warn the operator they may have a loop.

Cheers,
Colin f

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005, Colin f wrote:

> Could be that you have midi pass-thru turned on.
> If the MC909 echoes notes to the P3, and the P3 echoes them back to the MC,
> you'll have fun and games.
> Inevitably with a loop of this kind, the P3 output buffer will start to
> overflow, so I might add code to disable midi pass-thru automatically when
> this happens, and warn the operator they may have a loop.

now that i think about it for a second, i realize that i forgot about the
virus in there... between the 909 and the P3. when soft thru is on, which
it needs to be in order to record in the 909 and P3, then we get grunge.
if it's not and the 909 gets P3 data via the virus thru, things are fine,
only i can't record live playing...

so basically what i need to do is to get a motu midi express xt and a mac
to make it go... :) (tried using one on my PC once... wow was *that* a
mistake)

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Yep, I like it.
Tom

>
> something that would really smooth things out for me would be to be able
> to switch between tracks while in pattern edit mode. for example, i could
> be messing with auxes on track 1, then i could hit a key combination, and
> be *at the same screen* in pattern edit for track 8.
>
> i'm thinking func+step 9-16 could be used for this... that is unless that
> key combination already switches parts.
>
> thoughts?
>
> f.
>
> bleep.
> out.
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> something that would really smooth things out for me would be 
> to be able
> to switch between tracks while in pattern edit mode. for 
> example, i could
> be messing with auxes on track 1, then i could hit a key 
> combination, and
> be *at the same screen* in pattern edit for track 8.

Something faster than play/edit, F1, play/edit + track 8 ? ;-)
That doesn't take you to the same place in edit mode on the new track, but
it wouldn't be too much work not to reset the edit mode state.

A user config option that defeats the save/lose/back option and just takes
you straight back to play mode could make this quicker.
But would you always be sure you wanted to save the changes you had made ?
 
> i'm thinking func+step 9-16 could be used for this... that is 
> unless that
> key combination already switches parts.

FUNC+step keys shows you the current data on the steps in edit mode.

Cheers,
Colin f

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005, Colin f wrote:

> FUNC+step keys shows you the current data on the steps in edit mode.

erm... whatever the one is where you can get quick access to muting the
tracks...

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YES!!!

> A user config option that defeats the save/lose/back option and just takes
> you straight back to play mode could make this quicker.

PS  made a new box for my P3....Added some modular stuff too.
 http://users.pandora.be/the-big-ear/TBE-pic/Modular+P3.jpg

Cheers,
Tom

Tom Adam wrote:
> YES!!!
> 
>> A user config option that defeats the save/lose/back option and just
>> takes you straight back to play mode could make this quicker.
> 
> PS  made a new box for my P3....Added some modular stuff too.
>  http://users.pandora.be/the-big-ear/TBE-pic/Modular+P3.jpg
> 
> Cheers,
> Tom

Very nice!

Gert
www.waveworld.tv

Colin,
At the moment the P3 only has an edit buffer for the pattern currently being
edited, whereas it would seem to me that it would be much more useful if it
had a buffer for the whole bank. I'm not sure if such a thing could be
implemented, but I'd be happy to give up a bank to act as a buffer.
Cheers
Jez
http://www.modulator-esp.co.uk/

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> At the moment the P3 only has an edit buffer for the pattern 
> currently being
> edited, whereas it would seem to me that it would be much 
> more useful if it
> had a buffer for the whole bank. I'm not sure if such a thing could be
> implemented, but I'd be happy to give up a bank to act as a buffer.

The problem with that is the flexible nature of a bank, since P3 can either
have 3 banks of 16 patterns per track, 6 banks of 8 or 12 banks of 4. You
wouldn't want to lose a third of your pattern space to an edit buffer if you
were using 3 bank mode.

Cheers,
Colin f