Analogue-sequencer

I was playing around this morning with an idea and I wanted to use
the cascading auxes feature to implement it.

I started with a simple example:

Track 1: poke in some notes
Track 2: 2 steps long
-- step 1: Aux A: auxes to track 1
-- step 2: Aux B: offset note rel +6

I started the P3 with tracks 1 and 2 enabled.  What I wanted to hear 
was the notes on track 1 transposing up by +6 every time step 2 of 
track 2 was hit.  (I chose this event just to see if I could hear
what was happening before I used other events).

Empirical evidence says this is the wrong way to do it since I didn't 
hear any transposition take place.

Is there a working example of cascading auxes around?

thanks

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, Paul Nagle <softroom@b...>
wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:46:16 -0000, "tmoravan" <tom@s...>
> wrote:
> 
> >Empirical evidence says this is the wrong way to do it since I didn't 
> >hear any transposition take place.
> 
> I think this is because auxes are processed in numerical track order
> (Colin will correct me if I'm wrong, I'm sure). Try having the tracks
> the other way round (and making appropriate adjustments). Will check
> it out this evening if this doesn't do it; it's been a while since I
> played with re-routing auxes.

I can confirm that you're correct. I've been playing about with this
recently and it had me confused at first too. once you get the
numerical order-thing in your head it's easy as.. well, easy stuff.

grtz Chiel

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:46:16 -0000, "tmoravan" <tom@synthservices.com>
wrote:

>Empirical evidence says this is the wrong way to do it since I didn't 
>hear any transposition take place.

I think this is because auxes are processed in numerical track order
(Colin will correct me if I'm wrong, I'm sure). Try having the tracks
the other way round (and making appropriate adjustments). Will check
it out this evening if this doesn't do it; it's been a while since I
played with re-routing auxes.

Paul
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Paul Nagle - SoftRoom Music - www.softroom.co.uk
          Bogus Focus Records - www.BogusFocus.com

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "Colin f" <colin@c...> 
wrote:
>  
> > I was playing around this morning with an idea and I wanted to use
> > the cascading auxes feature to implement it.
> > 
> > I started with a simple example:
> > 
> > Track 1: poke in some notes
> > Track 2: 2 steps long
> > -- step 1: Aux A: auxes to track 1
> > -- step 2: Aux B: offset note rel +6
> > 
> > I started the P3 with tracks 1 and 2 enabled.  What I wanted to 
hear 
> > was the notes on track 1 transposing up by +6 every time step 2 
of 
> > track 2 was hit.  (I chose this event just to see if I could hear
> > what was happening before I used other events).
> 
> Events are per step - they take effect only on the step they are 
programmed
> on.
> So 'auxes to track 1' only applies on steps which it is active on - 
step 1.
> Set step 2 aux A active to redirect auxes to track 1, and the 
offset note
> event on that step will be redirected.
> 
> Best regards,
> Colin Fraser
> Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
> http://www.sequentix.com

Thanks Colin.  I was re-reading what I did and I see where I went 
wrong.  Like most things P3, your explanation will make more sense 
when I'm actually keying it in and watching/listening what's 
happening.

> I was playing around this morning with an idea and I wanted to use
> the cascading auxes feature to implement it.
> 
> I started with a simple example:
> 
> Track 1: poke in some notes
> Track 2: 2 steps long
> -- step 1: Aux A: auxes to track 1
> -- step 2: Aux B: offset note rel +6
> 
> I started the P3 with tracks 1 and 2 enabled.  What I wanted to hear 
> was the notes on track 1 transposing up by +6 every time step 2 of 
> track 2 was hit.  (I chose this event just to see if I could hear
> what was happening before I used other events).

Events are per step - they take effect only on the step they are programmed
on.
So 'auxes to track 1' only applies on steps which it is active on - step 1.
Set step 2 aux A active to redirect auxes to track 1, and the offset note
event on that step will be redirected.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "Colin f" <colin@c...>
wrote:
>  
> > I was playing around this morning with an idea and I wanted to use
> > the cascading auxes feature to implement it.
> > 
> 
> Events are per step - they take effect only on the step they are 
programmed
> on.
> So 'auxes to track 1' only applies on steps which it is active on - 
step 1.
> Set step 2 aux A active to redirect auxes to track 1, and the
offset note
> event on that step will be redirected.
> 
> Best regards,
> Colin Fraser
> Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
> http://www.sequentix.com


Added a redirect on step 2 as suggested and it started immediately 
doing what I originally wanted it to do.

Thanks. 

Just to confirm something else I was testing - when a step is active 
and playing, the data (and knobs) associated with that step is not 
being continually scanned and refreshed, right?

IOW - if a step is active on a sequence set to tbase 1 and I twist
the note knob while it's playing, I don't hear a pitch change until 
the next time the note is triggered.

> Just to confirm something else I was testing - when a step is active 
> and playing, the data (and knobs) associated with that step is not 
> being continually scanned and refreshed, right?

The knobs are continually scanned, but changing the note doesn't cause it to
be played until next time round.
That would be a real pain for live use, so I went for visual confirmation
instead.
Plus you can use FTS and not worry about bum notes.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com