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sync'n two P3's together?

sync'n two P3's together?

2006-02-28 by analog1k

I can't seem to get my two P3's to stay-in-sync, my second one
(slave P3) always seems to be 1 or 2 steps in front of the master 
P3 sequencer.

I have midi-clock set to 'on' on the master-P3 and midi-clock off
on the slave P3 unit.

How do i keep them both sync'd either during a start/stop operation.


Best,
A1k

Re: sync'n two P3's together?

2006-02-28 by ch.³l

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "analog1k" <analog1k@...>
wrote:
>
> I can't seem to get my two P3's to stay-in-sync, my second one
> (slave P3) always seems to be 1 or 2 steps in front of the master 
> P3 sequencer.
> 
> I have midi-clock set to 'on' on the master-P3 and midi-clock off
> on the slave P3 unit.
> 
> How do i keep them both sync'd either during a start/stop operation.
> 
> 
> Best,
> A1k
>

Hi there,

I have both of mine synced permanently as Paul has, and no trouble
whatsoever. What firmware build are you running? I don't know if this
has anything to do with your problem, but since updating to the latest
firmware-beta, v41, mine doesn't react to the BTempo-setting. It'll
show the set tempo on the display, but it plays at a different speed
alltogether...

grtz ,Chiel

Re: [analogue-sequencer] sync'n two P3's together?

2006-02-28 by Paul Nagle

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:05:28 -0000, "analog1k" <analog1k@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>How do i keep them both sync'd either during a start/stop operation.

My two are synced permanently; I also use remote control so when I
switch banks on the master, the slave switches too. Otherwise, as long
as the master has Clock set to On the slave should start whenever you
hit run. Not much else involved.
At least mine always sync fine - and I've had four P3s synced the same
way. 
You don't have one of the user config options set to maybe 'continue'
by any chance? Sorry, can't remember the setting specifically... but I
expect Colin will be along with a grown-up suggestion soon anyway.

When you hit Func+Run, does the slave not recover then? This works
great for me with my drum machines and slave P3 meaning I can stop
them independently at any time but always start again in perfect sync.

Paul
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                           SoftRoom Music - www.softroom.co.uk

RE: [analogue-sequencer] sync'n two P3's together?

2006-02-28 by Colin f

> I can't seem to get my two P3's to stay-in-sync, my second one
> (slave P3) always seems to be 1 or 2 steps in front of the master 
> P3 sequencer.
> 
> I have midi-clock set to 'on' on the master-P3 and midi-clock off
> on the slave P3 unit.

I think this may be being caused by a false triggering problem with the
inputs on the PIC chip that converts the P3 DIN sync output to MIDI clock.
Early production P3s used capacitors across the DIN sync lines to remove the
noise I thought was causing mis-triggering, but it seems not to have been a
total fix.
It could be an internal problem with the PICs, since I've never been able to
see any spurious pulses on a scope, and in some cases I was seeing more than
one START or STOP message in a row, which it just isn't possible for the
code to send...
Anyway, I updated the PIC sync code to fix mis-triggering by double sampling
the input pins.
If you find the MIDI clock output on your sync jack is not reliable you can
either get a replacement PIC from me, or just use MIDI clock on one of the
main MIDI outputs.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: sync'n two P3's together?

2006-02-28 by Colin f

> I don't know if this
> has anything to do with your problem, but since updating to the latest
> firmware-beta, v41, mine doesn't react to the BTempo-setting. It'll
> show the set tempo on the display, but it plays at a different speed
> alltogether...

BTempo seems to be fine in the current build. I haven't got a copy of 41 to
test, but nothing related to that code was changed.
Could it be you have a dirty tempo knob ?
Try setting the 'lock BTempo' user conf option on.

The 3.1.006 release build is imminent.
I guess I should put up a release test. I'm testing it myself, but many
hands, etc.
I've got a strict deadline to get the release build out and manuals printed
before P3 hits the superbooth at the Musik Messe...
http://www.superbooth.com

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

RE: [analogue-sequencer] sync'n two P3's together?

2006-02-28 by Colin f

>. but I
> expect Colin will be along with a grown-up suggestion soon anyway.

Erm, OK...
Eat your greens.
And don't run with scissors.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

v3.1.006 release test

2006-02-28 by Colin f

OK,

Nearly ready to go. I've got a manual to get on with.
v3.1.006 rc 1 is in Yahoo files now.
This build has all the functionality I'm going to add for the 3.1.006
release.
It just wants a bit of testing to make sure no bugs have crept in.
The usual adventurous types can feel free to join in.

To tempt you, I've added a new Sculpt option to track record, so you can
tweak values freely over long chains of patterns.
And a tbase value of 64.
Sculpt also now previews the values that will be written if you move the
DATA knob.
And there is an extra mode for the VU LEDs in play mode, where each of the 8
LEDs will show the gate status for each track.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

RE: [analogue-sequencer] v3.1.006 release test

2006-03-01 by Colin f

> > To tempt you, I've added a new Sculpt option to track record, so  
> > you can
> > tweak values freely over long chains of patterns.
> 
> collin,
> just installed Rc1 here but wonder how does that work exactly

If you set up a playlist with a number of patterns chained together, play
mode record will record notes into each pattern as they cycle through.
The new sculpt option also works like this - as you hold the sculpt
softkeys, and move the DATA knob, values will be written into whichever is
the current pattern as the playlist runs through them.
You need to put record into 'live' for sculpting to work.
You can select what the 'upper' function will be using the UPPER MODE key.
The options are the usual, velocity, length, delay, aux A - D.

The quickest way to set up a playlist with a chain of patterns is with this
shortcut...
- Hold FUNC+<track> to enter playlist edit
- Hold the step key for the first pattern, e.g. 1
- Press and release the step key for the last pattern, e.g. 4

This example will set up a playlist with a length of 4 steps. Step 1 will
play pattern 1, step 2 pattern 2 and so on.
If you press FUNC again, then F1 to save, you'll now find your edited track
cycles through the 4 patterns in turn.
You can record a 4 bar pattern straight in there using REC+<track>, and once
you have notes in, you can sculpt any values you might want to change.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] v3.1.006 release test

2006-03-01 by henry

Am 28.02.2006 um 21:55 schrieb Colin f:

>
> To tempt you, I've added a new Sculpt option to track record, so  
> you can
> tweak values freely over long chains of patterns.

collin,
just installed Rc1 here but wonder how does that work exactly
cheers,
henry

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