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Controlling a step sequencer with BCR 2000 & transposing

Controlling a step sequencer with BCR 2000 & transposing

2013-08-09 by karud99

Hi!
I'm totally new to sysex programming, so bare with me.
I purchased a bcr 2000 to control various settings on my Yamaha An1x, and I'm seeing huge potential right away.

The step sequencer control with BCR is a dream come true, and I'm really near to turning this previously tedious feature into a fully working analogue style hands on sequencer!

I'm considering different approaches on how to setup this, and an idea came to me that it would be nice to be able to
a) transpose the whole sequence
b) transpose step at a time

I have the top row encoders programmed to control step sequencers note values. If I set a button to increment the note values of the sequencer, it will do it, but within its own range, that is it doesn't naturally care what value the encoder controlling that step has.

A workaround I came up with, would be that the button sends the message not to the synthesizer, but within BCR 2000 sends a message to increment the value of the encoder, and thus the encoder value change sends the programmed sysex to An1x.

Is this a pipe dream, or would you come up with a better/working solution?

Thank!
-htk

Re: Controlling a step sequencer with BCR 2000 & transposing

2013-08-19 by twobeelandscape

Hi htk

I'm interested in what you are trying to do because I was trying to set up a voice editor on the BCR2000 for the AN1x.  Got overtaken by work, but it's there in the back of my mind as a project.  If you make some progress with the step sequencer control, I might be inspired to push on with the voice editor and maybe they could be get together and make sweet music...

I'm really not much of an expert on what is possible with the BCR, neither am I clear what you are trying to achieve as regards transposition, but I just thought I would check the following: are you aware hat you can transpose any sequence on the AN1x from its keyboard?  Pages 41 and 86 of the AN1x manual explain how to use keyboard modes (eg Select & Shift) to transpose running sequences by pressing keys above a designated split point.  As the AN1x will presumably be pretty close to the BCR, isn't that a better (more musical) way to transpose sequences than trying to assign buttons on the BCR?

Sorry if I have misunderstood your aims, but I'm very interested to see how you get on.

Regards

Bill

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "karud99" <karud99@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi!
> I'm totally new to sysex programming, so bare with me.
> I purchased a bcr 2000 to control various settings on my Yamaha An1x, and I'm seeing huge potential right away.
> 
> The step sequencer control with BCR is a dream come true, and I'm really near to turning this previously tedious feature into a fully working analogue style hands on sequencer!
> 
> I'm considering different approaches on how to setup this, and an idea came to me that it would be nice to be able to
> a) transpose the whole sequence
> b) transpose step at a time
> 
> I have the top row encoders programmed to control step sequencers note values. If I set a button to increment the note values of the sequencer, it will do it, but within its own range, that is it doesn't naturally care what value the encoder controlling that step has.
> 
> A workaround I came up with, would be that the button sends the message not to the synthesizer, but within BCR 2000 sends a message to increment the value of the encoder, and thus the encoder value change sends the programmed sysex to An1x.
> 
> Is this a pipe dream, or would you come up with a better/working solution?
> 
> Thank!
> -htk
>

Re: Controlling a step sequencer with BCR 2000 & transposing

2013-08-20 by alex

Sadly, this is not possible within the BCR2000 at present. Knobs can only control their own values. 

I saw a video in which someone had actually written custom firmware for the BCR2000 and had it running as a standalone step sequencer. I just did a cursory Google search for it and it appears to have disappeared.

I also have to mention that I've made and sell a very deep step sequencer for Macintosh which was created from the start to work with the BCR2000. It features extensive transposition, randomization and output modulation. You can find more info and a demo version here-

http://www.orwelldigital.com/ProductFiles/OR1m/or1m.html

Cheers,
Alex Aliferis
www.orwelldigital.com

 

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "karud99" <karud99@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi!
> I'm totally new to sysex programming, so bare with me.
> I purchased a bcr 2000 to control various settings on my Yamaha An1x, and I'm seeing huge potential right away.
> 
> The step sequencer control with BCR is a dream come true, and I'm really near to turning this previously tedious feature into a fully working analogue style hands on sequencer!
> 
> I'm considering different approaches on how to setup this, and an idea came to me that it would be nice to be able to
> a) transpose the whole sequence
> b) transpose step at a time
> 
> I have the top row encoders programmed to control step sequencers note values. If I set a button to increment the note values of the sequencer, it will do it, but within its own range, that is it doesn't naturally care what value the encoder controlling that step has.
> 
> A workaround I came up with, would be that the button sends the message not to the synthesizer, but within BCR 2000 sends a message to increment the value of the encoder, and thus the encoder value change sends the programmed sysex to An1x.
> 
> Is this a pipe dream, or would you come up with a better/working solution?
> 
> Thank!
> -htk
>

Re: Controlling a step sequencer with BCR 2000 & transposing

2013-08-21 by twobeelandscape

Hi Alex

Saw that previously and it looks great, but sadly of no use to non-Mac owners :/  If you could make it into a VST, you might shift quite a few!  Also htk is trying to control the in-built sequencer of the AN1x.  Anyway, always good to be aware of alternatives.

thanks

Bill

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alexaliferis@...> wrote:
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>
> Sadly, this is not possible within the BCR2000 at present. Knobs can only control their own values. 
> 
> I saw a video in which someone had actually written custom firmware for the BCR2000 and had it running as a standalone step sequencer. I just did a cursory Google search for it and it appears to have disappeared.
> 
> I also have to mention that I've made and sell a very deep step sequencer for Macintosh which was created from the start to work with the BCR2000. It features extensive transposition, randomization and output modulation. You can find more info and a demo version here-

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