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Spyder2express - Version 2.3.5 should fail on 32-bit system

Spyder2express - Version 2.3.5 should fail on 32-bit system

2007-02-22 by Patrick Philippot

Hi,

If by chance you install version 2.3.5 on a 32-bit system, the 
installation will succeed, the software will work without any error 
message but the result of the calibration process will be wrong 
(strong red dominance).

This version is for 64-bit systems only.

The big issue with this is that uninstalling the software (and the 
drivers through the Device Manager) will not be enough. Version 2.2 
and 2.3 will no longer work because they'll still try to work with 
the new driver (spyder2.sys) instead of the old one (cvspydr2.sys).

If you are familiar with the registry information that is related to 
drivers in the registry and with the management of INF files, you can 
try to manually fix the problem (this is what I did). Otherwise, 
you'll never run version 2.3 or 2.2 again.

So the installer should check whether it is run on a 64-bit system 
and abort otherwise. Given the consequences of such an installation, 
the developer of the installation package should have added this test 
to his code. Again, a big mistake.

-- 
Patrick Philippot - Microsoft MVP
MainSoft Consulting Services
www.mainsoft.fr

Re: Spyder2express - Version 2.3.5 should fail on 32-bit systems

2007-02-22 by Patrick Philippot

<mainsoft@...> wrote:
> If by chance you install version 2.3.5 on a 32-bit system, the 
> installation will succeed, the software will work without any error 
> message but the result of the calibration process will be wrong 
> (strong red dominance).

Well, it seems that the red dominance problem is also present in 
version 2.3. Actually, the change with target color temperature 
appeared in this version: "Target White Point for LCD is now 6500K 
instead of Native.". This can of course explain why the red dominance 
appeared. If the target white point is set at a higher temperature, 
there's a shift toward low temperatures. So I ask: why this change? 
To encourage us to purchase the pro version?

As a matter of fact, I currently can obtain a correct calibration 
only with version 2.2.

Also, this is in contradiction with what the support said about 
version 2.3.5. I obtained the very same result (red dominance) with 
the new version and the new device driver as with version 2.3. So 
this version "works" on a 32-bit system.

I can only repeat this again and again: what a mess! What a loss of 
time!

-- 
Patrick Philippot - Microsoft MVP
MainSoft Consulting Services
www.mainsoft.fr

Re: [colorvision_group] Spyder2express - Version 2.3.5 should fail on 32-bit system

2007-02-22 by CDTobie@aol.com


In a message dated 2/22/07 7:14:12 AM, mainsoft@... writes:


If by chance you install version 2.3.5 on a 32-bit system, the
installation will succeed, the software will work without any error
message but the result of the calibration process will be wrong
(strong red dominance).

This version is for 64-bit systems only.


2.3.5 has both 32 and 64 bit drivers included. It installs based on what OS version you are using. Clearly you have experimented further already, and as predicted had further problems. Have you yet started a support ticket at colorvision.com?

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com



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Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Spyder2express - Version 2.3.5 should fail on 32-bit systems

2007-02-22 by CDTobie@aol.com


In a message dated 2/22/07 8:41:01 AM, mainsoft@... writes:


wrote:
> If by chance you install version 2.3.5 on a 32-bit system, the
> installation will succeed, the software will work without any error
> message but the result of the calibration process will be wrong
> (strong red dominance).

Well, it seems that the red dominance problem is also present in
version 2.3.


This would indicate that you have figured out that your accusation of incorrect driver bit depth installation is incorrect. Actually, its only one of several incorrect accusations you have published here in the last day or so. Do you really find this to be an appropriate way to do business? You talk about messes and unprofessionalism, but much of that appears to be on your side, not ColorVision's side.


Actually, the change with target color temperature
appeared in this version: "Target White Point for LCD is now 6500K
instead of Native."


Correct...

. This can of course explain why the red dominance
appeared.


If your monitor had a very cool (high Kelvin) native white balance, and you moved to a newer version of Spyder2express, this would now be calibrated to 6500k (like the vast majority of other calibrated monitors). That would look "reddish" compared to your previously blue screen. But it would also be more appropriate, by most any standard.

If the target white point is set at a higher temperature,
there's a shift toward low temperatures.


No, if the screen's native, or preset color temp is high, then this will calibrate it to an appropriate setting, thats one of the reasons one calibrates a monitor...

So I ask: why this change?
To encourage us to purchase the pro version?


Quite the opposite, it was changed by popular demand that we use the same K value in Express as in the more advanced versions. We listen to our customers, and this was what they wanted.

As a matter of fact, I currently can obtain a correct calibration
only with version 2.2.


Correct meaning with an uncalibrated whitepoint. If thats what you want, use an older version, or don't calibrate your monitor, or use a more advanced product that allows you to choose a range of target gammas and whitepoints.

Also, this is in contradiction with what the support said about
version 2.3.5. I obtained the very same result (red dominance) with
the new version and the new device driver as with version 2.3. So
this version "works" on a 32-bit system.


Yes, it does, as I stated previously. It works on BOTH 32 and 64 bit systems.

I can only repeat this again and again: what a mess! What a loss of
time!

You do seem to have suffered considerably more over this than other users, thats a shame. But you now have a version that works as intended, no bugs, no errors, calibration to an appropriate white balance, and you are still not happy. Consider returning the product if it does not meet your expectations.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com




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Re: Spyder2express - Version 2.3.5 should fail on 32-bit system

2007-02-22 by Patrick Philippot

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote:
> 2.3.5 has both 32 and 64 bit drivers included. It 
> installs based on what OS version you are using. 
> Clearly you have experimented further already, and as 
> predicted had further problems. Have you yet started a 
> support ticket at colorvision.com?

Yes. Excerpt from their answer:

"
Hi Patrick,
As mentioned on the site this version is only for 64bit systems and you 
should not install it on a 32bit system.

So now you have to deinstall again the complete installation and 
install the version 2.2.
"

So please, get things in sync and consistent. The information on your 
web site actually states that version 2.3.5 is 64-bit only. I could 
finally make clear that it is not the case.

-- 
Patrick

Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Spyder2express - Version 2.3.5 should fail on 32-bit system

2007-02-22 by CDTobie@aol.com


In a message dated 2/22/07 11:01:51 AM, mainsoft@... writes:


So please, get things in sync and consistent.


We're working on it. Vista is making all developer's lives crazy at the moment, as you may have experienced yourself...

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com



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