On Jul 26, 2005, at 9:12 AM, Ronnie Wright wrote:
> Great info, thanks again, that clears it up. Is there a good
> information source on the net that you know of which covers in
> detail the various models of disklavier's and their options. I
> didn't realize there we're so many different versions.
>
> rw
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com on behalf of George F. Litterst
> Sent: Mon 7/25/2005 2:03 PM
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Recording piano playing w/DC1A...
>
>
> Hi again.
>
> The record (i.e. sensing) system is distinct from the playback
> system. The record system on smaller grands involves sensors under
> the keys. The more sophisticated system on larger grands involves
> sensors under the keys as well as sensors on the hammer shank that
> interact with a sensing rail that is installed above the hammer
> action and below the strings. These components are not present in the
> playback-only models nor can they be added.
>
> The playback system in all models consists of solenoids under the
> backs of the piano keys.
>
> Your situation is not a case of having bought an early model. It is a
> case of Yamaha making lower cost, playback-only models for people who
> do not need that additional features.
>
> Regards,
> PianoBench
>
> On Jul 25, 2005, at 12:20 PM, Ronnie Wright wrote:
>
>
>> Thanks for the info. The key's themselves have some sort of
>> intelligence as far as from the computer to the unit, in other
>> words, the velocity changes when playing a midi file.
>>
>> Seems logical that if the unit could interpret incoming data along
>> with velocity changes and pass them to the keyboard, it could be
>> done in reverse... but maybe that's not the case.
>>
>> Do you know if this is the case for sure on my unit or are you
>> basing the information on the fact the unit does not have any
>> internal recording mechanism? I've been all over the Yamaha site
>> and can't seem to find much info. on the subject. Sounds like most
>> of the Mark III's have the recording, silent mode, and cd built in.
>> Maybe this particular unit was one of the first?
>>
>> Anyway, thanks again, appreciate the input.
>>
>> rw
>>
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>> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com on behalf of George F. Litterst
>> Sent: Mon 7/25/2005 12:03 PM
>> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Recording piano playing w/DC1A...
>>
>>
>> Good morning, again.
>>
>> The DKC55 does not support recording. The piano itself is lacking
>> either sensors under the keys (which are used in DC2 and smaller
>> grands to sense and measure key speed) or hammer sensors (which are
>> used in DC3 and larger grands to measure hammer velocity). Yamaha
>> does not make retrofit kits to add these components.
>>
>> Sounds like your best option is to trade your piano for one that has
>> the features you want.
>>
>> Regards,
>> PianoBench
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2005, at 11:06 AM, Ronnie Wright wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> It is a DKC55. If this unit doesn't support keyboard data out, do
>>> you know if it's possible to upgrade or swap the unit out for one
>>> that would.
>>>
>>> Thanks again
>>>
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>>> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com on behalf of George F. Litterst
>>> Sent: Mon 7/25/2005 10:56 AM
>>> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Recording piano playing w/DC1A...
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning, everyone.
>>>
>>> RW, is your instrument a playback-only model? If so, I don't think
>>> that it records or sends MIDI data when you play the keys.
>>>
>>> What is the DKC number on the front of the control unit?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> PianoBench
>>>
>>> On Jul 25, 2005, at 10:57 AM, Ronnie Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the info and quick reply. On my control unit (which i
>>>> believe is a Mark III without the silent system), under midi out, i
>>>> seem to have two options: "ESBL" and "Thru Port 2". I've tried both
>>>> and they don't seem to trigger out going midi data when i play the
>>>> keyboard to the laptop.
>>>>
>>>> The unit seems to work fine receiving data from the laptop,
>>>> including key movement.
>>>>
>>>> Do you know off hand if a firmware upgrade could be the issue?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>
>>>> rw
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com on behalf of George F. Litterst
>>>> Sent: Sun 7/24/2005 8:30 PM
>>>> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] Recording piano playing w/DC1A...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good evening, everyone.
>>>>
>>>> RW:
>>>>
>>>> --Press Function
>>>> --Navigate to MIDI Setup and press Enter
>>>> --Navigate to MIDI Out and press Enter
>>>>
>>>> In the MIDI Out area, you have a couple of choices for MIDI Output.
>>>> The primary choices are Keyboard Out and Ensemble Out. Keyboard Out
>>>> send out the MIDI data as you play the keyboard. Ensemble Out sends
>>>> out the MIDI data that is played from floppy disk (or internal
>>>> memory).
>>>>
>>>> The Ensemble Out choices normally just sends the tone generator
>>>> tracks when you play a disk, on the assumption that you want the
>>>> Disklavier to play the piano parts and an external tone
>>>> generator to
>>>> play the other tracks. If, for some reason, you play a prerecorded
>>>> file on your Disklavier and you want all parts to be send out the
>>>> MIDI Out port, then:
>>>>
>>>> --Press Function
>>>> --Navigate to MIDI Setup and press Enter
>>>> --Navigate to PianoPart and press Enter
>>>> --Navigate to the second page in the PianoPart area
>>>> --Set PianoPart Ensemble Out to On
>>>>
>>>> BTW, when working with a connection to a computer, be sure that the
>>>> To Host switch on the back of the control unit is set to MIDI if
>>>> you
>>>> are using a MIDI cable connection. If you are using a direct serial
>>>> connection, set the switch to Mac (for Macintosh) or PC2 for
>>>> Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> PianoBench
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 24, 2005, at 8:15 PM, mercurymouthsound wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> New to this but i'm trying to record my piano playing into a
>>>>> laptop
>>>>> via midi. I have several programs that are working fine sending
>>>>> the
>>>>> data and having the disklavier play them (both the keyboard and
>>>>> tone
>>>>> generator).
>>>>>
>>>>> But the DC1A doesn't seem to be sending any midi data to the
>>>>> laptop
>>>>> when i play. Does it only send data from the tone generator and
>>>>> not
>>>>> capture/send midi data played on the acutual keyboard?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance, sorry about the basic question.
>>>>>
>>>>> rw
>>>>>
>>>>>
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