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2008-01-17 by ramseymonoi

Morning,

I plugged in my laptop, and lo and behold, it works.

Except for tracks where left and right hands are on different channels
obviously, as the disklavier only uses channel 1 it seems.

My question is whether I should go for a proper software like cakewalk
sonar home studio 6, where I can mix channels (I think ?), or if there
are cheaper (even free !) sofwares out there which would be sufficient
for me to experiment on midi files ?

The vanbasco player does not install in vista it seems, so I'm using
something else in demo mode (can't remember the name).

Thank you all

Pascal

Re: [disklavier] software

2008-01-17 by ISKI1@aol.com

Try Anvil Studio first. _http://www.anvilstudio.com/_ 
(http://www.anvilstudio.com/) .
 
Not as powerful as Cakewalk or Power Tracks but its  free.



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Re: [disklavier] Announcement

2008-01-17 by Carl Youngblood

Anyone know if they have finally made it possible to store the Smart
Pianosoft music CDs in a compressed format?  Of all the needed
features on the Mark IV, this seems like one of the most obvious.
Without it, that little 80 gig hard drive can't hold very much music.
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On 17 Jan 2008 14:13:18 +0000, athomik <mail@...> wrote:
>  This might be interesting for those of you in the States:
> http://www.yamaha.com/namm/w2008/PressReleaseDetail.html?CTID=5041913&SUB_CAT_ID=5041913&CNTID=565864&DDL_CAT=0
>
>  athomik

Re: [disklavier] software

2008-01-17 by JORGE FERNANDEZ

You can use any MIDI software. Cakewalk Music Creator 4 has a very nice price tag, if you want better, then Cakewalk Sonar Home Studio has a few more

Re: [disklavier] software

2008-01-17 by George F. Litterst


Good morning, everyone.

On Jan 17, 2008, at 3:37 AM, ramseymonoi wrote:
Except for tracks where left and right hands are on different channels
obviously, as the disklavier only uses channel 1 it seems.

I believe that all Disklaviers let you set a MIDI Receive channel for the piano. You should at least be able to choose any single channel between 1 and 16.

Starting with the Mark II, the chooses were expanded to include:

1 + 2
--Good for files that have left and right hands separated in the way that Yamaha specifies.

HP
--Good for files that were authored for the Disklavier by Yamaha and typically published as E-SEQ. In this case, the on/off pedaling is on channel 1 along with the notes and the incremental pedaling is on channle 3.

PRG
--In this case, the Disklavier will figure out which channels contain a so-called piano group voice and will respond to the data that comes in on the lowest channel that contains a piano group voice.

PRG(ALL)
--In this case, the Disklavier will figure out which channels contain a so-called piano group voice and will respond to the data that comes in on all of those channels.

If you have a Mark IIXG or later Disklavier, PRG(ALL) will give the results that you want 95% of the time without requiring you to edit the files further.

Regards,
PianoBench
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Re: [disklavier] Announcement

2008-01-17 by Carl Youngblood

I noticed that this update is not yet available on the Yamaha FTP
site.  As I understand it, they decided to remove the 2.0 release from
the server because of differences in copyright that would make some of
the Internet Radio stuff in violation of copyright or something like
that if it were played in Europe.

I don't see why they can't just build an IP filtering mechanism into
the software.  It is very common to filter IP addresses by continent
these days.  At the very least they could put an IP filter on the FTP
site so that those of us who are in the US could still get the
software.  I don't like having to wait for my dealership.
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On 17 Jan 2008 14:13:18 +0000, athomik <mail@...> wrote:
>  This might be interesting for those of you in the States:
> http://www.yamaha.com/namm/w2008/PressReleaseDetail.html?CTID=5041913&SUB_CAT_ID=5041913&CNTID=565864&DDL_CAT=0
>
>  athomik

Re: [disklavier] Announcement

2008-01-17 by Matthew Teeter

It is also very easy to masquerade with a fake IP by using a proxy.  An IP-filter probably wouldn t satisfy the legal people.  The best system would be to give

Re: [disklavier] Announcement

2008-01-17 by Kevin Goroway

This was just an announcement of the software.  I don't think it's due to be released until the Summer.

No word on the compressed audio for the hard drive.  I'd bet it's not there.
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----- Original Message ----
From: Carl Youngblood <carl@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:20:44 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Announcement










  


    
            I noticed that this update is not yet available on the Yamaha FTP

site.  As I understand it, they decided to remove the 2.0 release from

the server because of differences in copyright that would make some of

the Internet Radio stuff in violation of copyright or something like

that if it were played in Europe.



I don't see why they can't just build an IP filtering mechanism into

the software.  It is very common to filter IP addresses by continent

these days.  At the very least they could put an IP filter on the FTP

site so that those of us who are in the US could still get the

software.  I don't like having to wait for my dealership.



On 17 Jan 2008 14:13:18 +0000, athomik <mail@mangeztout. co.uk> wrote:

>  This might be interesting for those of you in the States:

> http://www.yamaha. com/namm/ w2008/PressRelea seDetail. html?CTID= 5041913&SUB_ CAT_ID=5041913& CNTID=565864& DDL_CAT=0

>

>  athomik



    
  

    
    




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Re: [disklavier] Announcement

2008-01-17 by Kevin Goroway

I saw this announcement a few days ago, and thought about the PC interface as well.  I have a hard time believing that they've just done what Matt did originally, and what I do in DKVBrowser (just hang out on the same wireless interface).  Reason being...it's just not easy for people to have their pc switch between wireless networks.  If they did do that, most people won't be terribly happy (although DKVBrowser users don't complain too much).

I'm really hoping that what they've done is allow it to be done over the "Disklavier Radio" ethernet port...the one that most people have already attached their PC to for the From/To PC folder and the other internet features.

It effectively ends the need to have DKVBrowser (assuming they do a good job), so I'm a bit sad...but I'm happy they are addressing the users wishes.

-Kevin
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----- Original Message ----
From: Matthew Teeter <mrmuk7@...>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:35:48 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] Announcement










  


    
            It is also very easy to masquerade with a fake IP by using a proxy.  An IP-filter probably wouldn't satisfy the legal people.  The best system would be to give customers a password upon purchase and each subsequent mail update, and authenticate customers with that.


The article is an interesting find.  I am curious what interface they have created for controlling the Disklavier from PC.


On Jan 17, 2008 8:20 AM, Carl Youngblood <
carl@youngbloods. org> wrote:













  


    
            I noticed that this update is not yet available on the Yamaha FTP

site.  As I understand it, they decided to remove the 2.0 release from

the server because of differences in copyright that would make some of

the Internet Radio stuff in violation of copyright or something like

that if it were played in Europe.



I don't see why they can't just build an IP filtering mechanism into

the software.  It is very common to filter IP addresses by continent

these days.  At the very least they could put an IP filter on the FTP

site so that those of us who are in the US could still get the

software.  I don't like having to wait for my dealership.




On 17 Jan 2008 14:13:18 +0000, athomik <mail@mangeztout. co.uk> wrote:


>  This might be interesting for those of you in the States:

> http://www.yamaha. com/namm/ w2008/PressRelea seDetail. html?CTID= 5041913&SUB_CAT_ID=5041913&CNTID=565864&DDL_CAT=0


>

>  athomik



    
  

    
    






















    
  

    
    




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Re: [disklavier] Announcement

2008-01-17 by Carl Youngblood

Actually, there is legal precedent for an IP filter being sufficient.
Look at the recent (and unfortunate) cease-and-desist letter written
to the operator of the International Sheet Music Library Project:

http://imslpforums.org/Second%20U-E%20Cease%20and%20Desist%20Letter.pdf

These lawyers claim that they would be satisfied by an IP filter.
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On Jan 17, 2008 9:35 AM, Matthew Teeter <mrmuk7@...> wrote:
> It is also very easy to masquerade with a fake IP by using a proxy.  An
> IP-filter probably wouldn't satisfy the legal people.  The best system would
> be to give customers a password upon purchase and each subsequent mail
> update, and authenticate customers with that.
>
> The article is an interesting find.  I am curious what interface they have
> created for controlling the Disklavier from PC.

Re: software

2008-01-18 by ramseymonoi

Thank you.

After asking the question, I found Carol's website where I should have
started really (doh!) !

Since then, I have downloaded GNMIDI player, and after testing it, I
found that it does everything I want at this stage, for $30.

I have been having a lot of fun listening to all those new tracks !

Pascal


--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst"
<PianoBench@...> wrote:
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>
> 
> Good morning, everyone.
> 
> On Jan 17, 2008, at 3:37 AM, ramseymonoi wrote:
> > Except for tracks where left and right hands are on different channels
> > obviously, as the disklavier only uses channel 1 it seems.
> 
> I believe that all Disklaviers let you set a MIDI Receive channel for  
> the piano. You should at least be able to choose any single channel  
> between 1 and 16.
> 
> Starting with the Mark II, the chooses were expanded to include:
> 
> 1 + 2
> --Good for files that have left and right hands separated in the way  
> that Yamaha specifies.
> 
> HP
> --Good for files that were authored for the Disklavier by Yamaha and  
> typically published as E-SEQ. In this case, the on/off pedaling is on  
> channel 1 along with the notes and the incremental pedaling is on  
> channle 3.
> 
> PRG
> --In this case, the Disklavier will figure out which channels contain  
> a so-called piano group voice and will respond to the data that comes  
> in on the lowest channel that contains a piano group voice.
> 
> PRG(ALL)
> --In this case, the Disklavier will figure out which channels contain  
> a so-called piano group voice and will respond to the data that comes  
> in on all of those channels.
> 
> If you have a Mark IIXG or later Disklavier, PRG(ALL) will give the  
> results that you want 95% of the time without requiring you to edit  
> the files further.
> 
> Regards,
> PianoBench
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: software

2008-01-18 by JORGE FERNANDEZ

Well done pascal! Carol page is the place to start and to come back from time to time. Just note that for just 5 dollars more you can download Cakewalk Music 

Re: software

2008-01-20 by ramseymonoi

This is where I stand now:

I've downloaded so many pieces, I do not know where to start but that
is a good thing (and I found my favourite, Rhapsody in blue by
Gershwin)! I have a good hifi, but it just does not compare to piano
music coming straight from the instrument.

The piano needs a good tune up, which will be done this week. And I
need to find out how to do the channel programming as Jorge describes,
as for the moment I have to edit the files and send all the piano
channels to channel 1. Not really a big deal, it is easily done on
Gnmidi (although I cannot find the pianodisc fonction ?!?)

My question of the day is what the midi out is for on the piano ? Does
it mean that GNMIDI sends all the channels info to the DKV, and
whatever is not needed comes back through the midi out to be played by
a sound card ?

Basically, I now want to have all the other instruments on a midi file
to be used by a soundcard and sent to the hifi.

I'm going to explore the cakewalk software.

Pascal


--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "JORGE FERNANDEZ" <jorgefedez@...>
wrote:
>
> Well done pascal!
> Carol page is the place to start and to come back from time to time.
> 
> Just note that for just 5 dollars more you can download Cakewalk "Music
> Creator 4"
> 
>
http://store.cakewalk.com/b2cus/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=10-CWMC4.00-20E
> 
> No demo version is available for this version, but you can try the
demo of
> the bigger (and more costly) brother software.
> 
> http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/kb20061101.asp
> 
> 
> 
> I have both (GNMIDI and CWMC). My personal opinion is that cakewalk is a
> professional software package; it has a much better user interface
and can
> do some complex tasks.
> 
> 
> On the other hand, even that GNMIDI is no so well finished, it has some
> unique features, specific for DKVs, not found anywhere else, and
it's user
> interface is so simple that, for beginners, is very easy to learn and
> understand.
> 
> Let us know your advances.
> 
> 2008/1/18, ramseymonoi <ramseymonoi@...>:
> 
> >   Thank you.
> >
> > After asking the question, I found Carol's website where I should have
> > started really (doh!) !
> >
> > Since then, I have downloaded GNMIDI player, and after testing it, I
> > found that it does everything I want at this stage, for $30.
> >
> > I have been having a lot of fun listening to all those new tracks !
> >
> > Pascal
> >
> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com <disklavier%40yahoogroups.com>,
"George
> > F. Litterst"
> > <PianoBench@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Good morning, everyone.
> > >
> > > On Jan 17, 2008, at 3:37 AM, ramseymonoi wrote:
> > > > Except for tracks where left and right hands are on different
channels
> > > > obviously, as the disklavier only uses channel 1 it seems.
> > >
> > > I believe that all Disklaviers let you set a MIDI Receive
channel for
> > > the piano. You should at least be able to choose any single channel
> > > between 1 and 16.
> > >
> > > Starting with the Mark II, the chooses were expanded to include:
> > >
> > > 1 + 2
> > > --Good for files that have left and right hands separated in the way
> > > that Yamaha specifies.
> > >
> > > HP
> > > --Good for files that were authored for the Disklavier by Yamaha and
> > > typically published as E-SEQ. In this case, the on/off pedaling
is on
> > > channel 1 along with the notes and the incremental pedaling is on
> > > channle 3.
> > >
> > > PRG
> > > --In this case, the Disklavier will figure out which channels
contain
> > > a so-called piano group voice and will respond to the data that
comes
> > > in on the lowest channel that contains a piano group voice.
> > >
> > > PRG(ALL)
> > > --In this case, the Disklavier will figure out which channels
contain
> > > a so-called piano group voice and will respond to the data that
comes
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> > > in on all of those channels.
> > >
> > > If you have a Mark IIXG or later Disklavier, PRG(ALL) will give the
> > > results that you want 95% of the time without requiring you to edit
> > > the files further.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > PianoBench
> > >
> >
> > 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Saludos
> Jorge Fernández
>                                    '''
>                     |            (0 0)
> ___,,,^..^,,,__/----oOO---(_)---OOo---
>

Re: [disklavier] Re: software

2008-01-20 by Spencer_Lists

Greetings Pascal,

In GNMIDI, it is file, batch conversion, sound setup for pianodisc in all files to do the conversion for PD.

my midimod2 and remap channel programs can also be useful for changing channels and patches. 

http://www.spencerserolls.com/Files4Download.html


Sunday, January 20, 2008, 4:57:55 AM, you wrote:
> This is where I stand now:

> I've downloaded so many pieces, I do not know where to start but that
> is a good thing (and I found my favourite, Rhapsody in blue by
> Gershwin)! I have a good hifi, but it just does not compare to piano
> music coming straight from the instrument.

> The piano needs a good tune up, which will be done this week. And I
> need to find out how to do the channel programming as Jorge describes,
> as for the moment I have to edit the files and send all the piano
> channels to channel 1. Not really a big deal, it is easily done on
> Gnmidi (although I cannot find the pianodisc fonction ?!?)

> My question of the day is what the midi out is for on the piano ? Does
> it mean that GNMIDI sends all the channels info to the DKV, and
> whatever is not needed comes back through the midi out to be played by
> a sound card ?


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