Disklavier

I am having the following problem with my DC5PRO.

I have my DC5PRO connected to a Macintosh G4 Powerbook 
computer using a Roland UM-1 USB-MIDI converter.  I can 
successfully playback MIDI files from the computer and can also 
record to a sequencer when playing the piano myself.  What 
does not seem to work is when I play a disk in the Disklavier and 
try to record that to the sequencer in the computer.  I get many 
incorrect extra notes and pedaling movements when doing this.  
It also sets the Disklavier to an infinite loop when playing back 
what is recorded.  I don't know if it is a defect in the control box or 
if I am setting it up incorrectly.  I am using Digital Performer 2.72 
as the Sequencer.  

Since I can both playback/self record from/to the computer, I 
believe my connections are correct and the method in which I am 
using the sequencer in concert with the piano is correct.  But for 
the case of recording a disk from the Disklavier to the sequencer 
there is something not working.  I have set the MIDI Out to ESBL 
Out as well as the Piano Part ESBL Out = ON.  I have the Host 
Select Switch set to MIDI.  If someone could help me out on this 
I'd appreciate any advice.

Hello Everyone,

Regarding the message below: Do you have MIDI Thru turned on in your computer 
sequencer? If so, try turning it off.

Regards,
PianoBench

In a message dated 3/17/01 5:08:35 PM, dave_budde@... writes:

<< I am having the following problem with my DC5PRO.

I have my DC5PRO connected to a Macintosh G4 Powerbook 
computer using a Roland UM-1 USB-MIDI converter.  I can 
successfully playback MIDI files from the computer and can also 
record to a sequencer when playing the piano myself.  What 
does not seem to work is when I play a disk in the Disklavier and 
try to record that to the sequencer in the computer.  I get many 
incorrect extra notes and pedaling movements when doing this.  
It also sets the Disklavier to an infinite loop when playing back 
what is recorded.  I don't know if it is a defect in the control box or 
if I am setting it up incorrectly.  I am using Digital Performer 2.72 
as the Sequencer.  

Since I can both playback/self record from/to the computer, I 
believe my connections are correct and the method in which I am 
using the sequencer in concert with the piano is correct.  But for 
the case of recording a disk from the Disklavier to the sequencer 
there is something not working.  I have set the MIDI Out to ESBL 
Out as well as the Piano Part ESBL Out = ON.  I have the Host 
Select Switch set to MIDI.  If someone could help me out on this 
I'd appreciate any advice. >>

Dave:  You are getting loopback.  The quickest way to stop it is to disconnect
the MIDI-in cable at the DKV, while you are recording to the sequencer, and use
only the MIDI-out connection at the DKV.  Your sequencer has an option somewhere
to turn off its loopback.  The sequencer's default, when you launch it, is
probably "Loopback On".  

I got so tired of that happening, I built a switchbox that the two MIDI cables
pass through so that I can break the data line in either direction.

dave_budde@... wrote:
> 
> I am having the following problem with my DC5PRO.
> 
> I have my DC5PRO connected to a Macintosh G4 Powerbook
> computer using a Roland UM-1 USB-MIDI converter.  I can
> successfully playback MIDI files from the computer and can also
> record to a sequencer when playing the piano myself.  What
> does not seem to work is when I play a disk in the Disklavier and
> try to record that to the sequencer in the computer.  I get many
> incorrect extra notes and pedaling movements when doing this.
> It also sets the Disklavier to an infinite loop when playing back
> what is recorded.  I don't know if it is a defect in the control box or
> if I am setting it up incorrectly.  I am using Digital Performer 2.72
> as the Sequencer.
> 
> Since I can both playback/self record from/to the computer, I
> believe my connections are correct and the method in which I am
> using the sequencer in concert with the piano is correct.  But for
> the case of recording a disk from the Disklavier to the sequencer
> there is something not working.  I have set the MIDI Out to ESBL
> Out as well as the Piano Part ESBL Out = ON.  I have the Host
> Select Switch set to MIDI.  If someone could help me out on this
> I'd appreciate any advice.
> 
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Hello Everyone,

In a message dated 3/18/01 1:16:45 AM, rwelcyng@... writes:

<< Dave:  You are getting loopback.  The quickest way to stop it is to 
disconnect
the MIDI-in cable at the DKV, while you are recording to the sequencer, and 
use
only the MIDI-out connection at the DKV.  Your sequencer has an option 
somewhere
to turn off its loopback.  The sequencer's default, when you launch it, is
probably "Loopback On".  

I got so tired of that happening, I built a switchbox that the two MIDI cables
pass through so that I can break the data line in either direction. >>

Just to clarify for others what is happening:

A MIDI loop can result when you have set MIDI Out on the Disklavier to 
Keyboard Out and have also turned on MIDI Thru in the software running on the 
computer. In this situation, when you play on the Disklavier, you send 
Note-On messages to the computer, which then echoes those messages back to 
the Disklavier. Echoed messages cause the Disklavier to play those same keys 
again and send the same messages all over again--etc.

Changing the Disklavier's MIDI Out setting, changing the Disklavier's MIDI 
Receive Channel setting (so that it does not match the channel of any 
incoming data), and turning off the MIDI Thru feature on the computer all 
solve the problem.

Regards,
PianoBench