Elektron Musical Instruments

Bastiaan van de Werk wrote:
> I think the original samples are only 16 or 32 kb (those used in the
> 909)...personally I think elektron should just give us the 909 hat in
> the next update...with a few EXTRA parameters (not just pitch and
> decay, but some sort of sizzling exciter, grunge, noise, attack etc.)
>
> Hey, why don't we start some sort of whishlist that we can send
> elektron? I'm sure this company (which is known for its great
> customer care) would be more than interested to see what they can do
> to improve the MD.

Sounds like a good idea to me, although, to be honest, at the moment I'm
still in the starting phase of working with the MD, and I cannot think of
any real "must haves".

Personally, I don't really care too much for "real 909" samples. The best
thing - for me - about the MD is that you can make it sound very different
from anything else.

What someone else proposed, though, the possibility to add some samples of
your own, might be very interesting, even if it's only a couple of 100 K.
I'm just wondering if that wouln't make things very complicated - for
Elektron *and* for us. Maybe we should just wait for an elektron "groove"
sampler...

:))

Gert

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I'm confused by how people can be into the idea of the Machinedrum, but still want 909 hihats!!! They are the drum machine equivalent of the Yamaha DX7 electric piano. Every friggin record uses them in exactly the same way. If you really want them, then just get a cheap SU200 sampler that can run in sync...

Surely, being 'forced' to create new sounds that have an equal or better listener response is a more creative approach?

I know most people relate to and like the sound of the 909 (including me), but maybe it's time to move on?

Andy
www.neuroport.net



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Right on.  But you can't blame people trying to emulate.  It can move 
the crowds.  I wish I had a better argument for this.  I try not to 
emulate however.  I really don't care what other drum machines sound 
like.  I love my MD.  It leaves the 909 in the dust.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Andy D" <andy@n...> wrote:
> I'm confused by how people can be into the idea of the Machinedrum, 
but still want 909 hihats!!! They are the drum machine equivalent of 
the Yamaha DX7 electric piano. Every friggin record uses them in 
exactly the same way. If you really want them, then just get a cheap 
SU200 sampler that can run in sync...
> 
> Surely, being 'forced' to create new sounds that have an equal or 
better listener response is a more creative approach?
> 
> I know most people relate to and like the sound of the 909 
(including me), but maybe it's time to move on?

> 
> Andy
> www.neuroport.net
> 
> 
> 
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Yah I agree, I just think people should appreciate the MD for sounding different. It's easy to say I wish it sounded like a 909, could do 303 bass sounds, had nord lead sounds etc. You can do all that with a Roland type groovebox. If the MD did everything people wanted, then it wouldn't be unique.

I guess the good thing about trying to emulate is that you discover new sounds and learn the machine in the process, even if you don't get the sound you wanted. :o)

Andy
www.neuroport.net

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: endlessnessisticman <endlessnessisticman@...> 
  To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [elektron] 909 hats


  Right on.  But you can't blame people trying to emulate.  It can move 
  the crowds.  I wish I had a better argument for this.  I try not to 
  emulate however.  I really don't care what other drum machines sound 
  like.  I love my MD.  It leaves the 909 in the dust.

  --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Andy D" <andy@n...> wrote:
  > I'm confused by how people can be into the idea of the Machinedrum, 
  but still want 909 hihats!!! They are the drum machine equivalent of 
  the Yamaha DX7 electric piano. Every friggin record uses them in 
  exactly the same way. If you really want them, then just get a cheap 
  SU200 sampler that can run in sync...
  > 
  > Surely, being 'forced' to create new sounds that have an equal or 
  better listener response is a more creative approach?
  > 
  > I know most people relate to and like the sound of the 909 
  (including me), but maybe it's time to move on?
  > 
  > Andy
  > www.neuroport.net
  > 
  > 
  > 
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Well, spending 3 times 32 kb on those 909 samples and ginving them a 
machine of their own (one that adds an exciter, analogue-like 
filter, compression, attack, decay, pitch etc.etc.) is something 
neither a real 909 nor my groovebox nor my sampler can 
do...allthough the sampler comes closest. It would be a better use 
of memory in the MD than that silly elvis demo....wouldn't you agree 
on that?

Who wouldn't mind a few extra machines in their MD? I know I 
wouldn''t. (Am I sounding too greedy??)

I did get some very nice results, when trying to emulate the 
909...none sounded like a 909 at all but I got some very nice hats 
indeed.

Yes, that's cool - give the '909 machine' a real twist with something like a comb filter or something wacky that encourages the user to stay away from the standard 909 classic sound.

I guess my reservations are party about the MD becoming too popular - something far more likely if it's viewed as an enhanced 909 clone. Many people on this list have asked if it can do 909 kicks, 909 hihats, and 909 type pattern sequencing. These seem to be key purchasing points for many users.

I just like having a 'secret weapon' that not many others own! :o)

Andy
www.neuroport.net

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: basvandewerk <Bazziman@...> 
  To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [elektron] 909 hats


  Well, spending 3 times 32 kb on those 909 samples and ginving them a 
  machine of their own (one that adds an exciter, analogue-like 
  filter, compression, attack, decay, pitch etc.etc.) is something 
  neither a real 909 nor my groovebox nor my sampler can 
  do...allthough the sampler comes closest. It would be a better use 
  of memory in the MD than that silly elvis demo....wouldn't you agree 
  on that?

  Who wouldn't mind a few extra machines in their MD? I know I 
  wouldn''t. (Am I sounding too greedy??)

  I did get some very nice results, when trying to emulate the 
  909...none sounded like a 909 at all but I got some very nice hats 
  indeed.


  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 


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Hi,

Does anyone know what plans they have for future updates? Is there much more that they can fit in with the available DSP and RAM?

Thinking Happy Thoughts
Amos

Hi again,

How about a Pre Fade send to the delay and the reverb? You could leave the volume of the drum turned down and just have the delayed sound. This would open up a world of subtle rhythms and effects.

Just a thought.....

Thinking Happy Thoughts
Amos