Elektron Musical Instruments

After playing for two consecutive days
with my MD, i'm  having a lot of
problems with constant crashes.
I'm still waiting for tech support about
this issue.

Meanwhile, i'd like to know if  MD owners
are still experiencing crashes with
OS 1.12b. If so, how often and how 
does it happen ? And  on start up,
do you  see the letter *F* in the left corner ?

I spent around 10-12 hours on mine and it has
crashed at least 15 times. That's not what i call
stable. Maybe there is a problem with the
hardware, who knows.

Thanks for your help,

Simon

Hello,
i own the MD since last october. Still i am on OS 1.12, didn't had the
time to install 1.12b, but i wanted it to do comming weekend. My MD
never had a crash at all, mine seems to be very stable. So i start to
if something is wrong with 1.12b? Also there seems to be a problem
with newer MD's from the last batches...
Anyhow, i love this machine and will never miss it. Hopefully the
upcomming MonoMachines do not get the same probs...
Stefan

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Simon " <Simonvolt@v...> wrote:

> After playing for two consecutive days
> with my MD, i'm  having a lot of
> problems with constant crashes.
> I'm still waiting for tech support about
> this issue.
> 
> Meanwhile, i'd like to know if  MD owners
> are still experiencing crashes with
> OS 1.12b. If so, how often and how 
> does it happen ? And  on start up,
> do you  see the letter *F* in the left corner ?
> 
> I spent around 10-12 hours on mine and it has
> crashed at least 15 times. That's not what i call
> stable. Maybe there is a problem with the
> hardware, who knows.
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> 
> Simon

>> Also there seems to be a problem
with newer MD's from the last batches... <<

That's exactly why i was so mad when i got
mine. I thought if they started shipping again,
all problems most have been resolved.
I guess not :)


on 08/05/03 2:46 AM, privat_joy at privat_joy@... wrote:

Hello,
i own the MD since last october. Still i am on OS 1.12, didn't had the
time to install 1.12b, but i wanted it to do comming weekend. My MD
never had a crash at all, mine seems to be very stable. So i start to
if something is wrong with 1.12b? Also there seems to be a problem
with newer MD's from the last batches...
Anyhow, i love this machine and will never miss it. Hopefully the
upcomming MonoMachines do not get the same probs...
Stefan

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Simon " <Simonvolt@v...> wrote:
> After playing for two consecutive days
> with my MD, i'm  having a lot of
> problems with constant crashes.
> I'm still waiting for tech support about
> this issue.
> 
> Meanwhile, i'd like to know if  MD owners
> are still experiencing crashes with
> OS 1.12b. If so, how often and how
> does it happen ? And  on start up,
> do you  see the letter *F* in the left corner ?
> 
> I spent around 10-12 hours on mine and it has
> crashed at least 15 times. That's not what i call
> stable. Maybe there is a problem with the
> hardware, who knows.
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> 
> Simon


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On Thu May 08 2003, Simon  <Simonvolt@...> wrote:

> Meanwhile, i'd like to know if  MD owners
> are still experiencing crashes with
> OS 1.12b. If so, how often and how 
> does it happen ? And  on start up,
> do you  see the letter *F* in the left corner ?

I am ashamed to say that I haven't switched on my MD since last Friday
when it got upgraded to 1.12b, so I can't say anything about it.

> I spent around 10-12 hours on mine and it has
> crashed at least 15 times. That's not what i call
> stable. Maybe there is a problem with the
> hardware, who knows.

Weirdness. In what way does it crash? Locks up totally? Some of the
sounds gone silent?

/Janne

I have turned my MD on only last night, but I don't spend hours on it.
 Usually about three hours every ohter day on average.  I don't get a
total crash but sometimes things like the 16 buttons on the bottom
dont work.  
Once I tried to go to mute mode and it wouldn't.  But I could trigger
the sounds with the buttons.  The mute lights didn't go on.  Other
times I couldn't change between patterns.  I'd press the bank letter
and the bank lights wouldn't light and it couldn't change to another
bank.  So it seems to be with the bank letters and the 16 lights some
kind of system miscommunication.  
Maybe it's a buffer thing.  It has happened after alot of live
programming and alot of action on the MD as of sequencing.  This is
while using all types of machines from the drums to inputs to midi
machines.  Really pushing the limits. 
I have not installed the b version.  By the way, I went to the
elektron site and didn't see the b version there last night.


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Janne G:son Berg"
<d3berg@d...> wrote:

> On Thu May 08 2003, Simon  <Simonvolt@v...> wrote:
> 
> > Meanwhile, i'd like to know if  MD owners
> > are still experiencing crashes with
> > OS 1.12b. If so, how often and how 
> > does it happen ? And  on start up,
> > do you  see the letter *F* in the left corner ?
> 
> I am ashamed to say that I haven't switched on my MD since last Friday
> when it got upgraded to 1.12b, so I can't say anything about it.
> 
> > I spent around 10-12 hours on mine and it has
> > crashed at least 15 times. That's not what i call
> > stable. Maybe there is a problem with the
> > hardware, who knows.
> 
> Weirdness. In what way does it crash? Locks up totally? Some of the
> sounds gone silent?
> 
> /Janne

I intended to use the MD live.
I spend a lot more money  because
i prefer hardware and they are *usually*
more stable.
The more i dive in to the MD adventure,
the more Waldorf Attack, Ableton Live and
a laptop look attractive.

I so wish i'm wrong on this one...

on 08/05/03 3:43 AM, endlessnessisticman at endlessnessisticman@...
wrote:

I have turned my MD on only last night, but I don't spend hours on it.
Usually about three hours every ohter day on average.  I don't get a
total crash but sometimes things like the 16 buttons on the bottom
dont work.  
Once I tried to go to mute mode and it wouldn't.  But I could trigger
the sounds with the buttons.  The mute lights didn't go on.  Other
times I couldn't change between patterns.  I'd press the bank letter
and the bank lights wouldn't light and it couldn't change to another
bank.  So it seems to be with the bank letters and the 16 lights some
kind of system miscommunication.
Maybe it's a buffer thing.  It has happened after alot of live
programming and alot of action on the MD as of sequencing.  This is
while using all types of machines from the drums to inputs to midi
machines.  Really pushing the limits.
I have not installed the b version.  By the way, I went to the
elektron site and didn't see the b version there last night.


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Janne G:son Berg"
<d3berg@d...> wrote:
> On Thu May 08 2003, Simon  <Simonvolt@v...> wrote:
> 
> > Meanwhile, i'd like to know if  MD owners
> > are still experiencing crashes with
> > OS 1.12b. If so, how often and how
> > does it happen ? And  on start up,
> > do you  see the letter *F* in the left corner ?
> 
> I am ashamed to say that I haven't switched on my MD since last Friday
> when it got upgraded to 1.12b, so I can't say anything about it.
> 
> > I spent around 10-12 hours on mine and it has
> > crashed at least 15 times. That's not what i call
> > stable. Maybe there is a problem with the
> > hardware, who knows.
> 
> Weirdness. In what way does it crash? Locks up totally? Some of the
> sounds gone silent?
> 
> /Janne


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I am sure you wrong !!!!!
MD is the machine and the sequencer is very usefull. I am sure that
elektron will fix this problem, but you say you didn't heard anything
from them. Did you try to call them? Over here in germany we have some
predial-numbers which make an fardistancecall not to a moneyproblem
anymore.
I think the Attack is also a great device, but the VSTI-Attack is all
i need, and it is much easier to create new sound on it, because it
has more knobs. But i love Synthmachines with there own sequencer, i
also have the Future Retro 777, MPC2000XL, Q, Evolver, X-Base09, Karma
and i use the Doepfer Schaltwerk together with the Voyager. I will
also buy the monomachine, just because of the sequencer-options.
SoftwareSeauencer are nice, but i can work bettter with Hardware.
....try to call elektron.
Stefan


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, simon leclerc <Simonvolt@v...>
wrote:

> I intended to use the MD live.
> I spend a lot more money  because
> i prefer hardware and they are *usually*
> more stable.
> The more i dive in to the MD adventure,
> the more Waldorf Attack, Ableton Live and
> a laptop look attractive.
> 
> I so wish i'm wrong on this one...
> 
> on 08/05/03 3:43 AM, endlessnessisticman at endlessnessisticman@y...
> wrote:
> 
> I have turned my MD on only last night, but I don't spend hours on it.
> Usually about three hours every ohter day on average.  I don't get a
> total crash but sometimes things like the 16 buttons on the bottom
> dont work.  
> Once I tried to go to mute mode and it wouldn't.  But I could trigger
> the sounds with the buttons.  The mute lights didn't go on.  Other
> times I couldn't change between patterns.  I'd press the bank letter
> and the bank lights wouldn't light and it couldn't change to another
> bank.  So it seems to be with the bank letters and the 16 lights some
> kind of system miscommunication.
> Maybe it's a buffer thing.  It has happened after alot of live
> programming and alot of action on the MD as of sequencing.  This is
> while using all types of machines from the drums to inputs to midi
> machines.  Really pushing the limits.
> I have not installed the b version.  By the way, I went to the
> elektron site and didn't see the b version there last night.
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Janne G:son Berg"
> <d3berg@d...> wrote:
> > On Thu May 08 2003, Simon  <Simonvolt@v...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Meanwhile, i'd like to know if  MD owners
> > > are still experiencing crashes with
> > > OS 1.12b. If so, how often and how
> > > does it happen ? And  on start up,
> > > do you  see the letter *F* in the left corner ?
> > 
> > I am ashamed to say that I haven't switched on my MD since last Friday
> > when it got upgraded to 1.12b, so I can't say anything about it.
> > 
> > > I spent around 10-12 hours on mine and it has
> > > crashed at least 15 times. That's not what i call
> > > stable. Maybe there is a problem with the
> > > hardware, who knows.
> > 
> > Weirdness. In what way does it crash? Locks up totally? Some of the
> > sounds gone silent?
> > 
> > /Janne
> 
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I think I will have to go change my shirt..... I have drool all down the 
front of mine..... =0) You own most of my wishlist and all of my fave gear. 
By the way, the FR777 is going out of production, so anyone interested in 
owning the greatest box of acid ever builot should hurry... I'm saving for a 
second one =0)

thinking happy thoughts
amos


>From: "privat_joy" <privat_joy@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [elektron] OS 1.12b crashes or not ?
>Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 08:32:32 -0000
>
>I am sure you wrong !!!!!
>MD is the machine and the sequencer is very usefull. I am sure that
>elektron will fix this problem, but you say you didn't heard anything
>from them. Did you try to call them? Over here in germany we have some
>predial-numbers which make an fardistancecall not to a moneyproblem
>anymore.
>I think the Attack is also a great device, but the VSTI-Attack is all
>i need, and it is much easier to create new sound on it, because it
>has more knobs. But i love Synthmachines with there own sequencer, i
>also have the Future Retro 777, MPC2000XL, Q, Evolver, X-Base09, Karma
>and i use the Doepfer Schaltwerk together with the Voyager. I will
>also buy the monomachine, just because of the sequencer-options.
>SoftwareSeauencer are nice, but i can work bettter with Hardware.
>....try to call elektron.
>Stefan
>
>
>--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, simon leclerc <Simonvolt@v...>
>wrote:
> > I intended to use the MD live.
> > I spend a lot more money  because
> > i prefer hardware and they are *usually*
> > more stable.
> > The more i dive in to the MD adventure,
> > the more Waldorf Attack, Ableton Live and
> > a laptop look attractive.
> >
> > I so wish i'm wrong on this one...
> >
> > on 08/05/03 3:43 AM, endlessnessisticman at endlessnessisticman@y...
> > wrote:
> >
> > I have turned my MD on only last night, but I don't spend hours on it.
> > Usually about three hours every ohter day on average.  I don't get a
> > total crash but sometimes things like the 16 buttons on the bottom
> > dont work.
> > Once I tried to go to mute mode and it wouldn't.  But I could trigger
> > the sounds with the buttons.  The mute lights didn't go on.  Other
> > times I couldn't change between patterns.  I'd press the bank letter
> > and the bank lights wouldn't light and it couldn't change to another
> > bank.  So it seems to be with the bank letters and the 16 lights some
> > kind of system miscommunication.
> > Maybe it's a buffer thing.  It has happened after alot of live
> > programming and alot of action on the MD as of sequencing.  This is
> > while using all types of machines from the drums to inputs to midi
> > machines.  Really pushing the limits.
> > I have not installed the b version.  By the way, I went to the
> > elektron site and didn't see the b version there last night.
> >
> >
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Janne G:son Berg"
> > <d3berg@d...> wrote:
> > > On Thu May 08 2003, Simon  <Simonvolt@v...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Meanwhile, i'd like to know if  MD owners
> > > > are still experiencing crashes with
> > > > OS 1.12b. If so, how often and how
> > > > does it happen ? And  on start up,
> > > > do you  see the letter *F* in the left corner ?
> > >
> > > I am ashamed to say that I haven't switched on my MD since last Friday
> > > when it got upgraded to 1.12b, so I can't say anything about it.
> > >
> > > > I spent around 10-12 hours on mine and it has
> > > > crashed at least 15 times. That's not what i call
> > > > stable. Maybe there is a problem with the
> > > > hardware, who knows.
> > >
> > > Weirdness. In what way does it crash? Locks up totally? Some of the
> > > sounds gone silent?
> > >
> > > /Janne
> >
> >
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On Thu May 08 2003, amos luyk <amosluyk@...> wrote:

> I think I will have to go change my shirt..... I have drool all down the 
> front of mine..... =0) You own most of my wishlist and all of my fave gear. 

Totally agree!

> By the way, the FR777 is going out of production, so anyone interested in 
> owning the greatest box of acid ever builot should hurry... I'm saving for a 
> second one =0)

Sorry mate, but the 303 is unbeatable when it comes to acid. I've got
both a 777 and a 303. The 777 is not as "bouncy" as the 303. Somehow
the envelopes of the 777 seems to lack punch compared to the 303. I
haven't modified the 777 for snappier envelopes though, but I feel
that it needs it! The sequencer of the 777 is one of the best pattern
sequencers that I have used.

As for gear, have a look at mine...
http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg/jgb_gear.jpg

I just need a "few" more pieces. :)

/Janne

Do that mod.... you really won't regret it =0)

BTW... the official word from Henrik at Elektron is as follows...

"We have had no problems at all with stability
under OS 1.12b on the units we use here at the Elektron HQ."

tht
a


>From: "Janne G:son Berg" <d3berg@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [elektron] OS 1.12b crashes or not ?
>Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 10:50:15 +0200
>
>On Thu May 08 2003, amos luyk <amosluyk@...> wrote:
>
> > I think I will have to go change my shirt..... I have drool all down the
> > front of mine..... =0) You own most of my wishlist and all of my fave 
>gear.
>
>Totally agree!
>
> > By the way, the FR777 is going out of production, so anyone interested 
>in
> > owning the greatest box of acid ever builot should hurry... I'm saving 
>for a
> > second one =0)
>
>Sorry mate, but the 303 is unbeatable when it comes to acid. I've got
>both a 777 and a 303. The 777 is not as "bouncy" as the 303. Somehow
>the envelopes of the 777 seems to lack punch compared to the 303. I
>haven't modified the 777 for snappier envelopes though, but I feel
>that it needs it! The sequencer of the 777 is one of the best pattern
>sequencers that I have used.
>
>As for gear, have a look at mine...
>http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg/jgb_gear.jpg
>
>I just need a "few" more pieces. :)
>
>/Janne
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>

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hi

I've had the MD for about 6 Months now never a crash and i leave it on for
around 3 hrs at a time.

One question has anyone ever seen a weird picture come up on the boot up
screen on 1.12b...i saw it once but i only glanced at it...it doesn't seem
to come on everytime.

2nd Question whats the evolver like for Bass and drones? I was thinking
about getting a pulse but the Evolver looks very attractive.

Thanks


----- Original Message -----

From: "privat_joy" <privat_joy@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [elektron] OS 1.12b crashes or not ?


> I am sure you wrong !!!!!
> MD is the machine and the sequencer is very usefull. I am sure that
> elektron will fix this problem, but you say you didn't heard anything
> from them. Did you try to call them? Over here in germany we have some
> predial-numbers which make an fardistancecall not to a moneyproblem
> anymore.
> I think the Attack is also a great device, but the VSTI-Attack is all
> i need, and it is much easier to create new sound on it, because it
> has more knobs. But i love Synthmachines with there own sequencer, i
> also have the Future Retro 777, MPC2000XL, Q, Evolver, X-Base09, Karma
> and i use the Doepfer Schaltwerk together with the Voyager. I will
> also buy the monomachine, just because of the sequencer-options.
> SoftwareSeauencer are nice, but i can work bettter with Hardware.
> ....try to call elektron.
> Stefan
>
>
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, simon leclerc <Simonvolt@v...>
> wrote:
> > I intended to use the MD live.
> > I spend a lot more money  because
> > i prefer hardware and they are *usually*
> > more stable.
> > The more i dive in to the MD adventure,
> > the more Waldorf Attack, Ableton Live and
> > a laptop look attractive.
> >
> > I so wish i'm wrong on this one...
> >
> > on 08/05/03 3:43 AM, endlessnessisticman at endlessnessisticman@y...
> > wrote:
> >
> > I have turned my MD on only last night, but I don't spend hours on it.
> > Usually about three hours every ohter day on average.  I don't get a
> > total crash but sometimes things like the 16 buttons on the bottom
> > dont work.
> > Once I tried to go to mute mode and it wouldn't.  But I could trigger
> > the sounds with the buttons.  The mute lights didn't go on.  Other
> > times I couldn't change between patterns.  I'd press the bank letter
> > and the bank lights wouldn't light and it couldn't change to another
> > bank.  So it seems to be with the bank letters and the 16 lights some
> > kind of system miscommunication.
> > Maybe it's a buffer thing.  It has happened after alot of live
> > programming and alot of action on the MD as of sequencing.  This is
> > while using all types of machines from the drums to inputs to midi
> > machines.  Really pushing the limits.
> > I have not installed the b version.  By the way, I went to the
> > elektron site and didn't see the b version there last night.
> >
> >
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Janne G:son Berg"
> > <d3berg@d...> wrote:
> > > On Thu May 08 2003, Simon  <Simonvolt@v...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Meanwhile, i'd like to know if  MD owners
> > > > are still experiencing crashes with
> > > > OS 1.12b. If so, how often and how
> > > > does it happen ? And  on start up,
> > > > do you  see the letter *F* in the left corner ?
> > >
> > > I am ashamed to say that I haven't switched on my MD since last Friday
> > > when it got upgraded to 1.12b, so I can't say anything about it.
> > >
> > > > I spent around 10-12 hours on mine and it has
> > > > crashed at least 15 times. That's not what i call
> > > > stable. Maybe there is a problem with the
> > > > hardware, who knows.
> > >
> > > Weirdness. In what way does it crash? Locks up totally? Some of the
> > > sounds gone silent?
> > >
> > > /Janne
> >
> >
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> Do that mod.... you really won't regret it =0)

Or sell it to me, I have been looking for a 777 a while :)

regards,
David

Elektron did get back to me, and quickly
when i emailed them the first time.
But we did not talk about this problem,
the OS  problem came later.

Now i'm verifying the PSU, i'm trying
different electrical set-up.
Elektron got back to me quickly
again and the PSU could well be
the problem. So far it hasnt
change a thing but  it seems
logic cause it does not look like an OS
issue nor a hardware one.

Going directly  to the power source
seems logic.

Sounds like a first MD song
;)


on 08/05/03 4:32 AM, privat_joy at privat_joy@... wrote:

I am sure you wrong !!!!!
MD is the machine and the sequencer is very usefull. I am sure that
elektron will fix this problem, but you say you didn't heard anything
from them. Did you try to call them? Over here in germany we have some
predial-numbers which make an fardistancecall not to a moneyproblem
anymore.
I think the Attack is also a great device, but the VSTI-Attack is all
i need, and it is much easier to create new sound on it, because it
has more knobs. But i love Synthmachines with there own sequencer, i
also have the Future Retro 777, MPC2000XL, Q, Evolver, X-Base09, Karma
and i use the Doepfer Schaltwerk together with the Voyager. I will
also buy the monomachine, just because of the sequencer-options.
SoftwareSeauencer are nice, but i can work bettter with Hardware.
....try to call elektron.
Stefan


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, simon leclerc <Simonvolt@v...>
wrote:
> I intended to use the MD live.
> I spend a lot more money  because
> i prefer hardware and they are *usually*
> more stable.
> The more i dive in to the MD adventure,
> the more Waldorf Attack, Ableton Live and
> a laptop look attractive.
> 
> I so wish i'm wrong on this one...
> 
> on 08/05/03 3:43 AM, endlessnessisticman at endlessnessisticman@y...
> wrote:
> 
> I have turned my MD on only last night, but I don't spend hours on it.
> Usually about three hours every ohter day on average.  I don't get a
> total crash but sometimes things like the 16 buttons on the bottom
> dont work.  
> Once I tried to go to mute mode and it wouldn't.  But I could trigger
> the sounds with the buttons.  The mute lights didn't go on.  Other
> times I couldn't change between patterns.  I'd press the bank letter
> and the bank lights wouldn't light and it couldn't change to another
> bank.  So it seems to be with the bank letters and the 16 lights some
> kind of system miscommunication.
> Maybe it's a buffer thing.  It has happened after alot of live
> programming and alot of action on the MD as of sequencing.  This is
> while using all types of machines from the drums to inputs to midi
> machines.  Really pushing the limits.
> I have not installed the b version.  By the way, I went to the
> elektron site and didn't see the b version there last night.
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Janne G:son Berg"
> <d3berg@d...> wrote:
> > On Thu May 08 2003, Simon  <Simonvolt@v...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Meanwhile, i'd like to know if  MD owners
> > > are still experiencing crashes with
> > > OS 1.12b. If so, how often and how
> > > does it happen ? And  on start up,
> > > do you  see the letter *F* in the left corner ?
> > 
> > I am ashamed to say that I haven't switched on my MD since last Friday
> > when it got upgraded to 1.12b, so I can't say anything about it.
> > 
> > > I spent around 10-12 hours on mine and it has
> > > crashed at least 15 times. That's not what i call
> > > stable. Maybe there is a problem with the
> > > hardware, who knows.
> > 
> > Weirdness. In what way does it crash? Locks up totally? Some of the
> > sounds gone silent?
> > 
> > /Janne
> 
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I think Evolver is wonderfull  for drones.
BAss is very good. Not the fatest,  but tight
and analog fat (+ digital flavor if you want).
Great quality/price buy,  for sure.

I'm sure the Pulse is great too but  i've never played
with one.  The modulation capabilties on Evolver
are probably greater than the Pulse.

I got the MD thinking it would make the best companion
for my Evolver. Between crashes ;)
i was able to reunite them and it sounded like they were
meant to be together :)

There is some  good mp3 here:

http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23

+ on Yahoo's Evolver forum. Files section.

Cheers



on 08/05/03 5:01 AM, Raj at rajah_patel@... wrote:

hi

I've had the MD for about 6 Months now never a crash and i leave it on for
around 3 hrs at a time.

One question has anyone ever seen a weird picture come up on the boot up
screen on 1.12b...i saw it once but i only glanced at it...it doesn't seem
to come on everytime.

2nd Question whats the evolver like for Bass and drones? I was thinking
about getting a pulse but the Evolver looks very attractive.

Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "privat_joy" <privat_joy@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [elektron] OS 1.12b crashes or not ?


> I am sure you wrong !!!!!
> MD is the machine and the sequencer is very usefull. I am sure that
> elektron will fix this problem, but you say you didn't heard anything
> from them. Did you try to call them? Over here in germany we have some
> predial-numbers which make an fardistancecall not to a moneyproblem
> anymore.
> I think the Attack is also a great device, but the VSTI-Attack is all
> i need, and it is much easier to create new sound on it, because it
> has more knobs. But i love Synthmachines with there own sequencer, i
> also have the Future Retro 777, MPC2000XL, Q, Evolver, X-Base09, Karma
> and i use the Doepfer Schaltwerk together with the Voyager. I will
> also buy the monomachine, just because of the sequencer-options.
> SoftwareSeauencer are nice, but i can work bettter with Hardware.
> ....try to call elektron.
> Stefan
>
>
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, simon leclerc <Simonvolt@v...>
> wrote:
> > I intended to use the MD live.
> > I spend a lot more money  because
> > i prefer hardware and they are *usually*
> > more stable.
> > The more i dive in to the MD adventure,
> > the more Waldorf Attack, Ableton Live and
> > a laptop look attractive.
> >
> > I so wish i'm wrong on this one...
> >
> > on 08/05/03 3:43 AM, endlessnessisticman at endlessnessisticman@y...
> > wrote:
> >
> > I have turned my MD on only last night, but I don't spend hours on it.
> > Usually about three hours every ohter day on average.  I don't get a
> > total crash but sometimes things like the 16 buttons on the bottom
> > dont work.
> > Once I tried to go to mute mode and it wouldn't.  But I could trigger
> > the sounds with the buttons.  The mute lights didn't go on.  Other
> > times I couldn't change between patterns.  I'd press the bank letter
> > and the bank lights wouldn't light and it couldn't change to another
> > bank.  So it seems to be with the bank letters and the 16 lights some
> > kind of system miscommunication.
> > Maybe it's a buffer thing.  It has happened after alot of live
> > programming and alot of action on the MD as of sequencing.  This is
> > while using all types of machines from the drums to inputs to midi
> > machines.  Really pushing the limits.
> > I have not installed the b version.  By the way, I went to the
> > elektron site and didn't see the b version there last night.
> >
> >
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Janne G:son Berg"
> > <d3berg@d...> wrote:
> > > On Thu May 08 2003, Simon  <Simonvolt@v...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Meanwhile, i'd like to know if  MD owners
> > > > are still experiencing crashes with
> > > > OS 1.12b. If so, how often and how
> > > > does it happen ? And  on start up,
> > > > do you  see the letter *F* in the left corner ?
> > >
> > > I am ashamed to say that I haven't switched on my MD since last Friday
> > > when it got upgraded to 1.12b, so I can't say anything about it.
> > >
> > > > I spent around 10-12 hours on mine and it has
> > > > crashed at least 15 times. That's not what i call
> > > > stable. Maybe there is a problem with the
> > > > hardware, who knows.
> > >
> > > Weirdness. In what way does it crash? Locks up totally? Some of the
> > > sounds gone silent?
> > >
> > > /Janne
> >
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Yes! I use the deadly duo as well (MD + Evolver) and all I can say is  
that they were meant for each other :) Fat boomy bass, ear squelching  
hi's... its got it all.

-Chris

On Thursday, May 8, 2003, at 06:33  AM, simon leclerc wrote:

> I think Evolver is wonderfull  for drones.
> BAss is very good. Not the fatest,  but tight
> and analog fat (+ digital flavor if you want).
> Great quality/price buy,  for sure.
>
> I'm sure the Pulse is great too but  i've never played
> with one.  The modulation capabilties on Evolver
> are probably greater than the Pulse.
>
> I got the MD thinking it would make the best companion
> for my Evolver. Between crashes ;)
> i was able to reunite them and it sounded like they were
> meant to be together :)
>
> There is some  good mp3 here:
>
> http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23
>
> + on Yahoo's Evolver forum. Files section.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> on 08/05/03 5:01 AM, Raj at rajah_patel@... wrote:
>
> hi
>
> I've had the MD for about 6 Months now never a crash and i leave it on  
> for
> around 3 hrs at a time.
>
> One question has anyone ever seen a weird picture come up on the boot  
> up
> screen on 1.12b...i saw it once but i only glanced at it...it doesn't  
> seem
> to come on everytime.
>
> 2nd Question whats the evolver like for Bass and drones? I was thinking
> about getting a pulse but the Evolver looks very attractive.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "privat_joy" <privat_joy@...>
> To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 9:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [elektron] OS 1.12b crashes or not ?
>
>
>> I am sure you wrong !!!!!
>> MD is the machine and the sequencer is very usefull. I am sure that
>> elektron will fix this problem, but you say you didn't heard anything
>> from them. Did you try to call them? Over here in germany we have some
>> predial-numbers which make an fardistancecall not to a moneyproblem
>> anymore.
>> I think the Attack is also a great device, but the VSTI-Attack is all
>> i need, and it is much easier to create new sound on it, because it
>> has more knobs. But i love Synthmachines with there own sequencer, i
>> also have the Future Retro 777, MPC2000XL, Q, Evolver, X-Base09, Karma
>> and i use the Doepfer Schaltwerk together with the Voyager. I will
>> also buy the monomachine, just because of the sequencer-options.
>> SoftwareSeauencer are nice, but i can work bettter with Hardware.
>> ....try to call elektron.
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, simon leclerc <Simonvolt@v...>
>> wrote:
>>> I intended to use the MD live.
>>> I spend a lot more money  because
>>> i prefer hardware and they are *usually*
>>> more stable.
>>> The more i dive in to the MD adventure,
>>> the more Waldorf Attack, Ableton Live and
>>> a laptop look attractive.
>>>
>>> I so wish i'm wrong on this one...
>>>
>>> on 08/05/03 3:43 AM, endlessnessisticman at endlessnessisticman@y...
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have turned my MD on only last night, but I don't spend hours on  
>>> it.
>>> Usually about three hours every ohter day on average.  I don't get a
>>> total crash but sometimes things like the 16 buttons on the bottom
>>> dont work.
>>> Once I tried to go to mute mode and it wouldn't.  But I could trigger
>>> the sounds with the buttons.  The mute lights didn't go on.  Other
>>> times I couldn't change between patterns.  I'd press the bank letter
>>> and the bank lights wouldn't light and it couldn't change to another
>>> bank.  So it seems to be with the bank letters and the 16 lights some
>>> kind of system miscommunication.
>>> Maybe it's a buffer thing.  It has happened after alot of live
>>> programming and alot of action on the MD as of sequencing.  This is
>>> while using all types of machines from the drums to inputs to midi
>>> machines.  Really pushing the limits.
>>> I have not installed the b version.  By the way, I went to the
>>> elektron site and didn't see the b version there last night.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Janne G:son Berg"
>>> <d3berg@d...> wrote:
>>>> On Thu May 08 2003, Simon  <Simonvolt@v...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile, i'd like to know if  MD owners
>>>>> are still experiencing crashes with
>>>>> OS 1.12b. If so, how often and how
>>>>> does it happen ? And  on start up,
>>>>> do you  see the letter *F* in the left corner ?
>>>>
>>>> I am ashamed to say that I haven't switched on my MD since last  
>>>> Friday
>>>> when it got upgraded to 1.12b, so I can't say anything about it.
>>>>
>>>>> I spent around 10-12 hours on mine and it has
>>>>> crashed at least 15 times. That's not what i call
>>>>> stable. Maybe there is a problem with the
>>>>> hardware, who knows.
>>>>
>>>> Weirdness. In what way does it crash? Locks up totally? Some of the
>>>> sounds gone silent?
>>>>
>>>> /Janne
>>>
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I agree 100 %. these two beasts (MD + Evolver) were
made to mate ;)

it's even more fun now that I've figured out a trick
to change the melody played by Evolver's sequencer in
real-time :O

that said, I am going to get a Pulse as well. reason:
the Evolver excels at so many things that I rarely end
up using it for bass, so I want another monosynth to
cover the basses ;)

Pulse does have a pretty extensive mod matrix as well,
and it has a  randomize function, so it should be
useful for other applications as well ;)

the verdict? when in doubt, get both! ;)

cheers,
kevin

>> Chris Thomas <crap@...> wrote: 
---------------------------------
>> Yes! I use the deadly duo as well (MD + Evolver) 
>> and all I can say is  
>> that they were meant for each other :) Fat boomy 
>> bass, ear squelching  
>> hi's... its got it all.




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On Thu, 8 May 2003, Janne G:son Berg wrote:

> On Thu May 08 2003, Simon  <Simonvolt@...> wrote:
>
> > Meanwhile, i'd like to know if  MD owners
> > are still experiencing crashes with
> > OS 1.12b. If so, how often and how
> > does it happen ? And  on start up,
> > do you  see the letter *F* in the left corner ?

My MD says "D" in the left corner when I power up, and I've never seen a
single crash with 1.12b. I'm pretty sure this is a result of continuing
problems with the newly produced MDs.

-Brandon

Personally, I will probably end up buying another Evolver :)
I often find myself wanting to use two patches on the same track... so  
I end up recording each seperately etc..
And remember, POLYCHAIN! w00t.

-Chris

On Thursday, May 8, 2003, at 01:56  PM, not known wrote:

>
> I agree 100 %. these two beasts (MD + Evolver) were
> made to mate ;)
>
> it's even more fun now that I've figured out a trick
> to change the melody played by Evolver's sequencer in
> real-time :O
>
> that said, I am going to get a Pulse as well. reason:
> the Evolver excels at so many things that I rarely end
> up using it for bass, so I want another monosynth to
> cover the basses ;)
>
> Pulse does have a pretty extensive mod matrix as well,
> and it has a  randomize function, so it should be
> useful for other applications as well ;)
>
> the verdict? when in doubt, get both! ;)
>
> cheers,
> kevin
>
>>> Chris Thomas <crap@...> wrote:
> ---------------------------------
>>> Yes! I use the deadly duo as well (MD + Evolver)
>>> and all I can say is
>>> that they were meant for each other :) Fat boomy
>>> bass, ear squelching
>>> hi's... its got it all.
>
>
>
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On Thu, 8 May 2003, amos luyk wrote:

> I think I will have to go change my shirt..... I have drool all down the
> front of mine..... =0) You own most of my wishlist and all of my fave gear.
> By the way, the FR777 is going out of production, so anyone interested in
> owning the greatest box of acid ever builot should hurry... I'm saving for a
> second one =0)

!!!! I hadn't heard this, where did you get this info?

I guess I'd better buy one then, since I do desire it...

-Brandon
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Simon,

I have not been paying much attention through this so perhaps I've 
missed some critical information.  And I am too lazy to go back and 
read through the archives.

I've had my MD since they first became available in the US, serial 
number in the low 2 digits.  I have never had a "crash" and perhaps 
we should define exactly what that is on your machine.  Total 
freeze?  Non-responsive to buttons, knobs?  Lights go out?  How do 
you get around the crash, do you turn off the power switch or what?

Where are you located?  Perhaps it would be helpful if someone with a 
functional MD could meet up with you and then you could step through 
the exact same steps on each machine and see what the differences 
are.  You could also trade power supplies to see if that is the 
issue.  I trust during the crashes you have no external devices 
connected to audio in or midi ports?

I am in the SF Bay Area in CA if that is anywhere near you and I 
would be glad to try to help.


PS - notice some folks added gear lists to this thread.  I am an old 
fart and have been at this since about 1968 and never sold anything I 
bought, so partial current gear includes 2 Synthi AKS, VCS3 Putney, 
ARP 2600, Minimoog, Andromeda A6, K5000S, MS2000R, CR-78, Sunsyn, X-
base 09, FS1R, SuperNova II, Virus C, Evolver (love it!), Ob-Xa, EML 
101, 200 & 300, MS20, MS50, & SQ 10, OB-12, DX-7, micro-modular, FR-
777, Mobius, MKS-30, MC-202, X-3, ER1, ES1, EA1, Sherman Filterbank, 
Kawai X5D, RM1X, and a ton of processing and recording gear.  I also 
have a large hybrid analogue modular setup with Doepfer, ASys, ASol, 
& Blacet -about 160 modules total. It is a horrid addiction and kind 
of stupid since I really only use 3 or 4 devices at a time. And I 
live about 5 miles from the San Andreas fault line.  I made more 
music back when I was young and poor and only had an AKS, a minimoog, 
and a 4 track tape machine with one crummy echo and reverb.  More 
gear = less music.  These days I seem to spend more time tinkering 
and making sounds than trying to compose a complete song.

I *really* like the MD and plan on getting the monomachine just 
because I like the mentality of the guys behind the elektron designs.

Gear breaks all the time.  I try to stay calm and work through the 
solutions slowly.  "Life is short and Art is long"


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, simon leclerc <Simonvolt@v...> 
wrote:

> I intended to use the MD live.
> I spend a lot more money  because
> i prefer hardware and they are *usually*
> more stable.
> The more i dive in to the MD adventure,
> the more Waldorf Attack, Ableton Live and
> a laptop look attractive.
> 
> I so wish i'm wrong on this one...
>

On Thu May 08 2003, Brandon Daniel <bdu@...> wrote:

> !!!! I hadn't heard this, where did you get this info?

www.future-retro.com

> I guess I'd better buy one then, since I do desire it...

Yep, go go go! Or save your money for the Monomachine... :)

/Janne

Hi Brandon,

just saw it on their website. apparently they are making 700 total (why not 
777 I have to ask=-) and once they have sold out they are gone for good (saw 
on another list that someone thought they had number 650, so I guess its 
dead soon.
On the positive side (and just a tad more on topic) rumour has it that they 
are going to be making an analogue drum machine....

thinking happy thoughts

amos

>From: Brandon Daniel <bdu@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [elektron] OS 1.12b crashes or not ?
>Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 11:10:16 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Thu, 8 May 2003, amos luyk wrote:
>
> > I think I will have to go change my shirt..... I have drool all down the
> > front of mine..... =0) You own most of my wishlist and all of my fave 
>gear.
> > By the way, the FR777 is going out of production, so anyone interested 
>in
> > owning the greatest box of acid ever builot should hurry... I'm saving 
>for a
> > second one =0)
>
>!!!! I hadn't heard this, where did you get this info?
>
>I guess I'd better buy one then, since I do desire it...
>
>-Brandon
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Yes, i feel the same way. sometimes i want
to use the inputs but then i can't play another program.
I'm waiting to see if DAve will come up
with a new product first.

on 08/05/03 2:09 PM, Chris Thomas at crap@... wrote:

Personally, I will probably end up buying another Evolver :)
I often find myself wanting to use two patches on the same track... so
I end up recording each seperately etc..
And remember, POLYCHAIN! w00t.

-Chris

On Thursday, May 8, 2003, at 01:56  PM, not known wrote:

>
> I agree 100 %. these two beasts (MD + Evolver) were
> made to mate ;)
>
> it's even more fun now that I've figured out a trick
> to change the melody played by Evolver's sequencer in
> real-time :O
>
> that said, I am going to get a Pulse as well. reason:
> the Evolver excels at so many things that I rarely end
> up using it for bass, so I want another monosynth to
> cover the basses ;)
>
> Pulse does have a pretty extensive mod matrix as well,
> and it has a  randomize function, so it should be
> useful for other applications as well ;)
>
> the verdict? when in doubt, get both! ;)
>
> cheers,
> kevin
>
>>> Chris Thomas <crap@...> wrote:
> ---------------------------------
>>> Yes! I use the deadly duo as well (MD + Evolver)
>>> and all I can say is
>>> that they were meant for each other :) Fat boomy
>>> bass, ear squelching
>>> hi's... its got it all.
>
>
>
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On Thu, 8 May 2003, amos luyk wrote:

> Hi Brandon,
>
> just saw it on their website. apparently they are making 700 total (why not
> 777 I have to ask=-) and once they have sold out they are gone for good (saw
> on another list that someone thought they had number 650, so I guess its
> dead soon.

Gotcha. Well, I just emailed sales@... about buying one, so
we'll see how it goes. I really shouldn't right now, but I don't want to
miss 'em completely.

> On the positive side (and just a tad more on topic) rumour has it that they
> are going to be making an analogue drum machine....

That rumor's been going around for awhile, at least three years. If it's
true that's cool, but it would have to be one slam-dunk of a drum machine
to get me to buy, I've got the analog/analog modelling drum stuff MORE than
covered already.

-Brandon
___________________________________

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Hi Synchro1,

Thanks you for  the offer, really nice.
However i'm very far from you, i'm in
Montreal.

But it seems like there could be an electrical
problem in my set-up. It has happened to me
once. that could very well be it. Also, we loose
power very often in my buliding, maybe there
is a  slight variation in the power force that the MD can't
take. OR the MD is the one too many unit in
my electrical set-up.

After connecting the MD in a second power source
it continued to crash. BUT, this morning i took
it to my bedroom with just headphones and it
DID NOT crash for 30 minutes :):):)

I just have to figure out what is the problem
in my  set-up, i think it'S time for
an complete overall verification of all things connected.

Thanks for your help guys,

Simon




on 08/05/03 3:06 PM, synchro1 at synchro1@... wrote:

Simon,

I have not been paying much attention through this so perhaps I've
missed some critical information.  And I am too lazy to go back and
read through the archives.

I've had my MD since they first became available in the US, serial
number in the low 2 digits.  I have never had a "crash" and perhaps
we should define exactly what that is on your machine.  Total
freeze?  Non-responsive to buttons, knobs?  Lights go out?  How do
you get around the crash, do you turn off the power switch or what?

Where are you located?  Perhaps it would be helpful if someone with a
functional MD could meet up with you and then you could step through
the exact same steps on each machine and see what the differences
are.  You could also trade power supplies to see if that is the
issue.  I trust during the crashes you have no external devices
connected to audio in or midi ports?

I am in the SF Bay Area in CA if that is anywhere near you and I
would be glad to try to help.


PS - notice some folks added gear lists to this thread.  I am an old
fart and have been at this since about 1968 and never sold anything I
bought, so partial current gear includes 2 Synthi AKS, VCS3 Putney,
ARP 2600, Minimoog, Andromeda A6, K5000S, MS2000R, CR-78, Sunsyn, X-
base 09, FS1R, SuperNova II, Virus C, Evolver (love it!), Ob-Xa, EML
101, 200 & 300, MS20, MS50, & SQ 10, OB-12, DX-7, micro-modular, FR-
777, Mobius, MKS-30, MC-202, X-3, ER1, ES1, EA1, Sherman Filterbank,
Kawai X5D, RM1X, and a ton of processing and recording gear.  I also
have a large hybrid analogue modular setup with Doepfer, ASys, ASol,
& Blacet -about 160 modules total. It is a horrid addiction and kind
of stupid since I really only use 3 or 4 devices at a time. And I
live about 5 miles from the San Andreas fault line.  I made more
music back when I was young and poor and only had an AKS, a minimoog,
and a 4 track tape machine with one crummy echo and reverb.  More
gear = less music.  These days I seem to spend more time tinkering
and making sounds than trying to compose a complete song.

I *really* like the MD and plan on getting the monomachine just
because I like the mentality of the guys behind the elektron designs.

Gear breaks all the time.  I try to stay calm and work through the
solutions slowly.  "Life is short and Art is long"


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, simon leclerc <Simonvolt@v...>
wrote:
> I intended to use the MD live.
> I spend a lot more money  because
> i prefer hardware and they are *usually*
> more stable.
> The more i dive in to the MD adventure,
> the more Waldorf Attack, Ableton Live and
> a laptop look attractive.
> 
> I so wish i'm wrong on this one...
> 



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On Thu May 08 2003, endlessnessisticman <endlessnessisticman@...> wrote:

> I have not installed the b version.  By the way, I went to the
> elektron site and didn't see the b version there last night.

The 1.12b is available from the website now. Have a look at:

http://www.machinedrum.com/mdsupport.php

Concering what serial numbers of the MD that suffered from the noisy
separate outputs, it was 1-266, especially when using OS version 1.11
or less. 

See http://www.elektron.se/announce.php?sStatus=readAnnouncement&sID=020327-mdquality for more info.

/Janne

On Thu, 8 May 2003, Janne G:son Berg wrote:

> On Thu May 08 2003, endlessnessisticman <endlessnessisticman@...> wrote:
> Concering what serial numbers of the MD that suffered from the noisy
> separate outputs, it was 1-266, especially when using OS version 1.11
> or less.

What part of the number on the back of the MD is the serial? Is it just
the part after the dash or???

-Brandon
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On Thu May 08 2003, Brandon Daniel <bdu@...> wrote:

> What part of the number on the back of the MD is the serial? Is it just
> the part after the dash or???

Dunno. It could also be the part before.  A10600084-45 is on the
sticker of mine. Either 45 or 84 should be the serial number.

/Janne

> Dunno. It could also be the part before.  A10600084-45 is on the
> sticker of mine. Either 45 or 84 should be the serial number.

Mine ends in 129-45, so 129 should be the one.

hi

I think a while back i emailed Elektron about this

So my serial is G20800 [614]

-45 seems to be at the end of all of them



----- Original Message -----

From: "Federico Ciapi" <federico.ciapi@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] OS 1.12b crashes or not ?


> > Dunno. It could also be the part before.  A10600084-45 is on the
> > sticker of mine. Either 45 or 84 should be the serial number.
>
> Mine ends in 129-45, so 129 should be the one.
>
>
>
>
>
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yeah so much cool stuff is coming out right now

I'm keeping cash for the Monomachine and Electribe MX


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Daniel" <bdu@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] OS 1.12b crashes or not ?


> On Thu, 8 May 2003, amos luyk wrote:
>
> > Hi Brandon,
> >
> > just saw it on their website. apparently they are making 700 total (why
not
> > 777 I have to ask=-) and once they have sold out they are gone for good
(saw
> > on another list that someone thought they had number 650, so I guess its
> > dead soon.
>
> Gotcha. Well, I just emailed sales@... about buying one, so
> we'll see how it goes. I really shouldn't right now, but I don't want to
> miss 'em completely.
>
> > On the positive side (and just a tad more on topic) rumour has it that
they
> > are going to be making an analogue drum machine....
>
> That rumor's been going around for awhile, at least three years. If it's
> true that's cool, but it would have to be one slam-dunk of a drum machine
> to get me to buy, I've got the analog/analog modelling drum stuff MORE
than

> covered already.
>
> -Brandon
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Hi Simon,


>maybe there
>is a  slight variation in the power force that the MD can't
>take. OR the MD is the one too many unit in
>my electrical set-up.

The MD can react badly to sudden power loss under certain circumstances 
leading it to lock up completely (possibly with random stuff happening with 
the LEDs - I forget exactly). A problem with my power cord caused this a 
couple of times, needing me to do a soft reset to  sort it out. Elektron are 
aware of this and don't seem to look at it as a bug (fair enough really). 
You could get a UPS (battery thingy for the uninitiated =0)) if you cant 
sort out your power problems.
Hope this helps

thinking happy thoughts
Amos

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I have been having the same problem! 

most frustrating, it is intermittent, and quite unpredictable in frequency - 
sometimes it will work flawlessly for several hours, at other times it may only be a few 
minutes between crashes. most often, the machine appears to reset - as though the 
power was briefly interrupted - at other times it may lock up, paying no attention to 
any input. self diagnostics are OK and I suspect from the symptoms that it does have 
to do with the power supply. I noticed that MD uses an AC transformer, rather than 
the usual DC - perhaps fluctuations in line voltage are causing damage & errors! If so, 
this is a serious problem, as the quality of line voltage varies enormously at 
different venues, and I don't have the budget for a serious line conditioner.

I have just asked elektron about the issue...

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Simon " <Simonvolt@v...> wrote:

> After playing for two consecutive days
> with my MD, i'm  having a lot of
> problems with constant crashes.
> I'm still waiting for tech support about
> this issue.
> 
> Meanwhile, i'd like to know if  MD owners
> are still experiencing crashes with
> OS 1.12b. If so, how often and how 
> does it happen ? And  on start up,
> do you  see the letter *F* in the left corner ?
> 
> I spent around 10-12 hours on mine and it has
> crashed at least 15 times. That's not what i call
> stable. Maybe there is a problem with the
> hardware, who knows.
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> 
> Simon