Elektron Musical Instruments

It has SID, SuperWave, DigiPRO, FM+ VO!

On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 04:06:49AM -0000, lincolnjet wrote:
> It has SID, SuperWave, DigiPRO, FM+ VO!

mm...

so what's the selling price on this long slab of swedish synth anyway?

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Cool site.  No sounds or anything.  I see 1900 USD.  Still hope they 
have a module version.  Why would I need two 3 octive keyboards?  Oh 
yea, real cool power supply.  110 220 switch.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "lincolnjet" <lincolnlab@e...> 
wrote:
> It has SID, SuperWave, DigiPRO, FM+ VO!

> have a module version.  Why would I need two 3 octive keyboards?  Oh
> yea, real cool power supply.  110 220 switch.

I don't think they have a nonKB version because they concieved this thing as
a performance tool more than anything. Yummy joystick... I think they have
certainly come up with an UFO there... hope it is a nice one.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "lincolnjet" <lincolnlab@e...> wrote:
> It has SID, SuperWave, DigiPRO, FM+ VO!

Wow, looks awesome. I wonder how they're doing the SID stuff.  I'd want one for sure 
if they offered a rack version, though.

Do these are very nice pictures, some more informations about it (not
much) and 1950,- Euros.
Not much about the first 100 special, nothing about a release date (i
am on holiday the rest of this month).
Will i miss the first 100 batch during my holiday?
Stefan


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Stag Ejector" <meatlog@n...>
wrote:
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "lincolnjet"
<lincolnlab@e...> wrote:
> > It has SID, SuperWave, DigiPRO, FM+ VO!
> 
> Wow, looks awesome. I wonder how they're doing the SID stuff.  I'd
want one for sure 
> if they offered a rack version, though.

Stag Ejector wrote:

>--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "lincolnjet" <lincolnlab@e...> wrote:
>  
>
>>It has SID, SuperWave, DigiPRO, FM+ VO!
>>    
>>
>
>Wow, looks awesome. I wonder how they're doing the SID stuff.  I'd want one for sure 
>if they offered a rack version, though.
>  
>
Damn Swedes.

Time to sell a kidney I guess... :P

-Des

I doubt 100ppl can fork about 1900 euros on a product they know nothin
about... u should be pretty safe

> Will i miss the first 100 batch during my holiday?
> Stefan

Well, I'm absolutely certain you'll miss at least one of them.  ;-]

On Monday, September 8, 2003, at 06:11 AM, privat_joy wrote:

> Do these are very nice pictures, some more informations about it (not
> much) and 1950,- Euros.
> Not much about the first 100 special, nothing about a release date (i
> am on holiday the rest of this month).
> Will i miss the first 100 batch during my holiday?
> Stefan
>
>
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Stag Ejector" <meatlog@n...>
> wrote:
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "lincolnjet"
> <lincolnlab@e...> wrote:
> > > It has SID, SuperWave, DigiPRO, FM+ VO!
> >
> > Wow, looks awesome. I wonder how they're doing the SID stuff.  I'd
> want one for sure
> > if they offered a rack version, though.
>
>
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le 08/09/2003 09:41, M-.-n à nostromo@... a écrit :

> Yummy joystick...

see :D

> I think they have
> certainly come up with an UFO there...

it's a kind of elektron mania

>hope it is a nice one.

Aren't we all? ;)

As we have already an idea of the skill they have at physical modeling and
sample based stuff, I'm optimistic on the issue. UFOs make usually great
synths. And Elektron has a touch for "live" instruments so :)

Denis U] proud owner of a joystick ladden UFO: the Korg Sygma

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I want sounds!:) they are so doing this on purpose :) teasing us like crazy!

On 9/8/03 1:52 AM, "endlessnessisticman" <endlessnessisticman@...>
wrote:

>No sounds or anything.

Listened to the demos. They sound alright, but it's not much that I don't
already have covered by other gear. The vocal synthesizer has me drooling,
but not $1400 worth. I'm sure there will be plenty of people willing to
buy it though.

-Brandon
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Definitely sounds interesting.  I'm still making new sounds with the 
MD.  I expect these are teaser sounds like the MD sounds, which had me 
sold.  I don't know why people didn't like the MD sounds. 

Althouh I wouldn't buy one now for the fact that I can't afford it, 
I'm getting married next month.  I also expect some defects that come 
with any first generation models like the MD.

Someone said they'd be afraid to break the joystick.  I'm sure it is 
just screwed on.

Maybe when I sell my Indigo 2...

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Brandon Daniel <bdu@f...> 
wrote:
> 
> Listened to the demos. They sound alright, but it's not much that I 
don't
> already have covered by other gear. The vocal synthesizer has me 
drooling,
> but not $1400 worth. I'm sure there will be plenty of people willing 
to

> buy it though.
> 
> -Brandon
> ___________________________________________
> 
> The availability of a particular patchcord
> is inversely proportional to it's need.
> ___________________________________________

le 09/09/2003 08:12, endlessnessisticman à endlessnessisticman@... a
écrit :

> Someone said they'd be afraid to break the joystick.  I'm sure it is
> just screwed on.

As the owner of a synth with joystick I can tell you it IS a problem
(especially when there's no spare parts at all and the joystick control
parameters not available some other way)

ButŠ

the joystick used by Elektron is a "common" make from a big manufacturer
(seen it while browsing for this kind of gizmos last spring) so a replace
would be possible. If Elektron has a brain (and I think they have) they have
a stock for servicing (buying a joystick for private customers can beŠ well
IS a headache, manufacturers are more prone to sell to militaries, plane
manufacturers or high end pro video gear)

Also joysticks are now more standard than they were, usually the same pot
values and roughly the same sizes.

le 09/09/2003 10:06, privat_joy à privat_joy@... a écrit :

> First: i trust in elektron.

"In Mel we trust, we believe in Mel" Mel Brooks :D

> second: machine drum was and is one the best developments in the last
> years. i make use of it's sequencer a lot, also for external gear. So
> Monomachine will be a bit better in this.

sure

> The Sounds i get out of the MachineDrum-Machines are fantastic.

MD has its own sound, point.
(and a good one)

> Third: most of the other new gear is boring (uuuooaahhh another VA)

are you talking about the
I-put-2-obsolete-DSPs-with-a-tiny-RAM-and-ROM-that-cost-nothing-and-pour-loa
ds-of-great-sounds-made-by-pro-sound-designers-squashed-to-death-to-fit-in-s
osound-like-crap-and-sell-the-gizmo-for-the-price-of-a-rolls-then-repackage-
the-same-a-billionth-time-in-ever-crapy-boxes-to-save-onscale-on-the-chips-p
rice

Yes, boring.

> Four:
> a SID, a MACHINEDRUM and a MONOMACHINE belong together.

addicted

le 09/09/2003 10:12, M-.-n à nostromo@... a écrit :

>> Third: most of the other new gear is boring (uuuooaahhh another VA)
> mmm.. the nord mod G2 for roughly the same price... don't know if that is
> ne-thing like boring !!!

I think he was talking about some bigger companies than the red addicted one
;)

Denis U]

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>
Congratulations!

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so... kill my ingnorance.... wassa' "ufo" ?

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Subject: Re: [elektron] Re: MONOMACHINE SITE UPDATED!
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 09:41:20 +0200


 > have a module version.  Why would I need two 3 octive keyboards?  Oh
 > yea, real cool power supply.  110 220 switch.

I don't think they have a nonKB version because they concieved this thing as
a performance tool more than anything. Yummy joystick... I think they have
certainly come up with an UFO there... hope it is a nice one.

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le 09/09/2003 17:40, Behn Humphrey à be4n_anikean@... a écrit :

> so... kill my ingnorance.... wassa' "ufo" ?

Unidentified Flying Object ;)

In French OVNI : Objet Volant Non Identifié

Some synths are definetly UFOs, Elektron seems to collect them in a discreet
way.

Denis U]

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Wow, you cant even buy it. They will give it to the producers and
other peeps that kiss their grits first. 
I have to ask, what makes it so special? I mean, any special routings,
what? Why would i want this rather than a nord lead 3 or alesis ion?

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Brandon Daniel <bdu@f...> wrote:
> 
> Listened to the demos. They sound alright, but it's not much that I
don't
> already have covered by other gear. The vocal synthesizer has me
drooling,

> but not $1400 worth. I'm sure there will be plenty of people willing to
> buy it though.
> 
> -Brandon
> ___________________________________________
> 
> The availability of a particular patchcord
> is inversely proportional to it's need.
> ___________________________________________

> Wow, you cant even buy it. They will give it to the producers and
> other peeps that kiss their grits first.

Not correct.
They will give it to Elektron Friends (= anyone who is subscribed to 
the "friends" mailing list) at reduced price because the Mono 
development is not complete and needs some beta testing.

> I have to ask, what makes it so special? I mean, any special routings,
> what? Why would i want this rather than a nord lead 3 or alesis ion?

Has NL3 got a sequencer? No.
Have you ever played with a Machinedrum? Do you know how well designed 
is its UI?

If you had a MD, than thinking of the Mono as a key-sister would make 
it clear.

> > I have to ask, what makes it so special? I mean, any 
> special routings, 
> > what? Why would i want this rather than a nord lead 3 or alesis ion?

The Ion rocks, the NL3 doesn't exactly, but the G2 will!
But this is nothing like either one.

It's very desirable as a sequencer.

-m@

Aren't we supposed to be seeing the Ion Rack announcement any day now?

I spent a good six hours on an Ion a week or so ago and was just 
astounded.  I'm glad I brought my MD, I'd have been bummed to not at 
least sample some of the sounds I got it to scream out.

The interface almost feels like cheating, and nothing's sounded 
anywhere near as smooth -- it doesn't feel like VA at all... smooth 
glides on every param.   No more 127 steps... 8 voices is slim, but not 
when you think of it in the context of analog beasts.


On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, at 07:46 AM, Matt Picone wrote:

> > > I have to ask, what makes it so special? I mean, any
> > special routings,
> > > what? Why would i want this rather than a nord lead 3 or alesis 
> ion?
>
> The Ion rocks, the NL3 doesn't exactly, but the G2 will!
> But this is nothing like either one.
>
> It's very desirable as a sequencer.
>
> -m@
>
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MD as in minidisc recorder, not as in machinedrum...  ;-]

Ohhhh man, a machinedrum with sample memory.  *twitch*

On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, at 08:58 AM, Damon Menne wrote:

> Aren't we supposed to be seeing the Ion Rack announcement any day now?
>
> I spent a good six hours on an Ion a week or so ago and was just
> astounded.  I'm glad I brought my MD, I'd have been bummed to not at
> least sample some of the sounds I got it to scream out.
>
> The interface almost feels like cheating, and nothing's sounded
> anywhere near as smooth -- it doesn't feel like VA at all... smooth
> glides on every param.   No more 127 steps... 8 voices is slim, but not
> when you think of it in the context of analog beasts.
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, at 07:46 AM, Matt Picone wrote:
>
> > > > I have to ask, what makes it so special? I mean, any
> > > special routings,
> > > > what? Why would i want this rather than a nord lead 3 or alesis
> > ion?
> >
> > The Ion rocks, the NL3 doesn't exactly, but the G2 will!
> > But this is nothing like either one.
> >
> > It's very desirable as a sequencer.
> >
> > -m@
> >
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> Aren't we supposed to be seeing the Ion Rack announcement any day now?

Yes. And that's what I'll buy.

-m@

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "linuxmanvan" 
<linuxmanvan@y...> wrote:
> what? Why would i want this rather than a nord lead 3 or alesis ion?

This is not just a VA, like the MD is not just a drummachine.
If your just looking for sounds this one may not be that special. 
(well...., it offers different synth techniques....) 

But if you're looking for new way's to create music it can give 
something extra.
Like the TB303, there are a lot of clones wich sound almost alike but 
there is nothing wich gives the same feel like the original because 
it's the seq/sound combination wich makes it unique.
Elektron did it with the MD (create a unique instrument) and will do 
it again with this one (i hope)
Every owner of a MD will confirm it's power.(except the ones who 
didn't explore it's capabilities and were looking for another 808/909 
replacement)

Grtz. Ronald.

I remember some of comments on the boards and in the
trade rags when the MD first came out.  The majority
fell into 2 categories, often inter-mixed - "Not
another drum machine...!" and "What?  It\ufffds hardware
?!";  at the time the trend was definitely towards SW.

The unique approach of the MD to *creating* music
validated Elektron's entry into what everyone thought
was an over-saturated market.  Everyone that touched
the MD fell in love with it - reviewers and musicians.

I think the same is going to be true of the MM.  "Who
needs another VA...!"  "With a keyboard and in
hardware ?!"  For the answers see above and wait a few
months for the praise to roll in.  

You have to look at the MM the way Elektron does, as a
whole.  

My bet is that the coupling of the MM\ufffds 6 synthesis
machines with Elektron\ufffds synergizing of inputting that
sound to brilliant and intuitive sound modeling /
sequencing workflow is going to produce a burst of
accolade every bit as strong as what met the MD.  Then
add feeding non-MM sounds into this beast.

How unique will the synthesis machines be compared to
what is currently on the market?  It\ufffds really too
early to tell.  But given the editing capabilities of
the MD and considering that one of the MM machines is
a SID emulation I\ufffdm sure Elektron won\ufffdt let us down on
that point.  (I do hope they do a better job on
releasing samples than they did with the initial MD
release.  I always thought the sounds on the site were
somewhat lame compared to what can really be done with
the MD.  Maybe those first lucky 100 MM owners can
help them out!)

It is true that there are a LOT of VA\ufffds on the market.
 The non-memorable ones do tend to regurgitate
popularized sound.  But I welcome new additions. 
Because the best of them always contribute something
unique and the ones that do are from vendors that
allow you not just to reproduce sound but sculpt it. 
Everything about the MM seems to scream \ufffdRodin In A
Box\ufffd!

Eric

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I know, this is OT, but I have to sell it as soon as possible!

Mint Waldorf microQ rack for sale - yellow, like new.

€450

mail me if interested

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Thanks guys.  Yea, maybe something like gear will be bought.  She
want's a mac I want something...

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "lecz2003"
<alex.vanbokhoven@w...> wrote:
> Congratulations!  I know a nice present ! M*N*M*CI*N*   ??