Elektron Musical Instruments

Hello,

Are there some guys here with experience in making dnb on the MD and what is
your opinion ?
is it suitable for dnb ?
maybe some links to dnb songs made with the MD ?

thanks and regards, Peter.

It has all the sounds for DnB so now it is all up to
the person sequencing it to make the dnb beats. This
machine will blow your mind, it does mine everytime I
mess with it. :)

-Auto


--- peter gremme <pgremme@...> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Are there some guys here with experience in making
> dnb on the MD and what is
> your opinion ?
> is it suitable for dnb ?
> maybe some links to dnb songs made with the MD ?
> 
> thanks and regards, Peter.
> 
> 


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thanks, but i read a posting some time ago, saying that the MD is only
suitable for techno, hiphop and electro, that's why i'm asking.
Who ever make a "Andy C RAM-RECORDS SNARE" on this thing ?
i know it is also a hihat but the hihat is merged in the snare and that
makes the sound massive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

peter

----- Original Message -----

From: "Automatic Panic" <thesoundzoneinfo@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] MD suitable for Drum and Bass ?


> It has all the sounds for DnB so now it is all up to
> the person sequencing it to make the dnb beats. This
> machine will blow your mind, it does mine everytime I
> mess with it. :)
>
> -Auto
>
>
> --- peter gremme <pgremme@...> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Are there some guys here with experience in making
> > dnb on the MD and what is
> > your opinion ?
> > is it suitable for dnb ?
> > maybe some links to dnb songs made with the MD ?
> >
> > thanks and regards, Peter.
> >
> >
>
>
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You can combine a hihat with a snare hit on the MD.
There are alot of different sounds that can be made
from this machine. It is very good for techno electro
house and hip hop but if you think about it, dnb uses
the same sounds from alot of these genres. Alot of dnb
artist use samples so I'm sure that they are using
some made with the MD. :)


--- peter gremme <pgremme@...> wrote:
> thanks, but i read a posting some time ago, saying
> that the MD is only
> suitable for techno, hiphop and electro, that's why
> i'm asking.
> Who ever make a "Andy C RAM-RECORDS SNARE" on this
> thing ?
> i know it is also a hihat but the hihat is merged in
> the snare and that
> makes the sound massive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> peter
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Automatic Panic" <thesoundzoneinfo@...>
> To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 7:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [elektron] MD suitable for Drum and
> Bass ?
> 
> 
> > It has all the sounds for DnB so now it is all up
> to
> > the person sequencing it to make the dnb beats.
> This
> > machine will blow your mind, it does mine
> everytime I
> > mess with it. :)
> >
> > -Auto
> >
> >
> > --- peter gremme <pgremme@...> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Are there some guys here with experience in
> making
> > > dnb on the MD and what is
> > > your opinion ?
> > > is it suitable for dnb ?
> > > maybe some links to dnb songs made with the MD ?
> > >
> > > thanks and regards, Peter.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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ok, but can you make them sound like it's one sound ?
and you're right about the styles that are used in dnb,
does someone here seen a MD in a dnb-producer's setup ? maybe in the
knowledge ?
those ram-guys make massive beats, but do they make them only with samples
from old records or
do they also use MD, rackattack or NI battery ?

peter.

----- Original Message -----

From: "Automatic Panic" <thesoundzoneinfo@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] MD suitable for Drum and Bass ?


> You can combine a hihat with a snare hit on the MD.
> There are alot of different sounds that can be made
> from this machine. It is very good for techno electro
> house and hip hop but if you think about it, dnb uses
> the same sounds from alot of these genres. Alot of dnb
> artist use samples so I'm sure that they are using
> some made with the MD. :)
>
>
> --- peter gremme <pgremme@...> wrote:
> > thanks, but i read a posting some time ago, saying
> > that the MD is only
> > suitable for techno, hiphop and electro, that's why
> > i'm asking.
> > Who ever make a "Andy C RAM-RECORDS SNARE" on this
> > thing ?
> > i know it is also a hihat but the hihat is merged in
> > the snare and that
> > makes the sound massive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Automatic Panic" <thesoundzoneinfo@...>
> > To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 7:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [elektron] MD suitable for Drum and
> > Bass ?
> >
> >
> > > It has all the sounds for DnB so now it is all up
> > to
> > > the person sequencing it to make the dnb beats.
> > This
> > > machine will blow your mind, it does mine
> > everytime I
> > > mess with it. :)
> > >
> > > -Auto
> > >
> > >
> > > --- peter gremme <pgremme@...> wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Are there some guys here with experience in
> > making
> > > > dnb on the MD and what is
> > > > your opinion ?
> > > > is it suitable for dnb ?
> > > > maybe some links to dnb songs made with the MD ?
> > > >
> > > > thanks and regards, Peter.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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yes you can make them sound like one sound, with the
MD you build your own kit and just last night I used a
bass drm with another sound and made a different sound
all together. The MD lets you assign the synth sound
to any of the sound selection, let me explain better,
say you don't like the snare sound you can replace it
with any other sound by setting it to the snare part
then you have two of those sounds. It allows you to
layer the sounds. Forget about what all the other dnb
artist use, get something that you can use and come up
with your own style. You'll be happy with whatever you
decide to get.

--- peter gremme <pgremme@...> wrote:
> ok, but can you make them sound like it's one sound
> ?
> and you're right about the styles that are used in
> dnb,
> does someone here seen a MD in a dnb-producer's
> setup ? maybe in the
> knowledge ?
> those ram-guys make massive beats, but do they make
> them only with samples
> from old records or
> do they also use MD, rackattack or NI battery ?
> 
> peter.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Automatic Panic" <thesoundzoneinfo@...>
> To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 7:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [elektron] MD suitable for Drum and
> Bass ?
> 
> 
> > You can combine a hihat with a snare hit on the
> MD.
> > There are alot of different sounds that can be
> made
> > from this machine. It is very good for techno
> electro
> > house and hip hop but if you think about it, dnb
> uses
> > the same sounds from alot of these genres. Alot of
> dnb
> > artist use samples so I'm sure that they are using
> > some made with the MD. :)
> >
> >
> > --- peter gremme <pgremme@...> wrote:
> > > thanks, but i read a posting some time ago,
> saying
> > > that the MD is only
> > > suitable for techno, hiphop and electro, that's
> why
> > > i'm asking.
> > > Who ever make a "Andy C RAM-RECORDS SNARE" on
> this
> > > thing ?
> > > i know it is also a hihat but the hihat is
> merged in
> > > the snare and that
> > > makes the sound massive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > peter
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Automatic Panic"
> <thesoundzoneinfo@...>
> > > To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 7:05 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [elektron] MD suitable for Drum and
> > > Bass ?
> > >
> > >
> > > > It has all the sounds for DnB so now it is all
> up
> > > to
> > > > the person sequencing it to make the dnb
> beats.
> > > This
> > > > machine will blow your mind, it does mine
> > > everytime I
> > > > mess with it. :)
> > > >
> > > > -Auto
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- peter gremme <pgremme@...> wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Are there some guys here with experience in
> > > making
> > > > > dnb on the MD and what is
> > > > > your opinion ?
> > > > > is it suitable for dnb ?
> > > > > maybe some links to dnb songs made with the
> MD ?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks and regards, Peter.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
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On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:28:59AM -0800, Automatic Panic wrote:
>    Forget about what all the other dnb
>    artist use, get something that you can use and come up
>    with your own style. You'll be happy with whatever you
>    decide to get.

I couldn't agree more.

the depth of sound in the MD is incredible, so I think it would be
difficult to find a style of electronica that it *wouldn't* work with.

so I have to *strongly* disagree with anyone who says it's good for
hiphop and techno only.

Joe

Hi,

I would say that you maybe be missing snares a bit, since I found 
that there can be so many different snare sounds, that md surely cant 
do everyone of them. That said, drumm and bass is mostly sampled 
stuff which md can't do. This seems that it doesn't fit BUT I would 
say that you should still get md. You can use mds midi for sampled 
stuff. I'm using it with battery and with MD userinterface you really 
get beats going! I mean I would buy it for userinterface alone. I 
don't mean to say that it can't make good sounds, it can and it will, 
you'll see. It's your best change, believe me..

Toni.


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joe <jmelnyk@c...> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:28:59AM -0800, Automatic Panic wrote:
> >    Forget about what all the other dnb
> >    artist use, get something that you can use and come up
> >    with your own style. You'll be happy with whatever you
> >    decide to get.
> 
> I couldn't agree more.
> 
> the depth of sound in the MD is incredible, so I think it would be
> difficult to find a style of electronica that it *wouldn't* work 
with.

> 
> so I have to *strongly* disagree with anyone who says it's good for
> hiphop and techno only.
> 
> Joe

Hi,

I haven't been able to reproduce AndyC's kinda snare, but it's true 
that with 2/3 sounds (not including the original sampled snare), you 
can get something that does the job very well, but not exactely this 
one.
I actually made entire dnb patterns with the just MD, but it sounds 
closer to mike harris dnb than ed rush of course.
As for the sample snare sound itself, I found the one on the mono 
much better as it can be used for old school jungle pretty nicely (In 
my wildest dreams I would receive a sysex file to put the MM samples 
in my MD instead of the original one, Daniel ? ;-), but on the MD, 
once you discover the retrig function, you barely use the raw samples.

However, the MD surprises me everyday with it's power compared to 
most other instruments I know, I can make things some people do with 
2-3 instruments. Even if it's pbbly not as good as a highend sampler 
for dnb, go for it, you won't regret it at all and will have lots of 
instant fun.
And buy a MM, I haven't had time to tweak the sounds enough, but I 
already managed to get great leads and basses !

cu, matt













--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "tahvenaine2002" 
<tahvenaine@c...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would say that you maybe be missing snares a bit, since I found 
> that there can be so many different snare sounds, that md surely 
cant 
> do everyone of them. That said, drumm and bass is mostly sampled 
> stuff which md can't do. This seems that it doesn't fit BUT I would 
> say that you should still get md. You can use mds midi for sampled 
> stuff. I'm using it with battery and with MD userinterface you 
really 
> get beats going! I mean I would buy it for userinterface alone. I 
> don't mean to say that it can't make good sounds, it can and it 
will, 
> you'll see. It's your best change, believe me..
> 
> Toni.
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joe <jmelnyk@c...> wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:28:59AM -0800, Automatic Panic wrote:
> > >    Forget about what all the other dnb
> > >    artist use, get something that you can use and come up
> > >    with your own style. You'll be happy with whatever you
> > >    decide to get.
> > 
> > I couldn't agree more.
> > 
> > the depth of sound in the MD is incredible, so I think it would be
> > difficult to find a style of electronica that it *wouldn't* work 
> with.
> > 
> > so I have to *strongly* disagree with anyone who says it's good 
for

> > hiphop and techno only.
> > 
> > Joe

hello all,

i'm new to the forum. i just got my monomachine
about a day ago, and i cannot believe the amazing
sounds I have been getting out of it. this is one of the
coolest synths i have ever used!

i'm looking forward to some indepth discussion

all the best,

arvin clay


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Welcome aboard, arvin!

On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 03:14 PM, aRvin Clay wrote:

> hello all,
>
> i'm new to the forum. i just got my monomachine
> about a day ago, and i cannot believe the amazing
> sounds I have been getting out of it. this is one of the
> coolest synths i have ever used!
>
> i'm looking forward to some indepth discussion
>
> all the best,
>
> arvin clay
>
>
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Hey Arvin!  Next time you're in PGH bring the MnM with you so I can try  
it out :)

c.

On Nov 4, 2003, at 6:14 PM, aRvin Clay wrote:

> hello all,
>
> i'm new to the forum. i just got my monomachine
> about a day ago, and i cannot believe the amazing
> sounds I have been getting out of it. this is one of the
> coolest synths i have ever used!
>
> i'm looking forward to some indepth discussion
>
> all the best,
>
> arvin clay
>
>
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Hey Corey!

No prob, man. I would have had it on this last trip but I wasn't 
expecting the extra $$$ for the tariffs, and I wasn't smart enough to 
leave a blank check.

But I will have it next time. :)

-a
On Nov 5, 2003, at 11:05 AM, Corey Appleby wrote:

>
> Hey Arvin!  Next time you're in PGH bring the MnM with you so I can 
> try 
> it out :)
>
> c.
>
> On Nov 4, 2003, at 6:14 PM, aRvin Clay wrote:
>
> > hello all,
> >
> > i'm new to the forum. i just got my monomachine
> > about a day ago, and i cannot believe the amazing
> > sounds I have been getting out of it. this is one of the
> > coolest synths i have ever used!
> >
> > i'm looking forward to some indepth discussion
> >
> > all the best,
> >
> > arvin clay
> >
> >
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I'm pretty amazed so far at the sounds I've been able to get...my 
synth experience is a work in progress and the MM makes it fun work 
indeed! :)


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, aRvin Clay <silicone@m...> 
wrote:

> hello all,
> 
> i'm new to the forum. i just got my monomachine
> about a day ago, and i cannot believe the amazing
> sounds I have been getting out of it. this is one of the
> coolest synths i have ever used!
> 
> i'm looking forward to some indepth discussion
> 
> all the best,
> 
> arvin clay
> 
> 
> --
> in the neon sign scrolling up and down
> I am born again
> 
> http://www.replicants.org
> "more human then human" is our motto
> 
> 
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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "peter gremme" <pgremme@h...> 
wrote:
> ok, but can you make them sound like it's one sound ?
> and you're right about the styles that are used in dnb,
> does someone here seen a MD in a dnb-producer's setup ?

im looking forward to adding one to my rig very soon, perhaps as soon 
as tomorrow if im lucky =O)

dnb has branched off to incorporate so many different sounds and 
styles that its hard to nail down one type of snare sound as being 
the "right" snare.  take kemal for example...he's taken dnb in a 
different direction with different sounding drums and not in a 
typical way, but still very effective (esp on a soundsystem-try 
kemal's 'plan b' on Timeless to start).  almost any snare can be used 
respective to all of the other elements.  IMO its better to zero in 
on what you are feeling instead of tracking that "one" synth or drum 
machine down that the other producers are using to get a specific 
sound.  you will go a lot farther that way.

angelzero

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "loopcycle" <angelzero@h...> 
wrote:
>  IMO its better to zero in 
> on what you are feeling instead of tracking that "one" synth or 
drum 
> machine down that the other producers are using to get a specific 
> sound.  you will go a lot farther that way.

I totally agree, do your own thing instead of sounding like the rest.

Ronald.