Elektron Musical Instruments

Hi to all on the list,

                           I just got hold of a secondhand sidstation (feel 
a bit cheap saying that!) Very cool and totally creative synth...I have 
found however that when i
accidently move the power lead whilst in patch/edit mode it switches the 
unit on and off
possibly in rapid succession.this in turn causes the unit to lock or 
specifically i cant access the patch mode..i can access the system mode 
luckily. i have to do a system memory clear and re-initialise the memory 
clearing everything in prder to get back into patch/edit mode.Its then fine  
but has done it a couple of times.Howvever it's fine all the time you don't 
move the sid or specifically the power connection.I guess a bit of bluetack 
may help..has anyone else this problem....Ps i'm using the latest operating 
system update...

best wishes,

ishq


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On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:16:04 GMT, ishq x wrote:
>when i
>accidently move the power lead whilst in patch/edit mode it switches the 
>unit on and off
>possibly in rapid succession.this in turn causes the unit to lock or 
>specifically i cant access the patch mode..i can access the system mode 
>luckily. i have to do a system memory clear and re-initialise the memory 
>clearing everything in prder to get back into patch/edit mode.Its then fine  
>has anyone else this problem....

I had this exact problem. After much abuse, the power supply leads became creased and frayed near the plug end and 
sometimes the connection would break momentarily and reconnect quickly, flickering current to the Sidstation. After 
this, any attempt to go into patch mode resulted in a hang. Clearing memory restored functionality.

Solution: Buy a solidly built power supply with one voltage and a single, properly sized adaptor tip hard wired into 
the leads. I haven't had the problem ever since.

Alternately, maybe the power socket on the sidstation is coming loose on the inside and needs to be resoldered. 
Scary.

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Isq:

                I have exactly this same problem, if i fiddle around with or
the something touches the power lead my sidstation looses power thus corrupting
the memory, midi channel, etc.  I emailed the group about this sort of
indirectly, just cause i noticed i could lower the noise floor by fiddling with
it, getting it "just right", but in doing so i posed the risk of losing all my
patches.  Well i got an email from Daniel Hannson saying that he though it
might be the power supply as the lead shouldn't be so tempermental, it seems i
have bought the right one, but just to be on the safe side i'm picking up one
of the power supplies elektron now includes with orders(i got mine before they
did this).  They're $25.00 with shipping, if your in the us from
drummachine.com.  I'll email the list once mine arrives, hopefully it
alleviates some of the noise my sid puts out (hum...), and the freakishness of
touching the power lead.

christian

Under normal circumstances i would be a little upset but seeing as the 
quality of the synth is so cool and unusual i kind of let it off....My power 
unit is an quite expensive 1
thats fine.i think it's just that the connector that pushes in.....its a 
little lose but definately the correct size.It's a question of some bluetack 
or a powersupply from elektron i think.....

Strangely though i had another minor error earlier which may be 
different.....when trying to
save sysex data of sounds programmed it's fine in single patch export mode 
but exports nothing(nothing when you try and load the patches back into the 
sid) when you go to save the entire memory....when you import the 'saved 
memory' it locks and patch one shows a patch with kind of smily faces 
?whilst all the rest of the patches are empty.....ps i have not taken lsd 
for some time or hollucinagenics (nice spelling)maybe i need some!

Its fine in single mode so i'm not to bothered....

ishq

>From: "Andrew Denyes" <dandrew@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@egroups.com
>To: "elektron-users@egroups.com" <elektron-users@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [elektron] Sid goes haywire when my power lead is accidently 
>moved.....
>Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 02:02:52 -0700
>
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>On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:16:04 GMT, ishq x wrote:
> >when i
> >accidently move the power lead whilst in patch/edit mode it switches the
> >unit on and off
> >possibly in rapid succession.this in turn causes the unit to lock or
> >specifically i cant access the patch mode..i can access the system mode
> >luckily. i have to do a system memory clear and re-initialise the memory
> >clearing everything in prder to get back into patch/edit mode.Its then 
>fine
> >has anyone else this problem....
>
>I had this exact problem. After much abuse, the power supply leads became 
>creased and frayed near the plug end and
>sometimes the connection would break momentarily and reconnect quickly, 
>flickering current to the Sidstation. After
>this, any attempt to go into patch mode resulted in a hang. Clearing memory 
>restored functionality.
>
>Solution: Buy a solidly built power supply with one voltage and a single, 
>properly sized adaptor tip hard wired into
>the leads. I haven't had the problem ever since.
>
>Alternately, maybe the power socket on the sidstation is coming loose on 
>the inside and needs to be resoldered.
>Scary.
>
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>                I have exactly this same problem, if i fiddle around with
>or
>the something touches the power lead my sidstation looses power thus
>corrupting
>the memory, midi channel, etc.  I emailed the group about this sort of
>indirectly, just cause i noticed i could lower the noise floor by
>fiddling with
>it, getting it "just right", but in doing so i posed the risk of losing
>all my
>patches.  Well i got an email from Daniel Hannson saying that he though it
>might be the power supply as the lead shouldn't be so tempermental, it
>seems i
>have bought the right one, but just to be on the safe side i'm picking up
>one
>of the power supplies elektron now includes with orders(i got mine before
>they
>did this).  They're $25.00 with shipping, if your in the us from
>drummachine.com.  I'll email the list once mine arrives, hopefully it
>alleviates some of the noise my sid puts out (hum...), and the
>freakishness of
>touching the power lead.
>
>christian

I have lived to the same problem aswell! And i have fixed it!

I tried maaany different PSUs and surge-protectors awsell....

The thing that solved it thou was when i opened the machine and saw that
the cable running from the PSU jack wasn't properly soldered, and when i
tuched it, the cable, or the powerbutton the same problem as you guys had
appeared!!!!

I simply made a new soldering on the PSU jack and from that day my maching
is PERFECT. Now it can take any punishment!

Also, on the first 100units there is a problem that will have that effect
that your user memory will be erased if the machine runf on unclean power,
och if a peak runs throu the unit...... example.... if you turn on your
sidstation first, and then a BIIIG mixingdesk, you memory on the SidSation
may blow....!

I have installed a simple surge-protector where i put mut PSU now (you can
find one in any harwarestore) and that works perfect.
I'm also told that you can return your machine to ELEKTRON and they will
install a magic diode in the machine removing this problem aswell....!

Try this and you will once again fall in love with this wonderful machine!

-Roberth 
S K O M M

I seemed to have solved the lose connector problem witha tight fitting lead 
connector
and so no rapid on/off/on/off and memory freeze up....

....i can swing the sid above my head now and it stays on and ok....it still 
sounds cool also...

cheers,

ishq

>From: "Roberth Sandqvist" <roberth@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@egroups.com
>To: elektron-users@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [elektron] Re: Sid goes haywire when my power lead is 
>accidently moved.....
>Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:50:12 +0200
>
> >                I have exactly this same problem, if i fiddle around with
> >or
> >the something touches the power lead my sidstation looses power thus
> >corrupting
> >the memory, midi channel, etc.  I emailed the group about this sort of
> >indirectly, just cause i noticed i could lower the noise floor by
> >fiddling with
> >it, getting it "just right", but in doing so i posed the risk of losing
> >all my
> >patches.  Well i got an email from Daniel Hannson saying that he though 
>it
> >might be the power supply as the lead shouldn't be so tempermental, it
> >seems i
> >have bought the right one, but just to be on the safe side i'm picking up
> >one
> >of the power supplies elektron now includes with orders(i got mine before
> >they
> >did this).  They're $25.00 with shipping, if your in the us from
> >drummachine.com.  I'll email the list once mine arrives, hopefully it
> >alleviates some of the noise my sid puts out (hum...), and the
> >freakishness of
> >touching the power lead.
> >
> >christian
>
>I have lived to the same problem aswell! And i have fixed it!
>
>I tried maaany different PSUs and surge-protectors awsell....
>
>The thing that solved it thou was when i opened the machine and saw that
>the cable running from the PSU jack wasn't properly soldered, and when i
>tuched it, the cable, or the powerbutton the same problem as you guys had
>appeared!!!!
>
>I simply made a new soldering on the PSU jack and from that day my maching
>is PERFECT. Now it can take any punishment!
>
>Also, on the first 100units there is a problem that will have that effect
>that your user memory will be erased if the machine runf on unclean power,
>och if a peak runs throu the unit...... example.... if you turn on your
>sidstation first, and then a BIIIG mixingdesk, you memory on the SidSation
>may blow....!
>
>I have installed a simple surge-protector where i put mut PSU now (you can
>find one in any harwarestore) and that works perfect.
>I'm also told that you can return your machine to ELEKTRON and they will
>install a magic diode in the machine removing this problem aswell....!
>
>Try this and you will once again fall in love with this wonderful machine!
>
>-Roberth
>S K O M M
>
>
>
>
>

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I seemed to have solved the lose connector problem witha tight fitting lead 
connector
and so no rapid on/off/on/off and memory freeze up....

....i can swing the sid above my head now and it stays on and ok....it still 
sounds cool also...

cheers,

ishq

>From: "Roberth Sandqvist" <roberth@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@egroups.com
>To: elektron-users@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [elektron] Re: Sid goes haywire when my power lead is 
>accidently moved.....
>Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:50:12 +0200
>
> >                I have exactly this same problem, if i fiddle around with
> >or
> >the something touches the power lead my sidstation looses power thus
> >corrupting
> >the memory, midi channel, etc.  I emailed the group about this sort of
> >indirectly, just cause i noticed i could lower the noise floor by
> >fiddling with
> >it, getting it "just right", but in doing so i posed the risk of losing
> >all my
> >patches.  Well i got an email from Daniel Hannson saying that he though 
>it
> >might be the power supply as the lead shouldn't be so tempermental, it
> >seems i
> >have bought the right one, but just to be on the safe side i'm picking up
> >one
> >of the power supplies elektron now includes with orders(i got mine before
> >they
> >did this).  They're $25.00 with shipping, if your in the us from
> >drummachine.com.  I'll email the list once mine arrives, hopefully it
> >alleviates some of the noise my sid puts out (hum...), and the
> >freakishness of
> >touching the power lead.
> >
> >christian
>
>I have lived to the same problem aswell! And i have fixed it!
>
>I tried maaany different PSUs and surge-protectors awsell....
>
>The thing that solved it thou was when i opened the machine and saw that
>the cable running from the PSU jack wasn't properly soldered, and when i
>tuched it, the cable, or the powerbutton the same problem as you guys had
>appeared!!!!
>
>I simply made a new soldering on the PSU jack and from that day my maching
>is PERFECT. Now it can take any punishment!
>
>Also, on the first 100units there is a problem that will have that effect
>that your user memory will be erased if the machine runf on unclean power,
>och if a peak runs throu the unit...... example.... if you turn on your
>sidstation first, and then a BIIIG mixingdesk, you memory on the SidSation
>may blow....!
>
>I have installed a simple surge-protector where i put mut PSU now (you can
>find one in any harwarestore) and that works perfect.
>I'm also told that you can return your machine to ELEKTRON and they will
>install a magic diode in the machine removing this problem aswell....!
>
>Try this and you will once again fall in love with this wonderful machine!
>
>-Roberth
>S K O M M
>
>
>
>
>

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