Emax

Emu Emax 1 external SCSI Card Reader Problem

I have an Emu Emax 1 with the external SCSI jack.  I can get it to
work with an external Zip disk fine.  But when I try to use it with my
external MicroTech card reader I am having problems.  If I set the
drive to SCSI id 1 I can boot off my floppy frive,  format the card
(card slot 1 with a PCMCIA 20MB card).  I can then use the copy
software option to put the OS on the card and go ahead and start
saving to the card.  All works fine until I restart the stystem.  If I
take the floppy disk out to boot off the Card Reader it freezes on the
loading system screen.  If I reboot with the floppy it will boot but
when I go to use the Card Reader it will say something about no
hardrive table found.  Then if I boot off the floppy and use the
verify hard drive - (Master - Special menu) it will find the drive and
verify it is fine and then I can save to the drive. 

The problem is that I can not boot off the card reader (need to use a
floppy all the time and I have to verify the drive (takes about 3
minutes) everytime I want to use it.

Anybody have any suggestions. 

Thanks for any help.
Joe

Could you boot off the zip?  I've never booted off scsi, just the internal HD.


To: emax@yahoogroups.comFrom: joesanborn@...: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:35:35 +0000Subject: [emax] Emu Emax 1 external SCSI Card Reader Problem




Emu Emax 1 external SCSI Card Reader ProblemI have an Emu Emax 1 with the external SCSI jack. I can get it towork with an external Zip disk fine. But when I try to use it with myexternal MicroTech card reader I am having problems. If I set thedrive to SCSI id 1 I can boot off my floppy frive, format the card(card slot 1 with a PCMCIA 20MB card). I can then use the copysoftware option to put the OS on the card and go ahead and startsaving to the card. All works fine until I restart the stystem. If Itake the floppy disk out to boot off the Card Reader it freezes on theloading system screen. If I reboot with the floppy it will boot butwhen I go to use the Card Reader it will say something about nohardrive table found. Then if I boot off the floppy and use theverify hard drive - (Master - Special menu) it will find the drive andverify it is fine and then I can save to the drive. The problem is that I can not boot off the card reader (need to use afloppy all the time and I have to verify the drive (takes about 3minutes) everytime I want to use it.Anybody have any suggestions. Thanks for any help.Joe 






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Hi
I can not boot off the Zip because it only sets to SCSI id 5 or 6.
The Emax is looking for SCSI id 0 as the boot drive.
Joe




On Aug 30, 2007, at 12:12 PM, Eduardo Saponara wrote:

>
> Could you boot off the zip? I've never booted off scsi, just the  
> internal HD.
>
> To: emax@yahoogroups.comFrom: joesanborn@...: Thu, 30 Aug  
> 2007 14:35:35 +0000Subject: [emax] Emu Emax 1 external SCSI Card  
> Reader Problem
>
> Emu Emax 1 external SCSI Card Reader ProblemI have an Emu Emax 1  
> with the external SCSI jack. I can get it towork with an external  
> Zip disk fine. But when I try to use it with myexternal MicroTech  
> card reader I am having problems. If I set thedrive to SCSI id 1 I  
> can boot off my floppy frive, format the card(card slot 1 with a  
> PCMCIA 20MB card). I can then use the copysoftware option to put  
> the OS on the card and go ahead and startsaving to the card. All  
> works fine until I restart the stystem. If Itake the floppy disk  
> out to boot off the Card Reader it freezes on theloading system  
> screen. If I reboot with the floppy it will boot butwhen I go to  
> use the Card Reader it will say something about nohardrive table  
> found. Then if I boot off the floppy and use theverify hard drive -  
> (Master - Special menu) it will find the drive andverify it is fine  
> and then I can save to the drive. The problem is that I can not  
> boot off the card reader (need to use afloppy all the time and I  
> have to veri! fy the drive (takes about 3minutes) everytime I want  
> to use it.Anybody have any suggestions. Thanks for any help.Joe
>
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Hello,

I built a scsi zip into an external case and set it to ID 0
and it does indeed boot. One thing that's different about
the external zip i made vs the factory purple zips is that
after the emax and the zip drive have been turned on for
awhile it seems the zip goes to sleep and cannot be
accessed until I powercycle the zip enclosure. It's a
little annoying but not a show stopper.

Regards,

Mike Wolak

--- Joe Sanborn <joesanborn@...> wrote:

> Hi
> I can not boot off the Zip because it only sets to SCSI
> id 5 or 6.
> The Emax is looking for SCSI id 0 as the boot drive.
> Joe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 30, 2007, at 12:12 PM, Eduardo Saponara wrote:
> 
> >
> > Could you boot off the zip? I've never booted off scsi,
> just the  
> > internal HD.
> >
> > To: emax@yahoogroups.comFrom: joesanborn@...:
> Thu, 30 Aug  
> > 2007 14:35:35 +0000Subject: [emax] Emu Emax 1 external
> SCSI Card  
> > Reader Problem
> >
> > Emu Emax 1 external SCSI Card Reader ProblemI have an
> Emu Emax 1  
> > with the external SCSI jack. I can get it towork with
> an external  
> > Zip disk fine. But when I try to use it with myexternal
> MicroTech  
> > card reader I am having problems. If I set thedrive to
> SCSI id 1 I  
> > can boot off my floppy frive, format the card(card slot
> 1 with a  
> > PCMCIA 20MB card). I can then use the copysoftware
> option to put  
> > the OS on the card and go ahead and startsaving to the
> card. All  
> > works fine until I restart the stystem. If Itake the
> floppy disk  
> > out to boot off the Card Reader it freezes on
> theloading system  
> > screen. If I reboot with the floppy it will boot
> butwhen I go to  
> > use the Card Reader it will say something about
> nohardrive table  
> > found. Then if I boot off the floppy and use theverify
> hard drive -  
> > (Master - Special menu) it will find the drive
> andverify it is fine  
> > and then I can save to the drive. The problem is that I
> can not  
> > boot off the card reader (need to use afloppy all the
> time and I  
> > have to veri! fy the drive (takes about 3minutes)
> everytime I want  
> > to use it.Anybody have any suggestions. Thanks for any
> help.Joe
> >
> >
>
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Then how are you trying to boot from the card reader at scsi ID 1 ?
 
or am I misunderstanding the problem.
 
Ed


To: emax@yahoogroups.comFrom: joesanborn@...: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:41:31 -0400Subject: Re: [emax] Emu Emax 1 external SCSI Card Reader Problem




HiI can not boot off the Zip because it only sets to SCSI id 5 or 6.The Emax is looking for SCSI id 0 as the boot drive.JoeOn Aug 30, 2007, at 12:12 PM, Eduardo Saponara wrote:>> Could you boot off the zip? I've never booted off scsi, just the > internal HD.>> To: emax@yahoogroups.comFrom: joesanborn@...: Thu, 30 Aug > 2007 14:35:35 +0000Subject: [emax] Emu Emax 1 external SCSI Card > Reader Problem>> Emu Emax 1 external SCSI Card Reader ProblemI have an Emu Emax 1 > with the external SCSI jack. I can get it towork with an external > Zip disk fine. But when I try to use it with myexternal MicroTech > card reader I am having problems. If I set thedrive to SCSI id 1 I > can boot off my floppy frive, format the card(card slot 1 with a > PCMCIA 20MB card). I can then use the copysoftware option to put > the OS on the card and go ahead and startsaving to the card. All > works fine until I restart the stystem. If Itake the floppy disk > out to boot off the Card Reader it freezes on theloading system > screen. If I reboot with the floppy it will boot butwhen I go to > use the Card Reader it will say something about nohardrive table > found. Then if I boot off the floppy and use theverify hard drive - > (Master - Special menu) it will find the drive andverify it is fine > and then I can save to the drive. The problem is that I can not > boot off the card reader (need to use afloppy all the time and I > have to veri! fy the drive (takes about 3minutes) everytime I want > to use it.Anybody have any suggestions. Thanks for any help.Joe>> __________________________________________________________> Learn. Laugh. Share. Reallivemoms is right place!> http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 






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Sorry typo,  I was using SCSI id 0 to boot.
Thanks
Joe




On Aug 30, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Eduardo Saponara wrote:

>
> Then how are you trying to boot from the card reader at scsi ID 1 ?
>
> or am I misunderstanding the problem.
>
> Ed
>
> To: emax@yahoogroups.comFrom: joesanborn@...: Thu, 30 Aug  
> 2007 12:41:31 -0400Subject: Re: [emax] Emu Emax 1 external SCSI  
> Card Reader Problem
>
> HiI can not boot off the Zip because it only sets to SCSI id 5 or  
> 6.The Emax is looking for SCSI id 0 as the boot drive.JoeOn Aug 30,  
> 2007, at 12:12 PM, Eduardo Saponara wrote:>> Could you boot off the  
> zip? I've never booted off scsi, just the > internal HD.>> To:  
> emax@yahoogroups.comFrom: joesanborn@...: Thu, 30 Aug >  
> 2007 14:35:35 +0000Subject: [emax] Emu Emax 1 external SCSI Card >  
> Reader Problem>> Emu Emax 1 external SCSI Card Reader ProblemI have  
> an Emu Emax 1 > with the external SCSI jack. I can get it towork  
> with an external > Zip disk fine. But when I try to use it with  
> myexternal MicroTech > card reader I am having problems. If I set  
> thedrive to SCSI id 1 I > can boot off my floppy frive, format the  
> card(card slot 1 with a > PCMCIA 20MB card). I can then use the  
> copysoftware option to put > the OS on the card and ! go ahead and  
> startsaving to the card. All > works fine until I restart the  
> stystem. If Itake the floppy disk > out to boot off the Card Reader  
> it freezes on theloading system > screen. If I reboot with the  
> floppy it will boot butwhen I go to > use the Card Reader it will  
> say something about nohardrive table > found. Then if I boot off  
> the floppy and use theverify hard drive - > (Master - Special menu)  
> it will find the drive andverify it is fine > and then I can save  
> to the drive. The problem is that I can not > boot off the card  
> reader (need to use afloppy all the time and I > have to veri! fy  
> the drive (takes about 3minutes) everytime I want > to use  
> it.Anybody have any suggestions. Thanks for any help.Joe>>  
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> Joe <
You options would be;

1) install a HD internally to boot from then mount the externals
2) get an internal SCSI ZIP drive and mount it in a case with the ID 
jumpers removed so it registers as "0"
3) see if you can find a Reader or case for the reader that allows you 
to set the reader to "0"

You really never want to boot from floppy it just makes the unit run 
slower since when you are accessing different modules it reads from the 
floppy.