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Emax & MPC2Kxl

2009-05-03 by wagwan.drgreenthumb

Hi all,
I've gotten some nice results with my akai mpc2kxl and emax setup, but my workflow is very limited by the way im currently using them both together. Ive got the two connected via midi- but at the moment im recording sounds from the emax into the mpc because trying to control the emax via the mpc midi seems very limited.

as an example, i cant control velocity, pitch, envelope settings on the emax with the mpc.

can anyone help? where am i going wrong here?

Thanks people.

Re: Emax & MPC2Kxl

2009-05-03 by wagwan.drgreenthumb

For the record, im refering to an Emax 1 Rack, not keyboard

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "wagwan.drgreenthumb" <wagwan.drgreenthumb@...> wrote:
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> Hi all,
> I've gotten some nice results with my akai mpc2kxl and emax setup, but my workflow is very limited by the way im currently using them both together. Ive got the two connected via midi- but at the moment im recording sounds from the emax into the mpc because trying to control the emax via the mpc midi seems very limited.
> 
> as an example, i cant control velocity, pitch, envelope settings on the emax with the mpc.
> 
> can anyone help? where am i going wrong here?
> 
> Thanks people.
>

Re: Emax & MPC2Kxl

2009-05-03 by jammie.emma

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "wagwan.drgreenthumb" <wagwan.drgreenthumb@...> wrote:
>you need the sysex manual for the emax so you can see the what the sysex data is to control the functions you require 

also you can set controllers in the emax to perform functions filter vca volume and lfo and pan and others to work from midi cc controllers

1/2/3/4 and so on once set in the emax you can say use mod wheel to control filter cutoff 

i have a emagic sound diver 3 that i made a synth editor with to control the emax by using the sysex data 
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> For the record, im refering to an Emax 1 Rack, not keyboard
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "wagwan.drgreenthumb" <wagwan.drgreenthumb@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I've gotten some nice results with my akai mpc2kxl and emax setup, but my workflow is very limited by the way im currently using them both together. Ive got the two connected via midi- but at the moment im recording sounds from the emax into the mpc because trying to control the emax via the mpc midi seems very limited.
> > 
> > as an example, i cant control velocity, pitch, envelope settings on the emax with the mpc.
> > 
> > can anyone help? where am i going wrong here?
> > 
> > Thanks people.
> >
>

Re: [emax] Emax & MPC2Kxl

2009-05-03 by Brooks Mosher

you have to learn how to program the Emax.

it's really not that difficult, you go into the analog processing section
and adjust the velocity settings...  and by the way, you can't control
envelope settings via CC data, maybe there are some synths/samplers that can
do that but most can not.  and pitch...  i don't understand what you're
asking: pitch is controlled from the keyboard.



On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:41 PM, wagwan.drgreenthumb <
wagwan.drgreenthumb@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hi all,
> I've gotten some nice results with my akai mpc2kxl and emax setup, but my
> workflow is very limited by the way im currently using them both together.
> Ive got the two connected via midi- but at the moment im recording sounds
> from the emax into the mpc because trying to control the emax via the mpc
> midi seems very limited.
>
> as an example, i cant control velocity, pitch, envelope settings on the
> emax with the mpc.
>
> can anyone help? where am i going wrong here?
>
> Thanks people.
>
>  
>


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Re: Emax & MPC2Kxl

2009-05-03 by wagwan.drgreenthumb

Im using an Emax 1 rack, and i have no seperate keyboard controller.  my ideal would be to control everything on the emax from the mpc.  as far as pitch goes, i was hoping i could control the pitch of any sample in the emax, by using the pitch control in the mpc's program screen.  this would be quicker and easier than spanning a sample across many keys.


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Brooks Mosher <brooksmosher@...> wrote:
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>
> you have to learn how to program the Emax.
> 
> it's really not that difficult, you go into the analog processing section
> and adjust the velocity settings...  and by the way, you can't control
> envelope settings via CC data, maybe there are some synths/samplers that can
> do that but most can not.  and pitch...  i don't understand what you're
> asking: pitch is controlled from the keyboard.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:41 PM, wagwan.drgreenthumb <
> wagwan.drgreenthumb@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I've gotten some nice results with my akai mpc2kxl and emax setup, but my
> > workflow is very limited by the way im currently using them both together.
> > Ive got the two connected via midi- but at the moment im recording sounds
> > from the emax into the mpc because trying to control the emax via the mpc
> > midi seems very limited.
> >
> > as an example, i cant control velocity, pitch, envelope settings on the
> > emax with the mpc.
> >
> > can anyone help? where am i going wrong here?
> >
> > Thanks people.
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: Emax & MPC2Kxl

2009-05-03 by wagwan.drgreenthumb

Excellent thanks.  Do you think it would be possible to achieve total control over the emax with the mpc?

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "jammie.emma" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
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> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "wagwan.drgreenthumb" <wagwan.drgreenthumb@> wrote:
> >you need the sysex manual for the emax so you can see the what the sysex data is to control the functions you require 
> 
> also you can set controllers in the emax to perform functions filter vca volume and lfo and pan and others to work from midi cc controllers
> 
> 1/2/3/4 and so on once set in the emax you can say use mod wheel to control filter cutoff 
> 
> i have a emagic sound diver 3 that i made a synth editor with to control the emax by using the sysex data 
> 
> 
> > For the record, im refering to an Emax 1 Rack, not keyboard
> > 
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "wagwan.drgreenthumb" <wagwan.drgreenthumb@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > I've gotten some nice results with my akai mpc2kxl and emax setup, but my workflow is very limited by the way im currently using them both together. Ive got the two connected via midi- but at the moment im recording sounds from the emax into the mpc because trying to control the emax via the mpc midi seems very limited.
> > > 
> > > as an example, i cant control velocity, pitch, envelope settings on the emax with the mpc.
> > > 
> > > can anyone help? where am i going wrong here?
> > > 
> > > Thanks people.
> > >
> >
>

Re: [emax] Re: Emax & MPC2Kxl

2009-05-03 by Julian

the MPC does not work like that.
the mpc slider set to pitch is for modifying pad samples, not MIDI
messages.

all pads can have just one MIDI note assigned to them, and the default
midi note mapping is pretty out there (not quite sure what they were
thinking with that, actually..) so if you want to play via mpc only,
you'll want to spend time making up pad maps (kits) for playing in
different keys and registers... if you can swing it I'd recommend adding
a basic MIDI keyboard to your setup - at least for writing.



On Sun, 03 May 2009 15:10 +0000, "wagwan.drgreenthumb"
<wagwan.drgreenthumb@...> wrote:
> Im using an Emax 1 rack, and i have no seperate keyboard controller.  my
> ideal would be to control everything on the emax from the mpc.  as far as
> pitch goes, i was hoping i could control the pitch of any sample in the
> emax, by using the pitch control in the mpc's program screen.  this would
> be quicker and easier than spanning a sample across many keys.
> 
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Re: Emax & MPC2Kxl

2009-05-04 by Rei

The emax has a lot of functions but the MPC does not.

I mean, the pitch bend is not a regular CC control that goes from 0 to 127, is a high resolution controller I believe it has 5000 or 8000 values and can be only controled by another pitch bend.

Then, the emax (as any other midi device) has a midi implementation chart where all the controlable CC parameters are described. Those parameters can be controlled from the MPC or any controller.

Now, the Emax has an special function that alloows you to control only 2 special fetures from  an external midi device. I have an Emax II keyboard, I am not shure about your module. So you can take a look at your manual, you can control the filter and some other stuffs. Actually in the keyboard version you could control the pan and filters with the pitch wheel and that was an incredible routing back then and today.

So, read the midi implementetion chart of the emax and I believe you can accomplish many things too if you learn deep your MPC.

Re: Emax & MPC2Kxl

2009-05-04 by wagwan.drgreenthumb

I'm considering getting a carillon control 25 midi keyboard controller.  should i expect to be able to control the following on the emax with it:

pitch (e.g pitch wheel)
velocity (e.g min/max velocity)
sample truncate
filters, vca etc

???

Cheers




--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Julian" <jujulilianan@...> wrote:
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>
> 
> the MPC does not work like that.
> the mpc slider set to pitch is for modifying pad samples, not MIDI
> messages.
> 
> all pads can have just one MIDI note assigned to them, and the default
> midi note mapping is pretty out there (not quite sure what they were
> thinking with that, actually..) so if you want to play via mpc only,
> you'll want to spend time making up pad maps (kits) for playing in
> different keys and registers... if you can swing it I'd recommend adding
> a basic MIDI keyboard to your setup - at least for writing.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 03 May 2009 15:10 +0000, "wagwan.drgreenthumb"
> <wagwan.drgreenthumb@...> wrote:
> > Im using an Emax 1 rack, and i have no seperate keyboard controller.  my
> > ideal would be to control everything on the emax from the mpc.  as far as
> > pitch goes, i was hoping i could control the pitch of any sample in the
> > emax, by using the pitch control in the mpc's program screen.  this would
> > be quicker and easier than spanning a sample across many keys.
> > 
> -- 
> http://bleepin.com
> 
> -- 
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>

Re: Emax & MPC2Kxl

2009-05-05 by jammie.emma

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "wagwan.drgreenthumb" <wagwan.drgreenthumb@...> wrote:
>

all except sample truncate
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> I'm considering getting a carillon control 25 midi keyboard controller.  should i expect to be able to control the following on the emax with it:
> 
> pitch (e.g pitch wheel)
> velocity (e.g min/max velocity)
> sample truncate
> filters, vca etc
> 
> ???
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Julian" <jujulilianan@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > the MPC does not work like that.
> > the mpc slider set to pitch is for modifying pad samples, not MIDI
> > messages.
> > 
> > all pads can have just one MIDI note assigned to them, and the default
> > midi note mapping is pretty out there (not quite sure what they were
> > thinking with that, actually..) so if you want to play via mpc only,
> > you'll want to spend time making up pad maps (kits) for playing in
> > different keys and registers... if you can swing it I'd recommend adding
> > a basic MIDI keyboard to your setup - at least for writing.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 03 May 2009 15:10 +0000, "wagwan.drgreenthumb"
> > <wagwan.drgreenthumb@> wrote:
> > > Im using an Emax 1 rack, and i have no seperate keyboard controller.  my
> > > ideal would be to control everything on the emax from the mpc.  as far as
> > > pitch goes, i was hoping i could control the pitch of any sample in the
> > > emax, by using the pitch control in the mpc's program screen.  this would
> > > be quicker and easier than spanning a sample across many keys.
> > > 
> > -- 
> > http://bleepin.com
> > 
> > -- 
> > http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be
> >
>

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