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Re: [EXS] Want ClosedHH to cutoff OpenHH

Re: [EXS] Want ClosedHH to cutoff OpenHH

2003-10-19 by Eli Krantzberg

Michael McKenzie wrote:

> Is there a way to set it up so key down on closed hihat will cutoff the 
> tail of the open hihat,

It's simple. Assign the two samples to the same unique group. And then 
set the polyphony of that group to 1 voice.

> There was a setting in the SampleCell editor that did this. 

  Yes. (I still use my Samplecell card occasionally believe it or 
not....). It basically works the same way. It involves assigning the two 
samples to the same SC instrument. And then making that instrument 
monophonic. You could then further limit the key note range of that 
instrument; then create other instruments set to that same midi channel 
that were polyphonic. That way you could play the whole kit from one 
midi channel/instrument in Logic and trigger everything as you want. The 
SC "instruments" served the same role as the "groups" do in EXS.

 > I don't like the idea of shortening the release for the
> whole drum set in order to do this. 

No need to do this. It's the wrong approach for what you want to do.

> Also, how do
> the separate outputs function? Does this mean multitimbral output or 
> does it refer to external hardware?

It refers to internal aux objects in Logic. In the EXS editor, you set 
the outputs of the groups as you like. Then create aux objects in Logic 
and set their inputs to correspond with those multi outs you have set in 
your multi-output  EXS instruments.



-- 
Eli Krantzberg
Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com

Re: [EXS] Want ClosedHH to cutoff OpenHH

2003-10-20 by Murray McDowall

Eli Krantzberg wrote: 
>
> Michael McKenzie wrote:
>
> > Is there a way to set it up so key down on closed hihat will cutoff the 
> > tail of the open hihat,
>
> It's simple. Assign the two samples to the same unique group. And then 
> set the polyphony of that group to 1 voice.


The only problem with this approach is that, when you have successive hits on
the open hat you get an unrealistic effect -- the cymbal does not ring on
realistically with the arrival of the second hit. Having a "Mute A#1" when Note
on F#1" setup would be a great solution to this. 

Sascha Franck posted a good workaround for this issue on this list a year or so
back. He suggested assigning 3 voices to the hat group and putting 2 dummy
zones on the closed hat note so that note on F#1 gives you three voices
sounding (two with zero volume) and note on A#1 makes only one zone sound. The
effect of this is that up to three open hat voices will accumulate  =>
realistic effect with successive hits -- but as soon as you hit the closed hat
all open hat tones are muted.

Regards,
Murray

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