EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

I've been searching the archives of both exs- and logic-users and 
combing the FAQ. Maybe I'm missing it, maybe its not possible :) I've 
got an exs instrument (that I converted from a Giga file). It has 
multiple zones on each key and spans about 2 octaves. I'd like to move 
the zones on one key to a different key. I want to do this for each of 
the keys. For example, on A#1, there's a dozen zones. I'd like to move 
all of the zones to D#2. Is there an easy way to accomplish this? I'm 
currently just selecting each zone and manually changing the key 
parameters, but its taking me a while :) Thanks for any information, 
and sorry if this is a faq.

On a fine day, 20-10-2003, Wesley Griffin wrote:

>I've been searching the archives of both exs- and logic-users and
>combing the FAQ. Maybe I'm missing it, maybe its not possible :) I've
>got an exs instrument (that I converted from a Giga file). It has
>multiple zones on each key and spans about 2 octaves. I'd like to move
>the zones on one key to a different key. I want to do this for each of
>the keys. For example, on A#1, there's a dozen zones. I'd like to move
>all of the zones to D#2. Is there an easy way to accomplish this? I'm
>currently just selecting each zone and manually changing the key
>parameters, but its taking me a while :) Thanks for any information,
>and sorry if this is a faq.

In the Key Commands window, type "zone" in the Find box. This should 
show a.o. the invaluable "move zone inc. root note up/down" commands, 
which is probably what you're looking for.  Assign a key to those 
commands, select all zones you want to move (shift-click), and save 
yourself hours of work and a bout of RSI :-).

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

They're here!  I got them today.  Still converting....but so far...so 
good.  I'll report more later.

julie

Yes, they are great! I got them last week. I only encountered one 
problem which had to do with the fact that the .gig names were too long 
for EXS to recognize. All I had to do was shorten the names, and voila! 
Buying SAM librarires is really a no-brainer... ;-)

Ned

On 03-11-01, at 00:12, Julie Larson wrote:

> They're here!  I got them today.  Still converting....but so far...so
> good.  I'll report more later.
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Julie Larson wrote:

Ok...as far as the release triggers go.
I'm comparing a CDXtract conversion with the internal one.  The
internal exs converter dropped the release samples and their group
completely.    Simply didn't convert at all.
On the MW front it appears that sometimes it works sometimes it
doesn't.  I just did a simple conversion Sam Trumpets Effects- MW
switch between 2 different "takes" of a cluster.  It converted
correctly.  But in more complicated setup...take for example one of the
Kirk Hunter Solo String programs, the converter has trouble....


Julie-

Your results seem to jive pretty well with what Maarten at Project SAM said 
to me regarding the various translations. Here's his quote:


"Internal Giga import of EXS is not too good. Surviving controllers and 
features are tuning and keyswitching. The rest of the program will disappear.
Crossfade layers will just get stacked. Release triggers won't work.
When I last tried CDXtract its conversion was ok, but kind of the opposite 
of internal-EXS. Crossfading was there, but keyswitching was not.
Translator I haven't tried."


I've had a heck of a time getting the SAM Trumpets into EXS24. I couldn't 
even copy most of the .gig files from the DVD to my hard drive, as my Mac 
reported errors and unreadable files. The ones it could read were truncated 
even though I have the Joliet reader. I was able to copy all the files 
using my PC, and so far I've translated just the main section programs 
using Translator (with proper file name reading on the Mac). Both the mod 
wheel and keyswitches seem to have come over, but since like you I don't 
have Gigasampler  I can't tell how accurate the translations really are. In 
addition, the louder samples are outrageously hot, forcing me to turn the 
level down at the EXS program level---making the softer samples almost too 
soft to use. I have no idea what's up with that!

This all seems like a frustrating waste of time, and I'm inclined to suffer 
without the trumpet library until SAM posts their own EXS versions which 
are promised "on the short term."  Of course, even then success will hinge 
on whether or not the original conversions created proper sample sets. Kind 
of makes me wonder why I don't just go out and get GigaStudio. Let us know 
if you meet with success---or failure---in your efforts to translate SAM 
Trumpets, and I'll do the same. Thanks,

Sean McCoy
Oregon Sound Recording

Hi Sean,
Are you on OSX?  and what version of CDXtract are you using?  I haven't 
checked every instrument extensivly..but I know that using CDXtract to 
translate...I'm getting release triggers, key switching and the MW 
programs seem to be functioning properly. I'm between projects so I've 
converted the entire library but haven't used it to speak of...but I'm 
not running into anything too strange.

About 10% of the names are truncated on conversion.  I can send you a 
gif of the program names to help if you would like.  CDXtract will 
convert from your DVD so you don't need to copy files.  My luck with 
Translator on this library wasn't as good.  Not always the case by any 
means.  I always try them both cause they have different strengths.

I've often thought of just buying Gigasampler....but I'd have to buy a 
PC too..

I'll keep you posted,
julie

> "Internal Giga import of EXS is not too good. Surviving controllers and
> features are tuning and keyswitching. The rest of the program will 
> disappear.
> Crossfade layers will just get stacked. Release triggers won't work.
> When I last tried CDXtract its conversion was ok, but kind of the 
> opposite
> of internal-EXS. Crossfading was there, but keyswitching was not.
> Translator I haven't tried."
>
>
> I've had a heck of a time getting the SAM Trumpets into EXS24. I 
> couldn't
> even copy most of the .gig files from the DVD to my hard drive, as my 
> Mac
> reported errors and unreadable files. The ones it could read were 
> truncated
> even though I have the Joliet reader. I was able to copy all the files
> using my PC, and so far I've translated just the main section programs
> using Translator (with proper file name reading on the Mac). Both the 
> mod
> wheel and keyswitches seem to have come over, but since like you I 
> don't
> have Gigasampler  I can't tell how accurate the translations really 
> are. In
> addition, the louder samples are outrageously hot, forcing me to turn 
> the
> level down at the EXS program level---making the softer samples almost 
> too
> soft to use. I have no idea what's up with that!
>
> This all seems like a frustrating waste of time, and I'm inclined to 
> suffer
> without the trumpet library until SAM posts their own EXS versions 
> which
> are promised "on the short term."  Of course, even then success will 
> hinge
> on whether or not the original conversions created proper sample sets. 
> Kind
> of makes me wonder why I don't just go out and get GigaStudio. Let us 
> know
> if you meet with success---or failure---in your efforts to translate 
> SAM
> Trumpets, and I'll do the same. Thanks,
>
> Sean McCoy
> Oregon Sound Recording
>
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At 08:06 AM 04/03/2004, I wrote:
>http://www.projectsam.com/index.html
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>Upgrades are from 35 Euro, and include a free lite solo tuba until 4/19.


Sorry, should read "until 4/16." (early morning dyslexia)