EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi Everyone!!! Hope you can help.....

Im running Logic 6 Audio Big Box on OSX.

I am having problems calling up the samples from my Extreme Anolog 
Cd within EXSP24 menu!! 

Do I have to move the contents of the Cd into a certain file???

Thanks to anyone who can help me with this!!!

Bye the way as you may have guessed im new to all of this!! ;o)

Cheers

Dave Taylor.

On a fine day, 02-11-2003, davgodsk wrote:

>I am having problems calling up the samples from my Extreme Anolog
>Cd within EXSP24 menu!!

If you run the installer from the CD, everything should be installed 
in the proper location automatically...

>Do I have to move the contents of the Cd into a certain file???

The instrument files (small ones, ending in .exs in this case) should 
go in the Sampelr Instruments folder in the Logic application folder. 
The samples themselves can reside anywhere on your system.  After 
installation, run the Project Manager, select the exs files, and pick 
the command "fix unresolved references" (or whatever it's exact name 
is) to 'fix' the .exs files so they point at the proper samples.

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> 
wrote:
> On a fine day, 02-11-2003, davgodsk wrote:
> 
> >I am having problems calling up the samples from my Extreme Anolog
> >Cd within EXSP24 menu!!
> 
> If you run the installer from the CD, everything should be 
installed 
> in the proper location automatically...
> 
> >Do I have to move the contents of the Cd into a certain file???
> 
> The instrument files (small ones, ending in .exs in this case) 
should 
> go in the Sampelr Instruments folder in the Logic application 
folder. 
> The samples themselves can reside anywhere on your system.  After 
> installation, run the Project Manager, select the exs files, and 
pick 
> the command "fix unresolved references" (or whatever it's exact 
name 
> is) to 'fix' the .exs files so they point at the proper samples.
> 
> -- 
> Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Thanks Hendrik!!! I'll do what you have said!!!!!

Cheers 

Dave

Hi gang,

Could anyone tell me (in just a few words) what kind of stuff the 
Giga-format does/supports that doesn't get properly (or: at all) 
translated to EXS-instruments by the native EXS-translator?  I need 
this for an article, and need it asap.  Thanks a zillion for any 
replies in advance -- either here or in private mail.

cheers,
HJ
-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Hi Hendrik,
Im sure you've heard this...but just in case.  Even though the EXS has 
the capabilities...It will not translate release triggers and mod wheel 
triggers correctly.  I've been translating Kirk Hunter's Solo Strings 
and Sam Horns Trumpets this week and had to use CDXtract and Translator 
both....they have different strengths... to get the best result

julie


On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 04:12  PM, Hendrik Jan Veenstra 
wrote:

> Hi gang,
>
> Could anyone tell me (in just a few words) what kind of stuff the
> Giga-format does/supports that doesn't get properly (or: at all)
> translated to EXS-instruments by the native EXS-translator?  I need
> this for an article, and need it asap.  Thanks a zillion for any
> replies in advance -- either here or in private mail.
>
> cheers,
> HJ
> --
> Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/
>
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On a fine day, 05-11-2003, Julie Larson wrote:

>Hi Hendrik,
>Im sure you've heard this...

No, I haven't -- that's why I ask :-)

>but just in case.  Even though the EXS has
>the capabilities...It will not translate release triggers and mod wheel
>triggers correctly.  I've been translating Kirk Hunter's Solo Strings
>and Sam Horns Trumpets this week and had to use CDXtract and Translator
>both....they have different strengths... to get the best result

Okay, great, thanks for the info.  If I may use your time & expertise 
a bit longer: in what sense are those not translated correctly?  I 
mean: a release trigger is simply a sample that gets triggered when 
you release the key -- what can possibly go wrong with that? It can't 
get triggered too early or late...  Or do you mean they don't get 
translated at all in some cases, so you lose release triggers?

And to expand on this: are there any parameters/capabilities that are 
_not_ translated (at all), instead of wrongly translated?

Thanks in advance for any further insights you (or anyone else) could provide.

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

I'm sorry Hendrik...I'm going to have to check this...I've done so much 
testing this week I'm doubting my memory as to what exactly happens 
when what screws up.  Let me run a couple of tests and get back to you 
in a couple of hours.

julie


> in what sense are those not translated correctly?  I
> mean: a release trigger is simply a sample that gets triggered when
> you release the key -- what can possibly go wrong with that? It can't
> get triggered too early or late...  Or do you mean they don't get
> translated at all in some cases, so you lose release triggers?
>
> And to expand on this: are there any parameters/capabilities that are
> _not_ translated (at all), instead of wrongly translated?
>


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Hi Hendrik,
First you need to know that I don't have Gigasampler...so I'm making an 
educated guess as to how these programs are supposed to function.

Ok...as far as the release triggers go.

I'm comparing a CDXtract conversion with the internal one.  The 
internal exs converter dropped the release samples and their group 
completely.    Simply didn't convert at all.

On the MW front it appears that sometimes it works sometimes it 
doesn't.  I just did a simple conversion Sam Trumpets Effects- MW 
switch between 2 different "takes" of a cluster.  It converted 
correctly.  But in more complicated setup...take for example one of the 
Kirk Hunter Solo String programs, the converter has trouble.  Kirk 
likes to program articulation switching with the MW.  I prefer Key 
switching myself...but that's what makes the world go round. 
Anyway...he might have 4 different articulations, each with 8 velocity 
layers that he wants to switch between via the MW.  The EXS puts the 4 
different articulations in their own group but has them triggered with 
Key down.  So...they all sound at once. not hard to fix though.

Hope this helps.
julie

On Thursday, November 6, 2003, at 02:15  AM, Hendrik Jan Veenstra wrote:


> in what sense are those not translated correctly?  I
> mean: a release trigger is simply a sample that gets triggered when
> you release the key -- what can possibly go wrong with that? It can't
> get triggered too early or late...  Or do you mean they don't get
> translated at all in some cases, so you lose release triggers?
>
> And to expand on this: are there any parameters/capabilities that are
> _not_ translated (at all), instead of wrongly translated?
>


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Hi Julie,

>Ok...as far as the release triggers go.
>
>[... lots of very useful info ...]
>
>Hope this helps.

Yes, it does!  This is precisely the kind of stuff I was looking for! 
Thanks so much for your time & effort -- I owe you one.  If you ever 
get lost in Holland, I'll buy you a beverage of choice :).  You're 
the best...

cheers,
HJ
-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

If you ever 
> get lost in Holland, I'll buy you a beverage of choice :).  You're 
> the best...
> 
> cheers,
> HJ
> -- 
> Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Julie, don't ever let this man talk you into drinking Chocomel. Some 
addictions are too strong for the likes of man.

Jonesing,

Bob Vandiver

>  I owe you one.  If you ever
> get lost in Holland, I'll buy you a beverage of choice :).  You're
> the best...
>
> cheers,
> HJ
>
Henrik,

As much time and effort as you put into your answers to this group...I 
think we all owe you at least one. So...if you're ever lost in Texas...

glad I could help,

julie



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On Thursday, November 6, 2003, at 01:08  PM, bob_vandiver wrote:
>
> Julie, don't ever let this man talk you into drinking Chocomel. Some
> addictions are too strong for the likes of man.
>
> Jonesing,
>
> Bob Vandiver
>
>
>
Chocomel...

Hmmm...chocolate and what?  Did you get lost in Holland?





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--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Julie Larson <julielarson@m...> 
wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, November 6, 2003, at 01:08  PM, bob_vandiver wrote:
> >
> > Julie, don't ever let this man talk you into drinking Chocomel. 
Some
> > addictions are too strong for the likes of man.
> >
> > Jonesing,
> >
> > Bob Vandiver
> >
> >
> >
> Chocomel...
> 
> Hmmm...chocolate and what?  Did you get lost in Holland?

It is the ultimate chocolate milk. Think Dutch Chocolate and Dutch 
milk, the latter of which tastes rather different from what we have 
over here and is part of Chocomel's taste.

There is a Dutch goods shop in Portland and I get it there when I am 
in town (75 miles away).

The most lost I have ever been in Holland was when I took the train 
from Amsterdam to Hilversum in a vain attempt to find Radio 
Netherlands.

Bob

On a fine day, 06-11-2003, bob_vandiver wrote:

>Julie, don't ever let this man talk you into drinking Chocomel. Some
>addictions are too strong for the likes of man.

LOL!  Yeah...  Oh, you know, Holland and addictive substances... 
We've got quite the reputation... :-)
-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

> LOL!  Yeah...  Oh, you know, Holland and addictive substances... 
> We've got quite the reputation... :-)
> -- 
> Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Julie, Bob is right. This guy is dangerous. I know him. He starts with the 
chocomel-stuff and  before you know you're in his power. That's exactly how 
he scored his present-day wife (and all the ones before....). 

Rob

> > >I am having problems calling up the samples from my Extreme Anolog
> > >Cd within EXSP24 menu!!
> > 
> > If you run the installer from the CD, everything should be 
> installed 
> > in the proper location automatically...
> > 
> > >Do I have to move the contents of the Cd into a certain file???
> > 
> > The instrument files (small ones, ending in .exs in this case) 
> should 
> > go in the Sampelr Instruments folder in the Logic application 
> folder. 
> > The samples themselves can reside anywhere on your system.  After 
> > installation, run the Project Manager, select the exs files, and 
> pick 
> > the command "fix unresolved references" (or whatever it's exact 
> name 
> > is) to 'fix' the .exs files so they point at the proper samples.

I am new to this forum and also new to Logic, having installed the OSX version of the 
Logic Audio Big Box (Oops, I almost typed Bug Box. Sorry!!) a little over a week ago. 
After installing Xtreme Analog I am having the same problem. However I do not 
understand what the "Project Manager" is and how do I get at it. I can find only one 
reference to it in the Getting Started manual that points me to the reference manual. I 
can find no reference to a Project Manager in the reference manual. Please excuse my 
ignorance. What is the "Project Manager" and how do I get to it? And many thanks in 
advance to anyone who can answer this.

I've been doing a little more digging and unless I'm mistaken, Project Manager must 
not be included in Logic Audio (only in Platinum and I'm not sure about Gold). 
Anyway, I tried moving the instrument files to /Users/Shared/EXSPFactorySoundset 
and that solved the problem for me. I hope this helps.