EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hello,

I just joined this list.  I'm excited to learn more about the EXS mkII.  Currently, I'm in 
demo mode. I'm deciding on whether to upgrade form Logic Platinum to Logic Pro.  

I used to own Gigastudio (before I switched to Mac) and am trying to convert some of 
those old files to EXS format.  I've successfully converted the Giga Piano (are the 
additional optimizations to be performed?).  However, there some .gig files that I have 
in the Sampler Instruments that the EXS doesn't  recognize.  

Does anyone understand behaviour?  Is there some header information that the EXS 
looks for?  

Thanks!

Kevin

At 7:15 Uhr +0000 10.02.2004, kevin_ejazz wrote:
>I used to own Gigastudio (before I switched to Mac) and am trying to 
>convert some of
>those old files to EXS format.  I've successfully converted the Giga 
>Piano (are the
>additional optimizations to be performed?).  However, there some 
>.gig files that I have
>in the Sampler Instruments that the EXS doesn't  recognize. 
>
>Does anyone understand behaviour?  Is there some header information 
>that the EXS
>looks for?

Yes, stupid thing: EXS does not accept filenames that are longer than 
(put the number here, I didn't want to figure out what it was 
exactly).

So just make a note of the name, rename it to a shorter one, convert 
it and then use a name that makes sense to you, that the EXS will 
still see.

Also, make sure you always have the .gig extension.

Cheers and good luck
Hans

From: "kevin_ejazz" <kwbowman@...>

>I'm deciding on whether to upgrade form Logic Platinum to Logic Pro.

Not too tough a decision, is it? :) They've set it up so you'd be 
silly not to bite.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

At 11:15 PM 02/09/2004, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I just joined this list.  I'm excited to learn more about the EXS 
>mkII.  Currently, I'm in
>demo mode. I'm deciding on whether to upgrade form Logic Platinum to Logic 
>Pro.

Do it.


>I used to own Gigastudio (before I switched to Mac) and am trying to 
>convert some of
>those old files to EXS format.  I've successfully converted the Giga Piano 
>(are the
>additional optimizations to be performed?).

Every .gig file I've ever tried did convert, but more complex programs that 
include release triggers or modwheel crossfading often don't convert 
properly. Some can be converted better with CDXtract or Translator, but 
some will still require manual tweaking.

In light of that, I propose we set up some sort of bulletin board system, 
possibly through Yahoo or a members' FTP, where we can post successfully 
tweaked converted Giga files. As I've found that Giga conversions through 
the above mentioned programs often create a different set of files than 
that of the EXS conversions, I'd suggest they all start from the EXS's 
internal converter to ensure that all the file names are the same. We could 
also include .txt files with any file re-naming or other specific 
instructions. regarding "how we did it." There's a huge and ever growing 
world of great Gigasampler libraries out there, and not every sample 
developer is jumping on the EXS bandwagon.

Who's game?

In a message dated 2/10/04 5:57:59 PM GMT Standard Time, osr@... 
writes:


> Every .gig file I've ever tried did convert, but more complex programs that 
> 
> include release triggers or modwheel crossfading often don't convert 
> properly. Some can be converted better with CDXtract or Translator, but 
> some will still require manual tweaking.
> 
> In light of that, I propose we set up some sort of bulletin board system, 
> possibly through Yahoo or a members' FTP, where we can post successfully 
> tweaked converted Giga files. As I've found that Giga conversions through 
> the above mentioned programs often create a different set of files than 
> that of the EXS conversions, I'd suggest they all start from the EXS's 
> internal converter to ensure that all the file names are the same. We could 
> also include .txt files with any file re-naming or other specific 
> instructions. regarding "how we did it." There's a huge and ever growing 
> world of great Gigasampler libraries out there, and not every sample 
> developer is jumping on the EXS bandwagon.
> 
> Who's game?
> 

Brilliant, 

We could create/call a new group GIGA2EXS users
I am having myself some translation problems with XSamples, Quantum leap 
brass,
Ultimate Strings... It si true what you said, you do loose some of the 
original tweaking (articulations/Keytrig/Release...)

Gino 


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OK, I'll start. I've gone through all the converted patches in the London 
Orchestral Percussion library and made mostly minor adjustments in volume, 
voice allotment, release times and names to make them all recognizable and 
workable in EXS24.  I turned on one-shot mode for several of the snare 
samples as well.  If anybody has this library and is interested in the 
files, they can be downloaded from:

http://www.oregonsound.com/downloads/LOP%20EXS%20Files/


The initial conversions were done using EXS24's internal converter, and of 
course the .wav files can be placed anywhere. The modwheel release or 
crossfade features mentioned in the sketchy manual for the suspended 
cymbal, crash cymbal, chimes and snare patches weren't there or didn't work 
properly, even when I tried CDXtract and Translator conversions. Several 
instruments are crying out for merged versions, which I'll post when (or 
if) I get to them.

Feel free to contact me on or off list with any questions or comments.

Now I need to tackle Garritan Orchestral Strings, and am hoping someone has 
already perfected that behemoth for EXS! (and is willing to share some files)

Sean McCoy wrote:

>  OK, I'll start. I've gone through all the converted patches in the London 
>  Orchestral Percussion library and made mostly minor adjustments in volume, 
>  voice allotment, release times and names to make them all recognizable and 
>  workable in EXS24.  I turned on one-shot mode for several of the snare 
>  samples as well.  If anybody has this library and is interested in the 
>  files, they can be downloaded from:

>  http://www.oregonsound.com/downloads/LOP%20EXS%20Files/


>  The initial conversions were done using EXS24's internal converter, and of 
>  course the .wav files can be placed anywhere. The modwheel release or 
>  crossfade features mentioned in the sketchy manual for the suspended 
>  cymbal, crash cymbal, chimes and snare patches weren't there or didn't work 
>  properly, even when I tried CDXtract and Translator conversions. Several 
>  instruments are crying out for merged versions, which I'll post when (or 
>  if) I get to them.

>  Feel free to contact me on or off list with any questions or comments.

>  Now I need to tackle Garritan Orchestral Strings, and am hoping someone has 
>  already perfected that behemoth for EXS! (and is willing to share some files)



Hello Sean

Thanks for your this,  but;


When I download , I only get a http page downloaded , no esx lies or wav

I am not a mac user - pc 


Great  Hendrikus Godvliet    the Netherlands

At 11:51 PM 02/18/2004, you wrote:
> >  http://www.oregonsound.com/downloads/LOP%20EXS%20Files/
>
>
>Hello Sean
>
>Thanks for your this,  but;
>
>
>When I download , I only get a http page downloaded , no esx lies or wav
>
>I am not a mac user - pc
>
>
>Great  Hendrikus Godvliet    the Netherlands

Sorry, Hendrikus, I should have better explained the directory structure. 
The files are in individual subdirectories, and if you're downloading using 
a browser you'll have to enter the subdirectories and download the exs 
files one by one. Small files, but a pain nevertheless. I'm no website 
expert, but if someone can tell me how to make this simpler for browser 
users I'm open to suggestion.

If you happen to have an FTP program, you can go to the site and drag the 
LOP EXS Files folder over in one quick shot. Here are the parameters:

oregonsound.com
user id is      guest
password is  osr1234

>Sorry, Hendrikus, I should have better explained the directory structure. 
  >The files are in individual subdirectories, and if you're downloading using 
  >a browser you'll have to enter the subdirectories and download the exs 
  >files one by one. Small files, but a pain nevertheless. I'm no website 
  >expert, but if someone can tell me how to make this simpler for browser 
  >users I'm open to suggestion.

  >If you happen to have an FTP program, you can go to the site and drag the 
 > LOP EXS Files folder over in one quick shot. Here are the parameters:

Hello Sean

I tride to make contact with 


oregonsound.com
user id is      guest
password is  osr1234       

But I think I need a -  ftp profile name and a ftp hostname/address  


For me it,s also a bit new stuf,  but I am like to get some samples from your, so i try to do my best to cornect with you.


Hendrikus Godvliet

Sorry Sean

  I 've tried again  http://www.oregonsound.com/downloads/LOP%20EXS%20Files/ and indeed the files are in individual subdirectories, but - I don't gett the wave file.
  Or do I misunderstood that there are only exs files and no wave files ????
  Great  Hendrikus 





  And indeed 
  >
  >Hello Sean
  >
  >Thanks for your this,  but;
  >
  >
  >When I download , I only get a http page downloaded , no esx lies or wav
  >
  >I am not a mac user - pc
  >
  >
  >Great  Hendrikus Godvliet    the Netherlands

  Sorry, Hendrikus, I should have better explained the directory structure. 
  The files are in individual subdirectories, and if you're downloading using 
  a browser you'll have to enter the subdirectories and download the exs 
  files one by one. Small files, but a pain nevertheless. I'm no website 
  expert, but if someone can tell me how to make this simpler for browser 
  users I'm open to suggestion.

  If you happen to have an FTP program, you can go to the site and drag the 
  LOP EXS Files folder over in one quick shot. Here are the parameters:

  oregonsound.com
  user id is      guest
  password is  osr1234