EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

I'm using EXSP24 with Digital Performer 3.11, OS
9.2.2, and it will not repsond to cc's 7 or 10. Is
this common, or specific to my setup?

Thanks,

Robert

On a fine day, 04-03-2004, Anthropy wrote:

>I'm using EXSP24 with Digital Performer 3.11, OS
>9.2.2, and it will not repsond to cc's 7 or 10. Is
>this common, or specific to my setup?

That's a Logic problem.  Logic 'steals' CC7 and 10 for control of the 
mixer strip (volume & pan).  That's ridiculous, since all other 
parameters (both of the mixer strip and of plug-ins) are controlled 
by Fader Events *except* volume and pan which still use controllers. 
But, ridiculous as it, is, that's how it is...

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Thanks Hendrik,
That's nutty, IMO. I heard back from ApplEmagic
regarding this, and they said as much. 

The odd thing is, NONE of the "supported" controllers
listed in the EXSP manual have any effect at all. I'm
using EXSP with Digital Performer, and all my other
softsynths (and hardsynths) respond to any controller
they support. Could it be a VST Shell problem? Any DP
users out there?

Robert

> 
> Message: 1
>    Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:11:54 +0100
>    From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
> Subject: Re: Newbie - cc 7/10 not responding
> 
> On a fine day, 04-03-2004, Anthropy wrote:
> 
> >I'm using EXSP24 with Digital Performer 3.11, OS
> >9.2.2, and it will not repsond to cc's 7 or 10. Is
> >this common, or specific to my setup?
> 
> That's a Logic problem.  Logic 'steals' CC7 and 10
> for control of the 
> mixer strip (volume & pan).  That's ridiculous,
> since all other 
> parameters (both of the mixer strip and of plug-ins)
> are controlled 
> by Fader Events *except* volume and pan which still
> use controllers. 
> But, ridiculous as it, is, that's how it is...
> 
> -- 
> Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/
> 
>

On a fine day, 06-03-2004, Anthropy wrote:

>  > >I'm using EXSP24 with Digital Performer 3.11, OS
>  > >9.2.2, and it will not repsond to cc's 7 or 10. Is
>  > >this common, or specific to my setup?
>  >
>  > That's a Logic problem.  Logic 'steals' CC7 and 10 for control of the mixer
>  > strip (volume & pan).  That's ridiculous, since all other parameters (both
>  > of the mixer strip and of plug-ins) are controlled by Fader Events *except*
>  > volume and pan which still use controllers.
>  > But, ridiculous as it, is, that's how it is...
>
>Thanks Hendrik,
>That's nutty, IMO. I heard back from ApplEmagic
>regarding this, and they said as much.

Hmm... I only now see that you say you're using Performer, so my 
reply (which deals with a Logic-specific problem which has nothing to 
do with the EXSP as such) didn't make any sense at all...  Sorry 
about that...

>The odd thing is, NONE of the "supported" controllers
>listed in the EXSP manual have any effect at all.

Hmm... weird.  I would try to send _every_ possible controller into 
the EXSP, to see if you can get any of the knobs moving.  That's 
potentially 128 controllers to try out -- a bit of work, but often 
such 'brute force' is the only way to figure out what's going on. 
Maybe all controllers need some offset or something -- i.e. instead 
of controller 10-20 it might need controller 74-84 or something like 
that...

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/