EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Sean McCoy wrote

> I know there are a few of you out there using Garritan strings in EXS, and 
> I'm wondering if anyone has figured out how to apply the legato functions 
> to recorded sequences. With the Maestro Tools environment activated, the 
> sustain pedal legato works great for live playing, but the sustain pedal 
> messages get sucked up somewhere and don't make it into the recorded 
> sequences.


The Maestro tools uses the Sustain pedal to switch on the legato mode where with
the correct instrument loaded with use the correct samples to create the legato
effect. Once the sequence is recorded you will find additional notes recorded
several octaves higher (sometimes lower) which trigger a second bank of samples
to fill the gap between the standard samples. The Sustain pedal simply switches
the legato mode to the "ON" state and the sustain pedal message do get digested
in maestro tools never to appear again. If they  have successfully  triggered
the sample switches they have done their job.

If you load a "LEG" instrument and open the edit window and play  - with the
Maestro Tools active and the SUSTAIN PEDAL down for the whole of the passage
that has to be legato - you can see the switch of samples in the keyboard
display.

Stuart Warren
Sandpiper Music
Cumbria UK

At 11:50 AM 03/31/2004, you wrote:
>  Sean McCoy wrote
>
> > I know there are a few of you out there using Garritan strings in EXS, and
> > I'm wondering if anyone has figured out how to apply the legato functions
> > to recorded sequences. With the Maestro Tools environment activated, the
> > sustain pedal legato works great for live playing, but the sustain pedal
> > messages get sucked up somewhere and don't make it into the recorded
> > sequences.
>
>
>The Maestro tools uses the Sustain pedal to switch on the legato mode 
>where with
>the correct instrument loaded with use the correct samples to create the 
>legato
>effect. Once the sequence is recorded you will find additional notes recorded
>several octaves higher (sometimes lower) which trigger a second bank of 
>samples
>to fill the gap between the standard samples. The Sustain pedal simply 
>switches
>the legato mode to the "ON" state and the sustain pedal message do get 
>digested
>in maestro tools never to appear again. If they  have successfully  triggered
>the sample switches they have done their job.
>
>If you load a "LEG" instrument and open the edit window and play  - with the
>Maestro Tools active and the SUSTAIN PEDAL down for the whole of the passage
>that has to be legato - you can see the switch of samples in the keyboard
>display.
>
>Stuart Warren
>Sandpiper Music
>Cumbria UK

Stuart-

Thank you, thank you, thank you! This actually explains a lot about how 
Maestro Tools works in general. I was worried about the fact that when 
legato mode is active, everything Logic receives becomes mono. Now it's 
clear that Maestro Tools affects what is recorded and can be turned off for 
playback. How I could have missed the extra samples recorded in the 
sequence is fairly embarrassing, but unfortunately not the first time I've 
missed something as obvious. Thanks again.

Sean McCoy
Oregon Sound Recording

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Sean McCoy <osr@j...> wrote:
> 
> Stuart-
> 
> Thank you, thank you, thank you! This actually explains a lot about
how 
> Maestro Tools works in general.


I am currently working my way through GOS and carrying out the  tasks
listed below. 
If anyone thinks I have got my ideas wrong than please write
correcting my 
assumptions.

1. Removing WARM instruments. These can simply be reproduced by using
a channel eq.

2. Renaming Instruments to create shorter names as there is a limit
in EXS and excessively long names get their ends turned to BinHex?

3. Not sure about this one since I'm now only using OSX and if I
revert to OS9 (other than by running classic) some of my drives which
contain files 
with long names may suffer the same fate if I start in OS9 and open a
folder. Oh the
point here is that I think in OS9 (or could it earlier versions of
Logic) the conversion
of gig files results in sets of instrument which start with their
name whereas now I am
getting numbered instruments from 00 onwards. This means that where
long names 
aretruncated their is less confusion where the names after the number
appear to be 
thesame. This is particually useful as I am trashing all instruments
which end ALT 88
and just relying on the ALT version but you have to load then to
check which is which.

4. I am setting all EXP instruments correctly so they switch samples
from the mod wheel and grouping them in a separate sub folder

5. After I have completed this rather mamoth task I will backup all
GOS instruments to DVD.

6. If anyone thinks it would be useful to have a copy of these edited
instruments write to me for further details. Note sample will need
re-referencing in
EXS manager.


Stuart Warren
Sandpiper Music
Cumbria UK

Hi GOS users!

I've just finished going through the GOS Giga library and tweaking it for 
EXS. It's not a 100% complete set, but pretty close. Nearly all the EXP 
instruments work well now, but I wasn't happy with any of the instruments 
with release samples and deleted them (along with all the WARM patches). 
All the work was done using EXS's Giga import in OS9, so I've modified all 
the instrument names that were truncated during import.

I've spoken to Gary Garritan about it, and have his ok to make the set 
available to all EXS users. However, since I know there are several of you 
who have done similar work with the set, and since I ran into a number of 
problematic patches, I'd like to get together with you with the idea of 
pooling our EXS instrument sets to take advantage of everyone's efforts.

Anyone who's interested can post here or email me privately to discuss 
specifics. If I don't hear from anybody in the next few days, I'll just 
post my set to my FTP and put a link here.

Sean McCoy
Oregon Sound Recording

Is anyone aware of a similar project to convert the GPO to EXS format?

Brian
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PowerMac G4 933MHz
OS X 10.3.4
1 GB RAM
MOTU 828mkII
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   - CueMix v1.4

At 05:03 AM 07/18/2004, you wrote:
>Is anyone aware of a similar project to convert the GPO to EXS format?

I don't have GPO, but my understanding is that inclusive sets like GPO 
cannot be converted since the samples are in a proprietary format.

Wow!  cant wait to try these!

Jean-pierre Brie
http://loreille.com



--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Sean McCoy <osr@j...> wrote:

> Hi GOS users!
> 
> I've just finished going through the GOS Giga library and tweaking it for 
> EXS. It's not a 100% complete set, but pretty close. Nearly all the EXP 
> instruments work well now, but I wasn't happy with any of the instruments 
> with release samples and deleted them (along with all the WARM patches). 
> All the work was done using EXS's Giga import in OS9, so I've modified all 
> the instrument names that were truncated during import.
> 
> I've spoken to Gary Garritan about it, and have his ok to make the set 
> available to all EXS users. However, since I know there are several of you 
> who have done similar work with the set, and since I ran into a number of 
> problematic patches, I'd like to get together with you with the idea of 
> pooling our EXS instrument sets to take advantage of everyone's efforts.
> 
> Anyone who's interested can post here or email me privately to discuss 
> specifics. If I don't hear from anybody in the next few days, I'll just 
> post my set to my FTP and put a link here.
> 
> Sean McCoy
> Oregon Sound Recording