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Re: [EXS] EXS WISH! (was: EXS24 in live theater application)

Re: [EXS] EXS WISH! (was: EXS24 in live theater application)

2004-07-26 by Sascha Franck

Mac Duff wrote:
> The discussion about wishing for features more amenable to live use has
> prompted me to express my wish that the audio instrument main windows WERE
> NOT FLOATING WINDOWS!!!!
>
> I got dual monitors, partially for this reason, and yet it is STILL a pain
> in the arse!

Can you elaborate?
I really don't understand what's so wrong about it.

Apart from that, on LAW you can open instrument windows as non floating ones
when holding down CTRL while selecting them (I wouldn't know what to use
this for though).

Regards,
Sascha

Re: [EXS] EXS WISH! (was: EXS24 in live theater application)

2004-07-26 by Mac Duff

On 7/26/04 6:33 PM, "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...> wrote:

> Can you elaborate?
> I really don't understand what's so wrong about it.

You don't think this is a hassle?? Am I the only dude who has ever
complained about this?

Well, the point is that if you have a floating instrument window open, it is
CONSTANTLY blocking other windows behind it. So, you have to close the
window when you're done by aiming for its teeny weenie close button. You
cannot use Command-W on a floating window. That's a pain. As a matter of
fact, not only should the window not float, but it would be very convenient
if you could link this window to whatever instrument you select via the
Arrange window so the contents updates, automatically. As it is now, if
you're going from your pizz strings patch to your arco strings, you have to
double-click the arco strings entry in the track's mixer strip to bring up
its interface -- and if you didn't close the pizz window beforehand, well
now you have TWO floating windows clogging up the works!

Very clumsy.

Now, you can at least specify the position of the floating window and lock
the screenset so that it opens in the same spot, but that doesn't solve the
problem of its ever-present floatation. Emagic allows you to specify a
floating or non-floating movie window. We need such an option for the
instrument UI. I realize the fact that the instrument window floats because
it is a plug-in, but surely there must be a way to change how plugins work.
They literally feel "tacked on" because of this. I'd like to think that,
given how much instrument and effect plugins are used these days, that it's
time to revamp the interface... IMHO at least :)

There are other big shortcomings with audio instrument UI besides this, but
to me this is a biggie.

Re: [EXS] EXS WISH! (was: EXS24 in live theater application)

2004-07-27 by Hans Hafner

At 0:33 Uhr +0200 27.07.2004, Sascha Franck wrote:
>Mac Duff wrote:
>>  The discussion about wishing for features more amenable to live use has
>>  prompted me to express my wish that the audio instrument main windows WERE
>>  NOT FLOATING WINDOWS!!!!
>>
>>  I got dual monitors, partially for this reason, and yet it is STILL a pain
>  > in the arse!
>
>Apart from that, on LAW you can open instrument windows as non floating ones
>when holding down CTRL while selecting them (I wouldn't know what to use
>this for though).

and on the mac this is done with command double-clicking the plug-in 
slot if I'm not mistaken.

Enjoy that feature you asked for!
Hans

Re: [EXS] EXS WISH! (was: EXS24 in live theater application)

2004-07-27 by Mac Duff

On 7/26/04 9:26 PM, "Hans Hafner" <hanshafner@...> wrote:

> and on the mac this is done with command double-clicking the plug-in
> slot if I'm not mistaken.
> 
> Enjoy that feature you asked for!


DENIED! :-(

It doesn't work in OS X, if it worked in OS 9 at all. Are you sure of this
command, Hans?

MacDuff

Re: [EXS] EXS WISH! (was: EXS24 in live theater application)

2004-07-27 by Matt Jones

Try "Command + option" double clicking.

Matt

on 27/7/04 11:50 AM, Mac Duff at dropzone@... wrote:
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> On 7/26/04 9:26 PM, "Hans Hafner" <hanshafner@...> wrote:
> 
>> and on the mac this is done with command double-clicking the plug-in
>> slot if I'm not mistaken.
>> 
>> Enjoy that feature you asked for!
> 
> 
> DENIED! :-(
> 
> It doesn't work in OS X, if it worked in OS 9 at all. Are you sure of this
> command, Hans?
> 
> MacDuff

Re: [EXS] EXS WISH! (was: EXS24 in live theater application)

2004-07-27 by Mac Duff

On 7/26/04 10:09 PM, "Matt Jones" <simmphonic@...> wrote:

> Try "Command + option" double clicking.

That did it! THANK YOU. Now, show me how to make the audio instrument UI
reflect selecting different instruments associated with Arrange window
tracks (in other words, "linking" in logic-speak like other windows do) and
I'll have died and gone to heaven. There is a link button on the audio
instrument's interface, but it doesn't seem to work. Am I missing something
here as well?

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