EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hello.  I have a couple of Eric Persing's Groove Control discs from 
Spectrasonics.  Up to now, I've been using the Akai/E-mu edition on E-
mu samplers.  Now that I have Logic and EXS, I'd like to convert them 
over.

Would I use the options button and convert all of the Akai sample 
files?  And all the MIDI files?  Naturally, I want the ability to 
control the tempo, but I've never done it with the Akai version (let 
alone EXS) and I know it doesn't work quite the way the E-mu version 
does.

Any help would be highly appreciated...please and thank-you.

>Hello.  I have a couple of Eric Persing's Groove Control discs from
>Spectrasonics.  Up to now, I've been using the Akai/E-mu edition on E-
>mu samplers.  Now that I have Logic and EXS, I'd like to convert them
>over.
>
>Would I use the options button and convert all of the Akai sample
>files?  And all the MIDI files?  Naturally, I want the ability to
>control the tempo, but I've never done it with the Akai version (let
>alone EXS) and I know it doesn't work quite the way the E-mu version
>does.
>
>Any help would be highly appreciated...please and thank-you.

You'll almost certainly get better results by using either CDxtract 
or Translator. Both apps specialise in conversions to and from 
different formats.

http://www.cdxtract.com/home.php
http://www.chickensys.com/

Regards - Colin

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Colin Shapiro wrote:
> You'll almost certainly get better results by using either CDxtract
> or Translator. Both apps specialise in conversions to and from
> different formats.

I think that Spectrasonics GC series for AKAI should be relatively simple
patches (correct me if I'm wrong, I don't own any of them) - sliced up beats
with a MIDI file to "drive" them that is.
In that case the EXS should do a rather useful job - it's only failing with
more complexed conversions, especially when converting complete CDs with all
sorts of different programs (some which had to be merged, some which better
wouldn't be merged...).

- Sascha

I for one would rather use Spectrasonics Stylus RMX and Sage expanders 
than convert the GC stuff to EXS. Just an opinion though.

Best,

Andy

On Feb 14, 2005, at 1:45 AM, Sascha Franck wrote:

> I think that Spectrasonics GC series for AKAI should be relatively 
> simple
> patches (correct me if I'm wrong, I don't own any of them) - sliced up 
> beats
> with a MIDI file to "drive" them that is.
> In that case the EXS should do a rather useful job - it's only failing 
> with
> more complexed conversions, especially when converting complete CDs 
> with all
> sorts of different programs (some which had to be merged, some which 
> better
> wouldn't be merged...).
>
> - Sascha

Andy Hardwake wrote:
> I for one would rather use Spectrasonics Stylus RMX and Sage expanders 
> than convert the GC stuff to EXS. Just an opinion though.

Well, and a matter of your income as well I'd say...

- Sascha

Andy Hardwake [mailto:andyhardwake@...] 

>I for one would rather use Spectrasonics Stylus 
>RMX and Sage expanders than convert the GC 
>stuff to EXS. Just an opinion though.

I absolutely agree. RMX is my core drum engine with several imported GC
libraries. So much easier to prelisten and import in Logic compared to
EXS. It's an incredible smooth operation in Logic 5.5.1 Win. Well worth
the pennies as a time saver and compositional tool.

Herbert Boland

www.herbertboland.nl .:. Composer and Sound Designer .:.
www.zepmusic.com  .:. Open Songwriters Network .:.

I wrote:

>> I for one would rather use Spectrasonics Stylus RMX and Sage expanders
>> than convert the GC stuff to EXS. Just an opinion though.

On Feb 14, 2005, at 4:38 AM, Sascha Franck responded:

> Well, and a matter of your income as well I'd say...

IMMHO it's definitely worth the small price they're asking.

Best,

Andy

Andy Hardwake [mailto:andyhardwake@...] :

>I for one would rather use Spectrasonics Stylus
>RMX and Sage expanders than convert the GC 
>stuff to EXS. Just an opinion though.

I absolutely agree. RMX is my core drum engine with several imported GC
libraries. It's an incredible smooth operation in Logic 5.5.1 Win. Well
worth the pennies as a time saver and compositional tool.


Herbert Boland
www.herbertboland.nl .:. Composer and Sound Designer .:.
www.zepmusic.com  .:. Open Songwriters Network .:.

Missed the start of this, but just went through the same thing myself 
when I upgraded to a new machine.

The EXS will pull over the audio files okay, but not the .exs mappings, 
which is required to actually use the groove control function. I 
haven't used CDxtract, but Translator deals with easily.

BTW, for each (set of) files, there are 2 different mappings, a -GC 
version and a non-GC version. If you just ask the program to convert 
the whole disc, you'll end up with double the number of .exs files (ie: 
Sookie 1, and Sookie 1 -GC), considering there are anywhere from 4-10 
.exs mappings for each collection for groove, that will create a whole 
lot of extra files. It takes longer to do manually, but I opted to do 
it that way and only convert the GC versions.

>> Hello.  I have a couple of Eric Persing's Groove Control discs from
>> Spectrasonics.  Up to now, I've been using the Akai/E-mu edition on E-
>> mu samplers.  Now that I have Logic and EXS, I'd like to convert them
>> over.
>>
>> Would I use the options button and convert all of the Akai sample
>> files?  And all the MIDI files?  Naturally, I want the ability to
>> control the tempo, but I've never done it with the Akai version (let
>> alone EXS) and I know it doesn't work quite the way the E-mu version
>> does.
>>
>> Any help would be highly appreciated...please and thank-you.
>
> You'll almost certainly get better results by using either CDxtract
> or Translator. Both apps specialise in conversions to and from
> different formats.
>
> http://www.cdxtract.com/home.php
> http://www.chickensys.com/
>
> Regards - Colin


Regards,
	Shane

Shane Fawkes
Director of Music
Walnut Grove Sec. School
Langley, B.C.
Canada

sfawkes@...

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Shane Fawkes <sfawkes@s...> wrote:
> Missed the start of this, but just went through the same thing 
myself 
> when I upgraded to a new machine.
> 
> The EXS will pull over the audio files okay, but not the .exs 
mappings, 
> which is required to actually use the groove control function. I 
> haven't used CDxtract, but Translator deals with easily.
> 
> BTW, for each (set of) files, there are 2 different mappings, a -GC 
> version and a non-GC version. If you just ask the program to 
convert 
> the whole disc, you'll end up with double the number of .exs files 
(ie: 
> Sookie 1, and Sookie 1 -GC), considering there are anywhere from 4-
10 
> .exs mappings for each collection for groove, that will create a 
whole 
> lot of extra files. It takes longer to do manually, but I opted to 
do 
> it that way and only convert the GC versions.
> 
> >> Hello.  I have a couple of Eric Persing's Groove Control discs 
from
> >> Spectrasonics.  Up to now, I've been using the Akai/E-mu edition 
on E-
> >> mu samplers.  Now that I have Logic and EXS, I'd like to convert 
them
> >> over.
> >>
> >> Would I use the options button and convert all of the Akai sample
> >> files?  And all the MIDI files?  Naturally, I want the ability to
> >> control the tempo, but I've never done it with the Akai version 
(let
> >> alone EXS) and I know it doesn't work quite the way the E-mu 
version
> >> does.
> >>
> >> Any help would be highly appreciated...please and thank-you.
> >
> > You'll almost certainly get better results by using either 
CDxtract
> > or Translator. Both apps specialise in conversions to and from
> > different formats.
> >
> > http://www.cdxtract.com/home.php
> > http://www.chickensys.com/
> >
> > Regards - Colin
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 	Shane
> 
> Shane Fawkes
> Director of Music
> Walnut Grove Sec. School
> Langley, B.C.
> Canada
> 
> sfawkes@s...

Shane:
That makes perfect sense...I would only want to bring over the GC 
mappings.  On the subject of CDXtract, anybody know if they're still 
in business?  I haven't been able to get my OSX version to work when 
trying to translate Garritan Strings, and I can't get a response from 
their support dept.

And thanks for the other responses on the conversions too...good 
comments.

-Bob