EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Message posted by Hector Rios <hcrios@...>:

My gear:
Apple Power Book 1.25 GHz, 1.5GB RAM, Logic Pro 6 with EXS24mkII


Hello to all,

I received and installed yesterday a PMI Piano (Steinway D, 5.2GB) which
sound incredibly beautiful and dinamic, when PLAYING IT SLOWLY. The problem
is that apparently the Power Book or the EXS can't handle this size of
instrument easily. When playing the piano normally, you have to almost
literally wait until the RAM reads the information of each note or chord you
are playing, but you cannot play smoothly. So, it's not practical to use
this piano with the computer/sampler configuration that I have. The same
problem happened to me earlier with a set of 500MB pianos (10 times
lighter!: the iPianos). They are also from PMI, made for Apple's Garage Band
but can be used in the EXS sampler, and are working perfectly smooth in
Garage Band (!) but not in the EXS without trouble.

Although this Steinway D piano is not small (5GB), what about if I would
like to install bigger pianos of 14GB or 15GB, or even the Ivory (40GB!); it
would be impossible. Anyway, I just want to be able to play my 5GB piano
SMOOTHLY and in peace. Could it be possible?

I would not like to know that I could only play smaller and "cheapy" pianos
in my EXS super sampler because I don't have a G5 or a newer Mac Book Pro
with a lot RAM (anyway the top capacity of RAM in my Power Book is 2GB). As
a question, people with older systems can't play these kind of sampled
instruments? I would like to know from other musicians having similar
computer and software configuration, what happened to them when playing
their BIG pianos. Please advise me.

Thank you in advance.

Hector

--- Hector Rios <forums@...> wrote:

> Message posted by Hector Rios <hcrios@...>:
> 
> My gear:
> Apple Power Book 1.25 GHz, 1.5GB RAM, Logic Pro 6
> with EXS24mkII
> 
> 
> Hello to all,
> 
> I received and installed yesterday a PMI Piano
> (Steinway D, 5.2GB) which
> sound incredibly beautiful and dinamic, when PLAYING
> IT SLOWLY. The problem
> is that apparently the Power Book or the EXS can't
> handle this size of
> instrument easily. When playing the piano normally,
> you have to almost
> literally wait until the RAM reads the information
> of each note or chord you
> are playing, but you cannot play smoothly. So, it's
> not practical to use
> this piano with the computer/sampler configuration
> that I have. The same
> problem happened to me earlier with a set of 500MB
> pianos (10 times
> lighter!: the iPianos). They are also from PMI, made
> for Apple's Garage Band
> but can be used in the EXS sampler, and are working
> perfectly smooth in
> Garage Band (!) but not in the EXS without trouble.
>
Are you using the 24 bit version? PMI usually has a 16
and a 24 and the 16 might be better for your setup.
Can the PB take more RAM? If so max it out. Best
investment you can make.
Also, under Options on the EXS try checking (or
unchecking the Virtual Memory.
JP

I don't know how fast your internal drive is, but you might want to consider
a fast external FW drive for your samples if you're using the disk streaming
option.  Hey, and maxing out the RAM is always a good idea.

Regards,
Lenny

On 06/10/2006, at 4: 13, Hector Rios wrote:

> Message posted by Hector Rios <hcrios@...>:
>
> My gear:
> Apple Power Book 1.25 GHz, 1.5GB RAM, Logic Pro 6 with EXS24mkII
>
>
> Hello to all,
>
> I received and installed yesterday a PMI Piano (Steinway D, 5.2GB)  
> which
> sound incredibly beautiful and dinamic, when PLAYING IT SLOWLY. The  
> problem
> is that apparently the Power Book or the EXS can't handle this size of
> instrument easily. When playing the piano normally, you have to almost
> literally wait until the RAM reads the information of each note or  
> chord you
> are playing, but you cannot play smoothly. So, it's not practical  
> to use
> this piano with the computer/sampler configuration that I have. The  
> same
> problem happened to me earlier with a set of 500MB pianos (10 times
> lighter!: the iPianos). They are also from PMI, made for Apple's  
> Garage Band
> but can be used in the EXS sampler, and are working perfectly  
> smooth in
> Garage Band (!) but not in the EXS without trouble.
>
> Although this Steinway D piano is not small (5GB), what about if I  
> would
> like to install bigger pianos of 14GB or 15GB, or even the Ivory  
> (40GB!); it
> would be impossible. Anyway, I just want to be able to play my 5GB  
> piano
> SMOOTHLY and in peace. Could it be possible?
>
> I would not like to know that I could only play smaller and  
> "cheapy" pianos
> in my EXS super sampler because I don't have a G5 or a newer Mac  
> Book Pro
> with a lot RAM (anyway the top capacity of RAM in my Power Book is  
> 2GB). As
> a question, people with older systems can't play these kind of sampled
> instruments? I would like to know from other musicians having similar
> computer and software configuration, what happened to them when  
> playing
> their BIG pianos. Please advise me.
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Hector


I had this problem with the Old Lady also from PMI.
It was fixed by opening the preset up in the EXS editor selecting all  
zones and using "update selected zones info from audio file". Then  
saving. To test if this has worked you must unload and reload.  
Everything has been fine since then.

You definitely need to have virtual memory on in the EXS.

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Tom